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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:41:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Broken logic is broken
All respecs do is allow people to play the FOTM, and take advantage of nerfs. If people would just play what they enjoyed, instead of what's OP, nobody would be crying for a respec.
One of these days someone will defend a lack of respecs without immediately crying "flavor of the month!" because that excuse is getting really old really fast.
Let's just gimp everyone into following predetermined optimized builds with zero experimentation and uniqueness so you don't have to deal with a bunch of people switching to a weapon you don't like going up against. |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:44:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Creed 'Jigsaw' Vacarus wrote:A better idea would just for CCP to implement a once a month option to respec one of your characters. So you use this option, and it reset's your skill points, but it can only be used on one character, and only once every thirty days. This accounts for Nerfs/changes, as well as new gear that will be added so on and so forth. Or we just scrap the skillsystem because it's obviously of no worth at all for anyone and does not provide any gameplay value watsoever at that point. The point of skills is beeing permanent. Remove the permanent part and all what's left is a 3month powergrind. I hate grinding for the sake of it.
What use does the skill system provide otherwise?
You spend weeks or months investing SP into a weapon class to use a weapon marginally better than the one you started out with and then spend even more SP adding on stats that don't end up mattering either because it only takes a handful of rounds to drop someone in the first place.
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1270
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:48:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Broken logic is broken
All respecs do is allow people to play the FOTM, and take advantage of nerfs. If people would just play what they enjoyed, instead of what's OP, nobody would be crying for a respec. FOTM actually does a service because it shows how exploitable game mechanics are so effective counters or (reasonable) nerfs can be applied. I'd rather the TAR situation have happened now than to happen when connection with EVE actually mattered. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
367
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:52:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Creed 'Jigsaw' Vacarus wrote:A better idea would just for CCP to implement a once a month option to respec one of your characters. So you use this option, and it reset's your skill points, but it can only be used on one character, and only once every thirty days. This accounts for Nerfs/changes, as well as new gear that will be added so on and so forth. Or we just scrap the skillsystem because it's obviously of no worth at all for anyone and does not provide any gameplay value watsoever at that point. The point of skills is beeing permanent. Remove the permanent part and all what's left is a 3month powergrind. I hate grinding for the sake of it. What use does the skill system provide otherwise? You spend weeks or months investing SP into a weapon class to use a weapon marginally better than the one you started out with and then spend even more SP adding on stats that don't end up mattering either because it only takes a handful of rounds to drop someone in the first place. I answered this question in page one of your own thread about the same subject and i and others have written much more on the subject and raised many problems of respecs in this thread.
Why you choose to repeat the same old arguments as if none of this his been explained to you multiple times is beyond me. |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
17
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Posted - 2013.08.01 12:33:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:MCEINSTEIN08 wrote:jenza aranda wrote:sorry but no, its just not going to happen. Even though I do not understand, I appreciate the response. Thank you. The idea of this game is that your decisions and your actions have consequences. When you decide to do one thing, it could stop you from doing another. By spending skill points on one thing, it will take you a while to skill save up the points to skill into something else. By adding the ability to change your mind, you are just trivialising what should be a very important choice. By making it a pay option, it just becomes a pay to win option where you can just pay X Aurum to spec into the flavour of the month. Things change in terms of ballence quite often, by skilling into what is considered the most powerful option, you should accept the risk that it may change instead of paying for the option of getting something new. This is why CCP will not allow people to respec any time they want, thats why im majorly against anything like this. If this is true then there shouldnt even be information about our suits we should just pick a number and see what we get. As with the Cal Logi that was just denied respecs even after the suit bonus was changed and the entire nature of what you choose, YOU , the paying customer, coupled with 40 cpu being removed and the new bonus going to a module that we can't fit and we have ccp saying no respec? This is the eve way and yet we are not space nerds we are fps, ccp nor cpm understand that, nor do they understand that while eve rides solo fps like dust are a dime a dozen, my prediction is when destiny touches down this game will be left in the ...........dust?????? |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
17
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Posted - 2013.08.01 12:42:00 -
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The dumbest thing about the justificationo not allowing respecs is that your choices matter and are permanent, yet how is that true if the choice we make is altered after we make it, simply on the whims of others crying about how good my choice was. No your choices matter as long as ccp doesn't change them.... |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.08.01 12:50:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:#1Posted: 2013.06.06 19:34 | Report | Edited by: Sam Tektzby Like Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff.
COPY AND PAST THIS, LITTER THE FORUMS WITH THIS AND CCP MIGHT LISTEN.
if you dont want this to happen go throw yourself out of an airlock -_- My suit is sealed.
No purchasable respecs. |
NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
318
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:02:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:#1Posted: 2013.06.06 19:34 | Report | Edited by: Sam Tektzby Like Through whole that nerfs etc. Iam DEFO for implementation of optional respec for some cost, like cca 10 000 000 ingame curency. I think its only fair way how playerbase can overcome whole that nerfs and "balancing" stuff.
COPY AND PAST THIS, LITTER THE FORUMS WITH THIS AND CCP MIGHT LISTEN.
if you dont want this to happen go throw yourself out of an airlock -_-
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Lucifalic
Baked n Loaded
34
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:22:00 -
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No respecs. It's easy and costs little to change classes. Try them. You don't need proto everything right away. Try skill not gear. Know your limitations and work towards improving. I don't have proto... Anything. So stop acting like little rich kids off the oc who want everything cause their daddy has money.
No respecs |
Miokai Zahou
Film Actors Guilds
15
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:29:00 -
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No respecs.
Live with your choices and don't use that excuse that it's just another FPS games because it isn't and if you don't have the patients to sit down and think about what you want your main to be.. well the door is that way.
Last i checked no one is holding a gun to all your heads to play this game now so... start grinding SP like the rest of us. |
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
853
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:31:00 -
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oh goodie ! More P2W features ... like we need anymore in this game... |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
177
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Posted - 2013.08.01 13:42:00 -
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xjumpman23 wrote:DUST514 needs respecs (at least in the short term until CCP can hire competent people to properly balance the game, and CPM0 can establish a CPM actually voted on by the community)
Once we get rid of the know-nothings who have a position we might be able to actually properly balance this game.
#freexprotoman23
This will never be balanced, bleep CCP thought the Flaylocks were fine until the masses got it. Then CCP said opps it,needs a nerf lol.
Cal logi again CCP said it was fine, then it hit the masses CCP nerfs it WTF.
This game needs a respec option cuz this part of CCP they have no clue on how to balance. So give the players a choice by having option respec available.
No matter what new weapon, suit, or vehicle CCP puts out will get a nerf, cuz they can't get it right the first.
No repecs along with bad developing will kill off Dust with PS community and leave it with Eve players who purchased a PS3 to play DUST lol.
Next up merging of the servers due to low player counts. |
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