Spam auto fire on a controller, you're not getting off more than 11-14 rounds before you overheat.
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I gotta say TAC AR nerf was okay on the whole. Not perfect, but okay.
And it is still definately usable.

The greatest thing about the nerf was that it affected the biggest issue - short to med range machinegunning while hipfiring.
Now, even tho the effect is working, the way it was done was a bit silly: just added random spread.
Extreme kick would've been better solution for a few reasons.

Not that current spread allows point blank machinegunning still, but in that situation TAC ARs don't trump like they used to other ranges. This is isn't that terrible..



The RoF nerf has a interesting effect few realised:
It makes autofiring TAC ARs very stable. At long range it is quite easy to hold reticle on target while shooting which wasn't the case before (ofc you could've tuned your autofire ROF to 400 but hey who does that...)
Scoping while autofiring now takes far less skill as you don't have to struggle to control the reticle (which was cool)

BTW, because of that, has anyone noticed how post-nerf TAC AR feels a bit like Breach AR of last summer? =P


TLDR;
@Those who say TAC AR is still OP: most important short to mid range nerf worked. at ranges15-40m TAC AR is at disadvantage.
@Those who say TAC AR is unusable: at mediumLong and Long range TAC AR is still beast. Autofiring now takes less skill while scoped. CQC point blank still works.

and it settles that "it kills me too fast" complaint.

It shouldn't be set as fast as you can push the button. It should be set as fast as someone could pull the trigger of a semi-auto rifle with a cycle of operations and recoil, while trying to keep it on target, which is closer to where it's at now.

I would like to see some rational discussion as to how a semi auto weapon should somehow be able to cycle so fast. For a balance standpoint explain why a semi auto weapon with very high damadge should also have a very high rate of fire and be usable on even entry level dropsuits and suffer no movement minus.
Before the nerf my biggest problem with a TAC AR is that it out damages the proto HMG which has several down points. The balance points to a heavy proto HMG are that you have to run a heavy dropsuit so your movement is slow and so is your turning. You dont get an equipment slot as a heavy.

Instead of crying over this why not look at THE SCRAMBLER RIFLE. This is the most balance i have seen in this game. Lazer's were OP in last build The TAC AR were OP I say GREAT JOB CCP :) Im not getting by the same gun over and over because a full squad of 6 use OP guns now. QQ that they nerfed ur OP as hell gun.

The SCR is a freaking beast. the overheat and the PG usage are needed.

CCP will not stop adding new weapons, modules and equipment. You'll have to change your playstyle accordingly for each new release. I do agree with you in that people should think twice about calling something OP, but having the TAC AR governed by the same skill tree as the regular AR was unbalanced. Now it's just an extra tool for the AR user - not a weapon in and of itself. .

1. I support the ROF nerf not because of the "reel gunz" thing, but because the TAC AR shouldn't be a great weapon. It should be a tool to give the AR user some flexibility because they specced into a short range weapon. shotgunners and HMG users have no such option. Consider yourself lucky.


2. everyone wanted to "attack" the tac AR because it was unbalanced and it made the AR skill tree a 2-for-1 skill. that's pretty freaking unbalanced if you ask me.

And people that justify crying about the TAR nerf by saying it's not how single fire ARs work in any other FPS game, go play other those other FPS games. This is Dust, so stop trying to apply the standards of other games to it. It just makes you look silly.

The AR still is king of CQB, so that SP isn't wasted. try building a fit that's more of a close range brawler. I guarantee you that you have the SP to do so. .

Devs have already mentioned that they don't want any more big sweeping changes, so you can expect a bit more stability in the skill trees.

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