Some love in that direction would be appreciated. No huge overhaul but a little treatment maybe

Interesting idea, I'd love to get a CCP comment on the tech side of this but that notwithstanding it sounds like a good way to keep things more fluid while still preventing prior exploits.

+1
Cross

You're quite welcome, would you mind linking this thread in my 'threadnought' regarding logi rewards? I'd love to get some more logi mercs eyes on here

Lets keep the discussion alive on this topic!

I-Shayz-I did you ever see that link, want to make sure it didn't get lost on you

Cheers,
Cross

...due to the way it currently works i normally only receive about 500 - 600 WP a game, where as if i rep & gun i can get around 1800 - 2000.

Now solve the 2-3 mins you spend repairing primary objects such as Supply Depo's to maintain tactical advantage. When the enemy has almost taken it out. (usually done once the area has been cleared).

On another note, i've been hearing a bit too much about the lock on feature being a trouble. Should we discuss that in this thread as well?

Right now I've only seen people repair vehicles rarely, and installations even less. Could make it so the vehicle or installation had to have been damaged or done some damage 30 seconds prior...

Heres an even better idea for repair tool...just make it so the only time you get points is when your teammate is hurt by an enemy.any other forms of damage wont count.

I could only see it being a problem if some one left triage nanohives in the MCC or back lines and had a (goth)friend or two back there hurting them selves and the logi stayed with a heavy or a couple assaults to get the guardian bonus and just stacked WP like mad for orbies. I know its horrible and sleazy, but I figured I would bring it up before it becomes broken and we get hit with an even harder nerf hammer.

5. I've gone many games with 0 kills 14 assists and snagged 800-900 WP through heals, hacks, ammo, and spawns. As a support player, I shouldn't be rocking 1.5k-2k and getting my own OB... I should require a squad to gain those numbers.

logis should try to avoid combat after all they are what keeps a team alive...if they do this we would be forced to go for kills. i might as well put a repair tool on an assault suit.

I really like the idea of a reset timer on needles, no more nubs picking people up in the sights of the sniper who just one-shot them just so to be picked up again and again and again. (Though it is a great way to screw with some ones KDR)

Most of the equipment already has a built in reset timer of some sort so adding it to these two tools would be an excellent start.

The best way to make the repair tool (and 'support players') viable, is to make them attractive to use in a firefight. Right now, there's pretty much no circumstance in high end gameplay where using a repair tool in combat is more useful than actually shooting the enemy with your gun.

There's been a slew of suggestions on how to accomplish this, but that is the premise to making repair tools actually valuable in competitive play.

Your description matches nearly everyone else's in competitive play; "They're basically only used after a firefight to keep heavies alive" Which is useful, I won't deny... But it diminishes the role of a healing tool. A healer role should be able to viably heal in combat, but it should still come down to the tank's ability to avoid damage in the first place that keeps the both of them alive. If it's more viable for your healer to be doing DPS than healing during the fight itself then something about the healing role needs to be looked at, don't you think?

Or, can we just remove the WP cap? Nothing else gets the treatment. So why does a staple of a logi build have to?

MAG had it to where friendly fire and fall damage wasn't rewarded exp upon healing someone. This is the way it should be in DUST. If something like this was done for kills, there would be total outrage.

So I heard a rumor that since the latest patch we now only get triage points while repping people in active combat? Can anyone confirm this is or is not the case? Haven't played my logi since patch cause I'm obsessed with my tanker (yes I'm a glutton for punishment).

[REQUEST] More incentive to play a support role - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?find=unread&g=posts&t=96467
Update: More WP rewards for support actions will be available in 1.5

Some historical musings about repair rewards specifically:

In Chromosome, the repair rewards were changed from the old cyclical system. We replaced that with two new rewards:

Guardian - 35 WP - You're actively repairing a player who kills a target
Triage - 25 WP - You repair someone who has taken damage within the last 60 seconds