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Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 574	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:23:00 - [1] - Quote Lately you have really been nerfing this nerfing that to try and balance things. Tac rifle is perfect example. Laser Rifle is another perfect example. I think you could maybe buff other weapons slightly. Not big jumps just small ones messing with their range, damage, rate of fire. Giving small buffs and see how it effects the over all gameplay. Personally I think all weapons need a 25% range buff to premote more long range gun play. right now everything is about hip firing and strafing. Just think small buffs could better the game over dropping the nerf hammer. Like everyone cries for. I agree it might end up being more work because you have to buff more weapons where the nerf only happens to a single weapon but I think it could over all be better for the gameplay.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 340	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:27:00 - [2] - Quote A magic wand!? don't be ridiculous what we need is a bacon buff, magi wands simply aren't powerful enough to help us now.
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 70	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:28:00 - [3] - Quote There is no buff bat. :O
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 515	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:34:00 - [4] - Quote I do think that if we feed the weapons bacon. We should also give them a glass of bacon grease to wash down that bacon. Then just to make sure they get plenty of power we finish it with a cheese stuffed bacon wrapped grilled jalapeno. I think after feeding the weapons a diet of this food for a single day they will either A) Work completely like they should and all be balanced between eachother....or B) Only the strong weapons will survive as the rest will have died from bacon overexposure.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1848	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:47:00 - [5] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Lately you have really been nerfing this nerfing that to try and balance things. Tac rifle is perfect example. Laser Rifle is another perfect example. I think you could maybe buff other weapons slightly. Not big jumps just small ones messing with their range, damage, rate of fire. Giving small buffs and see how it effects the over all gameplay. Personally I think all weapons need a 25% range buff to premote more long range gun play. right now everything is about hip firing and strafing. Just think small buffs could better the game over dropping the nerf hammer. Like everyone cries for. I agree it might end up being more work because you have to buff more weapons where the nerf only happens to a single weapon but I think it could over all be better for the gameplay. We already have confirmation of new Absolute ranges for all weapons that are far beyond the ranges we have right now being in the works. I'm thinking they might even be coming in for Uprising 1.2. The Tac AR was broken as ****. It made every other Light weapon useless. If you're trying to say it didn't need the adjustment it got, you're up a tree.
Alina Heart DIOS EX. 237	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:56:00 - [6] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Lately you have really been nerfing this nerfing that to try and balance things. Tac rifle is perfect example. Laser Rifle is another perfect example. I think you could maybe buff other weapons slightly. Not big jumps just small ones messing with their range, damage, rate of fire. Giving small buffs and see how it effects the over all gameplay. Personally I think all weapons need a 25% range buff to premote more long range gun play. right now everything is about hip firing and strafing. Just think small buffs could better the game over dropping the nerf hammer. Like everyone cries for. I agree it might end up being more work because you have to buff more weapons where the nerf only happens to a single weapon but I think it could over all be better for the gameplay. TAC rifle is a perfect example of a justified nerf done right.
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 102	Posted - 2013.06.07 13:58:00 - [7] - Quote Nerf hammer, buff bat, magic Fn wands... None of this is needed. Fix CQC lag and I will eliminate everyone in a uniform, nondiscriminatory manner. TARs and LAVs have been allowed to run rampant in the absence of my shotgun.
Panther Alpha Lone Wolf Going Solo 442	Posted - 2013.06.07 14:04:00 - [8] - Quote I will "prefer " if CCP just stops trying to balance the game...and from now on they just concentrate in finishing the ****** game. Really... you need to finish the fuc.....g........ game......CCP.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 291	Posted - 2013.06.07 14:55:00 - [9] - Quote Panther Alpha wrote: I will "prefer " if CCP just stops trying to balance the game...and from now on they just concentrate in finishing the ****** game. Really... you need to finish the fuc.....g........ game......CCP. What does finishing the game entail? Im curious... Cause I don't see any indication that this game will ever be 'finished', thats not how the game was developed. There will always be new content that is integrated and complementary to the existing content. This isn't COD, where the game is a separated entity and they just add a few maps and a gun and charge you 50 bucks for it.
Panther Alpha Lone Wolf Going Solo 443	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:04:00 - [10] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Panther Alpha wrote: I will "prefer " if CCP just stops trying to balance the game...and from now on they just concentrate in finishing the ****** game. Really... you need to finish the fuc.....g........ game......CCP. What does finishing the game entail? Im curious... Cause I don't see any indication that this game will ever be 'finished', thats not how the game was developed. There will always be new content that is integrated and complementary to the existing content. This isn't COD, where the game is a separated entity and they just add a few maps and a gun and charge you 50 bucks for it. I know Indie games that are more complete than Dust 514.. and Dust 514 suppose to be a "AAA" game... think about that Fanboy.

Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 77	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:21:00 - [11] - Quote Like the idea for a range buff to increase general engagement range but the TAC needed the balance it got, the laser rifle was pretty lol though.
SoCal Ninja IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 121	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:29:00 - [12] - Quote Far easier to assume you made one error and bring it into line with the rest of the game, than that you made only one right choice and make changes across the board for the entire game. Game balance is about changing one variable at a time and seeing what happens to the web that you have. Several changes have unintended reactions, so no, expect the nerf to happen far more than the buff and be happy. Do you really trust them to change every single weapon and buff them all at the same time?
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 400	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:42:00 - [13] - Quote A nerf to one thing is also a indirect buff to everything else - so basically CCP just buffed the crap out of nearly everything in game.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3471	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:42:00 - [14] - Quote GoKart 514
Tharak Meuridiar The Empyrean Agency 37	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:52:00 - [15] - Quote I think CCP needs to be tracking weapon usage very closely. Back when I last played very few people used shotguns but it was a VERY solid weapon that I enjoyed a lot of success with. Then apparently they did something to buff it and everyone was using it while I was gone. Now I come back and it is a complete piece of trash that I almost never see people using. Something's wrong. And I think if they tracked it's usage more closely they would see it's been overnerfed.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4959	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:29:00 - [16] - Quote At the moment we have: 61 soldier classes 20 Vehicle Classes 32+ Weapon classes 100s of modules 1000s of configurations. 12,000 exterior map combinations Not sure if less complete than some indie shooters.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 324	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:32:00 - [17] - Quote How many times will we see this thread pop up again? They have clearly stated why its better to nerf one thing than buff everything else. Here is one reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxszx60ZwGw
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 265	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:34:00 - [18] - Quote got 51 assists last night with the assault scrambler rifle. I was pissed off and stopped playing the game yesterday, because CCP doesn't know how to make their guns.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 324	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:35:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At the moment we have: 61 soldier classes 20 Vehicle Classes 32+ Weapon classes 100s of modules 1000s of configurations. 12,000 exterior map combinations Not sure if less complete than some indie shooters. 61 soldier classes? Oh you mean 4, assault, heavy, scout and logi. A suit that is exactly the same only with some passive bonuses doesn't count. Also, standard - proto suits don't count, these are just upgraded versions of the same stuff. Same for vehicles. Same for weapons. Same for modules. Configuartions isn't hard to get really, make lots of slots, make a bunch of modules, done. Map combinations that some of them have barely any difference. Stop trying to make it sound any better than it is.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3486	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:38:00 - [20] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At the moment we have: 61 soldier classes 20 Vehicle Classes 32+ Weapon classes 100s of modules 1000s of configurations. 12,000 exterior map combinations Not sure if less complete than some indie shooters. I could rip this post apart and explain to you why you're looking through ******* fanboy goggles, but I don't actually care enough anymore 1000's of configurations, yup. AKA, stack shield mods or complex damage mods.

Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 325	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:45:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: At the moment we have: 61 soldier classes 20 Vehicle Classes 32+ Weapon classes 100s of modules 1000s of configurations. 12,000 exterior map combinations Not sure if less complete than some indie shooters. I could rip this post apart and explain to you why you're looking through ******* fanboy goggles, but I don't actually care enough anymore 1000's of configurations, yup. AKA, stack shield mods or complex damage mods. Already did.
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 79	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:47:00 - [22] - Quote Everything should be nerfed so no one can ever die in the game again. It makes sense, really. Dying isn't fun. So if they take it out completely, the game will be fun.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:47:00 - [23] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: got 51 assists last night with the assault scrambler rifle. I was pissed off and stopped playing the game yesterday, because CCP doesn't know how to make their guns. I think that's a record lmao. This weapon in specific needs a range buff.
WyrmHero1945 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:52:00 - [24] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: How many times will we see this thread pop up again? They have clearly stated why its better to nerf one thing than buff everything else. Here is one reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxszx60ZwGw This guy talks so fast makes me wanna vomit :S But very interesting analysis of game concepts.
Caeli SineDeo Imperfects Negative-Feedback 578	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:34:00 - [25] - Quote Oh yes I agree sometimes it is better to nerf then buff. But the problem is CCP has been a broken record with nerfing. Def in hand held weapon aspect. It all started with the HMG and Swarms back in april of last year. Moved to breach. then continued down the line. Yes was the tac powerful and maybe a little to good I agree. But I would have perfered a buff to everything first then from there if the tac sits to high us small nerfs starting with making it harder to hit people with close range hipfire. If still sitting to strong slowly take away the fire rate until you get desired effect. The game is slowly becoming to slow. Proto vs proto you can end up seeing guys drop full clips into each other with some guns. (No yes some of this deals with poor hit detection) SO yes nerfing is good but being a broken record with the big nerf hammer like CCP keeps repeating sometimes is reverse direction of what games need to do.


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