Look at this, middle right. They're coming.

I would be fine with your torque-y MAV, slower than a LAV, as long as it is quite a bit faster than a tank. With my suggestion, you would almost never get to use the top speed anyway.

LAVs attempting to loiter against opposition will be short lived. When loitering, dropships flying high are swarm/forge bait and low flying dropships are AV nade bait. Tanks are a little different in that the threat IS the vehicle and its presence must be maintained for it to be effective.

MAVs are different in that the threatening part of the platform is the infantry that can be deployed while the MAV retreats to regenerate while the troops wreak havoc. A returning MAV has the opportunity to get roadkills upon entry, achieve kills with AP blasters while retrieving wounded troops, and then get more roadkills en route to the next objective all while presumably healing the heavies who remain impervious to direct damage.

Not saying they're not something I'd love to see, just worried that OP makes them sound a lot like an LAV with no speed nerf, vastly increased armor, improved DPS, enough CPU/PG to host a mobile CRU, and the ability to quickly bust through enemy lines and drop an entire squad without having to stay in the area until egress is requested.

We'll just have to wait for the MAV BPO to be released so everyone can try them out....repeatedly!!!

well even tanks can roadkill ive done it several times so if the MAV cant even move fast enough to roadkill then it wont be fast enough for the battlefield or for troop transport

With the MAV's I would be more then happy to have it have the following attributes

1. Medium speed with massive torque for going up hills with ease
2. No real defenses other then either armor high or shield high
3. speed is set low enough that using it as a murder taxi isn't possible
4. Two equipment slots to allow it to serve a vital function. It should be a force multiplier not a wrecking ball
5. price should be between LAV's and tanks.
6. give it a badass big rig air horn... you know, just to be cool

If it takes a long time to get to top speed, and it will flip on its side if it hits a rock or makes a sharp turn at high speed, the max speed is completely irrelevant! I can think of maybe two maps that have long straight paved roads down the side of the map that would allow it to get to top speed, but those roads are not near any objectives. I am just saying to make it drive like a truck. HasnGÇÖt anyone driven a truck before? Have you guys at least tried taking a sharp turn in a mini van? The MAV will be heavy and have a much higher center of gravity than a HAV.

As far as a MAVGÇÖs effective health, well right now I can solo any HAV currently in the game with my Proto Swarm Launcher, if I have cover, time, and ammo. If the MAV does not have enough health, then it is just 6 easy kills. I canGÇÖt solo a Dropship if it bugs out after my first swarms hit it. I can only kill Dropships that stick around. A well tanked LAV may get away from me due to its fast acceleration, speed and agility. But a MAV wonGÇÖt have the acceleration, or the agility/turning radius to bug out quickly. If it does not have enough health it will be a sitting duck.

You know how sweet it is to blow up a LAV and get 3 kills? Imagine getting 6 kills? At least in a Dropship they get time to bail, so sometimes I only get an assist on the Dropship and no kills. I am trying to find a balance to make the MAV effective as a troop carrier, because it would make it easier to keep a squad together, but I am approaching it from the perspectives of someone who spends a lot of time hunting vehicles.

Agree with tank and low offensive power, but would hold off on turrets and instead allow transported troops access to gun ports for their primary weapon with a 45* FOV.

And this comment right here is the basis for my murder taxi comment. I don't care if the maps don't have straightaways; the astute player will eventually migrate to the MAV for murder-taxiing due to 1) nitrous/torque converter/whatever 2) low speed impact deaths and 3) get increased lethality and survivability over the LAV. We will have murdertaxi classic and New murdertaxi.

The intent of my participation were to foresee potential misuses and bring them to light, not to ruffle feathers or invite abuse. I don't know how to respond to that... MAV incarnation are subject to the whims of the CCP drawing board. Can you link to a concrete description of MAV operation? The ubiquitous QQ threads on this forum about LAVs would indicate that the comment is a statement of fact, not delusion brought on by paranoia as you so kindly asserted. Perhaps in an open-rear variant with reduced armor and the afore-mentioned maneuverability challenges it would be a viable option i.e. glass cannon with 6x the kills upon destruction. On a side note, impact damage fix is not yet in place and I'm not holding my breath, sorry.

Are any of these valid descriptions of what is sought?
Have the torque to climb hills but promptly flip over when discontinuous terrain is encountered.
Operate predominantly on roads but rarely reach the speed of an LAV due to inertia concerns.
Be concurrently heavily armored and field proto AP blasters and a mobile CRU and troop repair.
Be exceedingly long in stance, tanked, and able to transport 6 proto logi's with vehicle reppers.
Require 2-3 dedicated AV to take out as well as 3-9 AP players to remove the deposited troops.

I eagerly anticipate the arrival of MAVs, just hoping they get this right as it has the potential to be a major game changer. o

Thinking about this more, I think the base acceleration on the MAV should be low (like HAV low), and the Operation skill should increase the acceleration to effective levels. This way you would need a dedicated truck driver to get the most out of it, and they would not be spammed by everyone.