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Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:22:00 -
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It is Pay To Win...full stop.
In other Free to play games, if you have the time to grind SP for about 6-8 hours a day, you can keep up with Paying people. But the SP cap in Dust 514 makes that impossible. You can potentially hit the cap in the weekend, very easily.
In other words...Most Free To Play games uses a model in which YOU get pay for playing the game. If you can put the hours into the game, and you are good at it, the company rewards you hard work and loyalty, with the same stuff that Paying customers get.
This is a Greedy Pay To Win model, that doesn't rewards loyalty, and only favors people with deep pockets. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:27:00 -
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Aoena Rays wrote:Can you get to level 5 of any skill without paying any money? Yes.
Can you get to any weapon without paying any money? Yes.
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And how long will take you to get to level 5 of all the important skills, without Boosters ? 5 years ? |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:38:00 -
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Tharak Meuridiar wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:Can you get to level 5 of any skill without paying any money? Yes.
Can you get to any weapon without paying any money? Yes.
/thread And how long will take you to get to level 5 of all the important skills, without Boosters ? 5 years ? The boost is like what? 1/3rd? It's hardly like people using boosters max all their stuff overnight. If it take 5 years to do it without boosters it will take 3+ years to do it with them.
Is simple math.. a normal booster give you a 50% boost, do that every week for 2.5 years... and you'll get the equivalent of 5 years of normal SP grinding. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:52:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:You have a 20 dollar booster that's better and more expensive than any other booster and you only put it up for a week. Which means the pay crowd can stock up on 3, 4, or 5 of them. The non paying crowd who couldn't afford 20 dollars that week never gets the opportunity to get the same boost. P2W?  Doing some math, the pay crowd in 30 days is now 1.5 million sp ahead of the non paying crowd by the way thats enough to never get killed by an LAV ever again. Proto swarm, Proto AV Think about that, nerf rats That's an excellent observation. The booster user gets 50% more bonus SP in their bonus pool. So if/when the Bell Grande version, pr what ever the EFF they call it, is available those who purchase that will be that much more ahead in SP per week. But, this is not, I repeat, NOT a pay2win game... at all... I mean, they said so at fanfest, right?
Looks to me that they got Greedy after the Fanfest...I plaint all the Fanboys that has been spending cash in boosters in the Open Beta... CCP saw all that cash, and thought; Yeah.. we definitely doing "that". |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 09:06:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:Ignatius Crumwald wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:You have a 20 dollar booster that's better and more expensive than any other booster and you only put it up for a week. Which means the pay crowd can stock up on 3, 4, or 5 of them. The non paying crowd who couldn't afford 20 dollars that week never gets the opportunity to get the same boost. P2W? Doing some math, the pay crowd in 30 days is now 1.5 million sp ahead of the non paying crowd by the way thats enough to never get killed by an LAV ever again. Proto swarm, Proto AV Think about that, nerf rats That's an excellent observation. The booster user gets 50% more bonus SP in their bonus pool. So if/when the Bell Grande version, pr what ever the EFF they call it, is available those who purchase that will be that much more ahead in SP per week. But, this is not, I repeat, NOT a pay2win game... at all... I mean, they said so at fanfest, right? No dude this was a booster that gave you a 100% boost and was only available for a limited time
50% still is bad "dude". If it was 25% will be a different story.
If CCP wants to keep this boosters active, they have change to SP cap to double the amount of what it is right now... or this game is going to fail. No one wants to Pay to be competitive, eventually people will get bore with that. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:17:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Is simple math.. a normal booster give you a 50% boost, do that every week for 2.5 years... and you'll get the equivalent of 5 years of normal SP grinding. Apparently NOT that simple (for you anyway). And because I'm nice, 50% x 2.5 years + 2.5 years = 3.75 years
50% of 5 years is 2.5 years ( 2 years and 6 months )
2.5 + 2.5 = 5
50% more, is double than nothing at all. |
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