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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.08 04:57:00 -
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So, for fun I decided to look into the Burst AR. Yeah, this gun is definitely going to be the next FOTM over the SCR. It pretty much is slightly worse at everything than the previous iteration of the TAR was, except its even better CQ. Teams using this will likely do even better since its burst will be easier to group kill those pesky speed tankers.
The hip fire is amazing. Range is better than everything but the tar. Damage per burst is like 100 without any mods or skills.
I used the TAR day one of uprising because it was obvious how good it was. So mark my words, BAR is next. Ive specced into SCR with my main, so I wont be using it any time soon but I predict its the next big thing. |
GRIM GEAR
The Enclave Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:03:00 -
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No! I am pretty sure Nova Knives trump the burst assault rife in close combat of course . I might take your advice and take the BAR for a test. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
261
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:30:00 -
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Except the damage per bullet is less than the normal AR and the normal AR outfires it stats on paper be damned, and hit detection is still screwed up so the entire burst wont hit an enemy and some other problems that make it next to useless
If its supposed to be a placeholder for the combat rifle I feel bad for the minmatar |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
290
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:45:00 -
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Have you used it recently? Because I have on my alts and it feels a ton like the TAR pre-nerf with less rnage and easier to hit speed tankers.
The burst pretty much acts like a single shot with how fast you can fire consecutive bursts. The proto burst has a higher DPS than the Duvual Tact. |
Callidus Vanus
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 06:06:00 -
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I used the Allotek burst a lot during chromosome because it was really good and fun as hell to use. But i dont know if its because CCP changed the gun or its just the new scope but it feels like it lost something in uprising. |
Aoena Rays
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:00:00 -
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Burst AR is pretty damn well balanced right now, no need to do anything to it :) |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
70
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:06:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Except the damage per bullet is less than the normal AR and the normal AR outfires it stats on paper be damned, and hit detection is still screwed up so the entire burst wont hit an enemy and some other problems that make it next to useless
If its supposed to be a placeholder for the combat rifle I feel bad for the minmatar
It's no more of a "placeholder" for the combat rifle then the TAR was a "placeholder" for the scrambler rifle. When the combat rifle releases the burst AR will still exist and the two will operate slightly different, similar to the TAR and Scrambler rifle. |
Ignatius Crumwald
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
551
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:24:00 -
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Lol at people having trouble hitting "speed tankers".
The strafe speed on scouts is a joke. |
EVEry DUSTOID
United Planetary Soldiers
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:29:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Burst AR is pretty damn well balanced right now, no need to do anything to it :)
burst AR is trash, simply because the refire rate is awful... |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
613
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Posted - 2013.06.08 10:49:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:Lol at people having trouble hitting "speed tankers".
The strafe speed on scouts is a joke.
Actually this is what the tar is really good at. Which was the problem before the nerf, it was too good at killing scouts. |
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:17:00 -
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When you say the retire rate is terrible are you using ds3 or mouse? Cause I can't see firing much quicker on a ds3. As for speed tankers I mean prot kin cat stacked sprinters. |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
203
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:27:00 -
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I used the bar when uprising hit, its a good rifle and it has its place, but simple human error balances it out.
Just miss the first or 2nd burst and you will know what I'm taking about. |
hows mydriving whocares
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:31:00 -
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im going to start an anti nerf movement
NO MORE NERFS, WE WANT BUFFS |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
290
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Posted - 2013.06.08 16:26:00 -
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This isnt a "nerf" thread. Im simply saying I predict this gun to soon rise to the top of the kill feed. It provides decent range and good CQ. Since the TAR has been removed from the jack of all trades role, I think this will replace it. Which is probably fine since it is clearly inferior at range to the TAR and not as dominant as the TAR at mid. I do think its better than the TAR cq though cause the burst allows for some room for hit detection issues and still and 1 or 2 shots per burst. |
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