DUST Search - [critical] RDV killing dropships

Aoena Rays wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

I'm sorry, but are you kidding me?

A helping hand has been extended. This Dev may want to see it from our side, may be new, may want to have evidence from us to help push it up the bug list to get it above the line. While it may be instinct to slap the hand, i'll be reaching out for it and I am grateful to have had a response. I'll do my best to treat the request as a genuine offer of assistance. Why don't you do the same. Film if you can, screenshot the damage in at the end if you can't film it.

Yeah, I'll try to sometime.

Sorry, I'm just astounded that something like this should require evidence though. All the mechanics are there. It's like building a game that has fall damage then asking to see a video of someone falling to death before you'll understand what's happening.

Or maybe devs never had this happening as they are playing game normally while you are trying to drop dropship on all possible places and get it squashed - therefore they need proof of concept in order to fix it.


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Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 607	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:43:00 - [1] - Quote CCP OverRainbow wrote: Hi, Could you please capture a video to demonstrate how the RDV behavior is so we can investigate this problem better? Thank you. I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? You have a system in place where RDV's spawn randomly in the air, with full speed in some trajectory. Then you have user vehicles in the air zooming around costing 1-2 million ISK as of yet. RDV's frequently both decloak inside of drop-ships, spawn and fly straight into them from close/far away (centimeters to miles), or depart and crash into drop-ships after they've deployed a vehicle. Any one of these events results in instant death of the user's vehicle, they take like 50,000-200,000 damage or something stupid and just drop out of the sky burning. I've lost at LEAST 200 million ISK to this issue and quite frankly nobody is going to play this game in the air when most of their deaths are due to something completely out of ANYONE's control except CCP. Sure if I had someone to hold my cellphone and run video capture 24-7 I could get you a video. But the mechanics are there and obvious. You may not believe the frequency of this occurrence but the fact that it Can happen should be bad enough to warrant some consideration of change. Although if I were to film somehow, I could probably show you 10-20 RDV collisions a day, and a good portion of those being literally spawned inside of. Instant, unpredictable, and unavoidable death. That'd be about 15-35 million ISK? I realize you're new here so don't take this personally. I'm actually very glad you responded since this issue has been around [FOREVER]. I guess you didn't get the CCP memo to ignore it though. I just find it odd how you request a video of this happening as if CCP has never seen or heard of it before. Never flown a drop-ship more than 3 matches or wasn't aware that this could happen. It happens because there is nothing to prevent it from happening. And the more you fly, the more likely it is to happen to you.
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 607	Posted - 2013.06.17 20:06:00 - [2] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? A helping hand has been extended. This Dev may want to see it from our side, may be new, may want to have evidence from us to help push it up the bug list to get it above the line. While it may be instinct to slap the hand, i'll be reaching out for it and I am grateful to have had a response. I'll do my best to treat the request as a genuine offer of assistance. Why don't you do the same. Film if you can, screenshot the damage in at the end if you can't film it. Yeah, I'll try to sometime. Sorry, I'm just astounded that something like this should require evidence though. All the mechanics are there. It's like building a game that has fall damage then asking to see a video of someone falling to death before you'll understand what's happening.
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 619	Posted - 2013.06.18 07:51:00 - [3] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: I'm sorry, but are you kidding me? A helping hand has been extended. This Dev may want to see it from our side, may be new, may want to have evidence from us to help push it up the bug list to get it above the line. While it may be instinct to slap the hand, i'll be reaching out for it and I am grateful to have had a response. I'll do my best to treat the request as a genuine offer of assistance. Why don't you do the same. Film if you can, screenshot the damage in at the end if you can't film it. Yeah, I'll try to sometime. Sorry, I'm just astounded that something like this should require evidence though. All the mechanics are there. It's like building a game that has fall damage then asking to see a video of someone falling to death before you'll understand what's happening. Or maybe devs never had this happening as they are playing game normally while you are trying to drop dropship on all possible places and get it squashed - therefore they need proof of concept in order to fix it. What are you talking about? Have you ever flown a DS or seen an RDV? They spawn in the middle of the air randomly. You know, where normal people are normally flying. This has nothing to do with being squished, please. Read.
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 626	Posted - 2013.06.24 02:46:00 - [4] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: CCP OverRainbow wrote: Hi, Could you please capture a video to demonstrate how the RDV behavior is so we can investigate this problem better? Thank you. As requested I filmed and created a video for you. I did a voice over,freeze frames, fade to black etc to try explain why its such a bother in a clear, and also interesting way. follow the youtube link below. Thanks. If you could post that you watched it I would appreciate it. Just so i know you saw the reply. RDV - Death From The Void Thank you for making this video. Despite what others may say about this "Not happening to them very much" it happens All the time. The difference between me saying it happens all the time, and them saying they've only seen it once is the frequency by which we fly. I'm only in the air, and constantly in the air. This is an hourly occurrence for me, although it could be a third of that if you que fast enough
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 626	Posted - 2013.06.24 02:50:00 - [5] - Quote It does not matter how high or low, how fast or slow, how careful or not you are. These WILL hit you, and there will be nothing you can do about it. I'm tired of it. CCP does not care because the pilots are few so the problem is "small". Seriously, from a company who made an entire space game, this is a drastic and embarrassing oversight. It's oversight or neglect. To have air vehicles (The closest thing to a spacecraft in Eve) spawning into bloody player owned ships and demolishing them instantly and without warning. I'm out hundreds of millions and that is NOT an exaggeration. Were it not for the huge influx of ISK from asset liquidation on "release" then I'd already be broke and quit Dust by necessity. However I've been kept afloat by the value of hundreds of millions of ISK from that conversion 3 months ago. Resources are dwindling and with that, flight becomes impossible.
Nguruthos IX Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 626	Posted - 2013.06.24 04:49:00 - [6] - Quote Wolfica wrote: this doesn't happen to just DS pilots, basically if 2 or more vehicals are called in within 50m of each other at the same time the RDV's make it their mission to hit the other. best thing to do for a DS is to wait for every one to call in that initial spam of vehicles before taking off. And this is a solution because Nobody EVER calls in a vehicle after the first two minutes of a match. right? Riiight?? Awh.