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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:21:00 -
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You have a 20 dollar booster that's better and more expensive than any other booster and you only put it up for a week.
Which means the pay crowd can stock up on 3, 4, or 5 of them.
The non paying crowd who couldn't afford 20 dollars that week never gets the opportunity to get the same boost.
P2W?
Doing some math, the pay crowd in 30 days is now 1.5 million sp ahead of the non paying crowd
by the way thats enough to never get killed by an LAV ever again. Proto swarm, Proto AV Think about that, nerf rats |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:28:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:You have a 20 dollar booster that's better and more expensive than any other booster and you only put it up for a week. Which means the pay crowd can stock up on 3, 4, or 5 of them. The non paying crowd who couldn't afford 20 dollars that week never gets the opportunity to get the same boost. P2W? Doing some math, the pay crowd in 30 days is now 1.5 million sp ahead of the non paying crowd by the way thats enough to never get killed by an LAV ever again. Proto swarm, Proto AV Think about that, nerf rats either way there will always be an sp difference between the people who play almost every day and those that don't. but yeah it does seem like that, however I love blowing up their tank that costs real money on earth with my isk purchased tank
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:30:00 -
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Any time you die from a non milita Gun you get killed by SP, Noob. Do you even know what SP is? |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:35:00 -
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Don Rummy wrote:If you remove incentives to generate revenue then how do you turn a profit? If you don't turn a profit how can you afford staff? If you cant afford shortage how can you afford to do make timely updates, pay for servers, development expenses, etc?
You are getting a free game, to play for free on Psn(as a opposed to XBOX) and you are crying over a booster pack?
Stop the entitlement, thanks.
Whos crying? Am i not allowed to have a discussion about a mysteriously vanishing booster from 2 weeks ago?
Stop the entitlement? dafuq are you talking about...
Its not my job to turn a profit and It is CCPs job to keep this game from becoming P2W...... |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:45:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Raise your hand if you too were not surprised to see another barely coherent thread by the OP.
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:49:00 -
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Don Rummy wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:Don Rummy wrote:If you remove incentives to generate revenue then how do you turn a profit? If you don't turn a profit how can you afford staff? If you cant afford shortage how can you afford to do make timely updates, pay for servers, development expenses, etc?
You are getting a free game, to play for free on Psn(as a opposed to XBOX) and you are crying over a booster pack?
Stop the entitlement, thanks. Whos crying? Am i not allowed to have a discussion about a mysteriously vanishing booster from 2 weeks ago? Stop the entitlement? dafuq are you talking about... Its not my job to turn a profit and It is CCPs job to keep this game from becoming P2W...... Your original post makes no reference to a "disappearing booster pack". If you are referring to the pack you didn't spend $20, the non existent booster, then you should uninstall the game. Go play Defiance.
Do you know how to read? the first sentence in my OP is about the 20 dollar booster and the last part of that sentence tells how it dissapeard after a week. For your information i did spend the 20 dollars on the pack.
You should uninstall your web browser because your an idiot and everything your saying is bullshit |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:53:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Raise your hand if you too were not surprised to see another barely coherent thread by the OP. * Raises hand!*
OMG Cosgar your the biggest no life passive aggresive stalker crybaby ive ever known.......
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:54:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:
You should uninstall your web browser because your an idiot and everything your saying is bullshit
Quoting for irony.
Awww Abron im sorry dude did you not agree with on my posts.....
You have my full attention now whats tha matter little baby? What did i say that made you upset. Was it about the LAVs? Are you still getting rund over? |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 07:58:00 -
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agustis caesar wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:You have a 20 dollar booster that's better and more expensive than any other booster and you only put it up for a week. Which means the pay crowd can stock up on 3, 4, or 5 of them. The non paying crowd who couldn't afford 20 dollars that week never gets the opportunity to get the same boost. P2W? Doing some math, the pay crowd in 30 days is now 1.5 million sp ahead of the non paying crowd by the way thats enough to never get killed by an LAV ever again. Proto swarm, Proto AV Think about that, nerf rats The Devs needs Isk (icelandic money is actually called isk) to feed their childrens too, they all dont catch whales for food in iceland ;-). that said, yeah they did go overboard a bit. I think theyre stilling "testing the waters" on what to sell and what not to sell.
Yeah i know, **** all i wanted ta do was talk about it. Didnt know the rats were crawling the forums at this hour.
AURUM camo paint and Camo paint starter packs wouldve been less P2W
It was a nice booster though came at a perfect time for me
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:00:00 -
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Don Rummy wrote:Cosgar wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Raise your hand if you too were not surprised to see another barely coherent thread by the OP. * Raises hand!* EHK0ONE wrote:If you lose to an AR face 2 face with a heavy, you suck its not your drop suit. So wait.....Its not about skill points or purchased boosters but how I play the game? OReally?
WOWWW..............Now im gonna have to get 2 restraining orders. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:02:00 -
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Django your just a stupid noobtard.......dont talk to me.
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:04:00 -
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u kno im kiddin man... |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:07:00 -
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[u][i][b]No, you should probably stop pretending to know about stuff you don't know about. It's as simple as that.
Hey why dont you use your worthless opinions ta go stink up somebody elses thread. |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:33:00 -
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What about pay2lookcool, Why havnt they implemented that yet |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:41:00 -
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Dude your trying to talk to these guys about simple math...........thats like rocket science ta them |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 08:59:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:You have a 20 dollar booster that's better and more expensive than any other booster and you only put it up for a week. Which means the pay crowd can stock up on 3, 4, or 5 of them. The non paying crowd who couldn't afford 20 dollars that week never gets the opportunity to get the same boost. P2W? Doing some math, the pay crowd in 30 days is now 1.5 million sp ahead of the non paying crowd by the way thats enough to never get killed by an LAV ever again. Proto swarm, Proto AV Think about that, nerf rats That's an excellent observation. The booster user gets 50% more bonus SP in their bonus pool. So if/when the Bell Grande version, pr what ever the EFF they call it, is available those who purchase that will be that much more ahead in SP per week. But, this is not, I repeat, NOT a pay2win game... at all... I mean, they said so at fanfest, right?
No dude this was a booster that gave you a 100% boost and was only available for a limited time
In my opinion the most P2W thing theyve ever done.
They said at fanfest something like, "basically the stuff we sell will be for asthetic reasons only like diffrent paint for your guns."
Yeah well so much for that idea |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 09:08:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:Proto Av grenades don't stop you from being ran over.
People stop you from being run over..............
Speak for yourself man proto AV nades stop me from getting run over all the time |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 09:12:00 -
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James-5955 wrote:Well, unfortunately, somehow a lot of people don't think that SP gives an advantage. Don't ask me how they don't realize that more SP = stronger character = advantage over lower SP character; it's just the way it is around here it seems. I don't get how it's even debatable myself, some of these skill when leveled to 5 are equivalent to an advanced or prototype item added to your suit without taking up a slot. Yet people talk like that's no advantage.
Ever since the first beta builds of this game I've felt it had "grind to win" written all over it. Well now there's those booster items that you can buy that make you grind SP out that much faster. People like to say it's "pay to grind less", but (IMHO) it's "pay to grind faster". There's a difference between the two, with boosters your SP cap is significantly higher allowing for more SP. AKA, more of an advantage over other players who don't have it.
What do I consider a pay to win game? A game that gives you an advantage over other players if you fork over some money. Is this not what happens in Dust?
After around 15 mil SP I imagine the playing field will even out more but I have to wonder how long it will take people to make it there and how much patience many players will have. Skill will always be a factor but you can't deny obvious advantages.
Not to mention the difference between isk contact grenades and the AUR fused locus grenades. Saw a thread about that awhile back that pointed it out to me and wow.. =/
Great post man. And your right people are in denial about SP giving you an advantage.
Theres no way someone who didnt pay would agree with them
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:23:00 -
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Somebodys gonna get math slapped, IDK who it is but its comin' |
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Posted - 2013.06.07 12:29:00 -
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Thank you CCP for giving me less skill points than everybody else...
Theres nothing valuable & you dont have any reason to be grateful for something everybody gets for free |
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