20? I can get 11 with my finger a mod would cause it to overheat faster..

lol... bro, the gun overheats, rendering modded controllers USELESS.

Scrambler rifle overheats at 12 shots.

lol i can tell you don't use SR. If you did, you'll realize you have no argument.

Where does your "math" explain how firing faster, thus reducing the time of cooldown between each shot can lead to more shots beeing fired before overheat?

This requires a flaw in the heat buildup algorhythm to be possible and you provide no data to justify this assumption.

From what it sounds like, if scramblers get nerfed to adjust the OP's issue, you won't notice they got nerfed at all.

The weapon should not allow you to squeeze more shots off simply because you fired them faster than someone with an unmodded controller could. Seems like a legitimate issue, and something the OP could have simply posted in the bug/feedback forum instead of whining in General Discussions about.

It's a bug. CCP should fix it. The gun itself, when used as it's meant to be used, is balanced and 100% fine.

This here is why you fail at FPS games. Srsly just Biomass your toon and delete the client. FPS is clearly not the game for you.

::facepalm::

ffs, change the title of your thread then. If you're reporting a bug, SAY IT'S A BUG.

SR abuse?

ScR is one of the few weapons CCP got right.
Anyone complaining about it is going to complain about every gun they either don't use or are killed by.
Go play Harvest Moon.

Oh really, so they just randomly decided 705 rpm because they didn't expect people to actually be able to shoot that fast?

So basically what you are saying is that for every 1.7 seconds of firing, you want to run around unable to do didly squat for 5 seconds (this incluces, reloading, meleeing, throwing nades, swapping to a sidearm or running for that matter) meaning you are one big sitting duck?

Ok so lets take those numbers for a moment...and put them in a per minute based dps sheme and you get roughly 11.520 damage dealt in that 1 minute, thats you firing like a scrub then waddling off the heat.

Or i could just grab a AR and deal 14.400 damage in that same timespan with the stock AR and keep mobile and not make myself a gigantic waddling target on the field.

If you with your scrub Turbo controller put out 115.200 dps over a 10 minute game, getting killed allot while overheating it like a boss every 1.7 seconds, the other guy will be putting out 144.000 dps.

Go ahead and use that Turbo Button, makes it easier for me to kill you, that is if you don't kill yourself first.

Fascinating! As we can see - the subject is crying for a Nerf despite the past 3 weeks of careful discussion and feedback concerning the scrambler rifle. He then attempts to obfuscate this by saying there is a bug. Whether there is a bug or not (I plan to test this in one hour) not withstanding - this an attempt to get a Nerf started based on the reasoning that the TAR was OP. only without considering the many drawbacks associated with the SR that TARs simply don't have.

The gun overheats at 19-20 rounds with or without a modded controller, so on that point alone your point is invalid already.
The way this gun heat works is you fire, it builds up, there is no way around the buildup, modded controller or not, clicking it faster does not make it build up slower.

My finger manages 19 shots in sub 2 seconds perfectly fine, no need to use a modded controller for this and my brain manages to stop at 18 rounds perfectly fine too.

There is 0 benefit for using a modded controller on this gun.

19 rounds is standard with an Amarr Assault suit, don't bother with this gun with any other suit, youll manage 11-14 ish.

Tried it on the Templar Renegade187 who came with no skills & scrambler rifle BPO, horrible gun without the skills in the proto amarr assault suit.

But 19 rounds is what my finger can manage and 18 is where my brain stops counting.

Hrmm, so it does sound like a mod controller or mouse could be used for this.. but then again it could for everything. at least unlike the TAC AR this thing overheats, so if they are using a mod , they will overheat quite often leaving themselves vulnerable.. or this is what I believe would happen, could be wrong

Well, the overheat is supposed to limit the number of shots that can be fired in short order, that way balancing the weapon. The fact that shooting faster allows for almost twice the amount of bullets, instead of just overheating equally faster bothers me for it's counterintuitiveness alone. It also weakens the limiting effect that the heat mechanic is supposed to have on weapon balance.

I'd much rather have the RoF unchanged but the heat buildup fixed. Pure logic suggests that shooting faster should actually lead to fewer shots because there's less cooling time between shots. This could even be enough to stop making modded controllers worthwhile, making everyone happy.

Maybe it wouldn't be such a problem for you if you spent more time playing the game instead of crying on the forums.

I feel like it is one of the most balanced guns in the game, and it requires skill for it to be effective.

It isn't overpowered or underpowered, it has strengths and weaknesses.

Just play the game and quit trying to ruin it for everyone else.

From someone who uses scrambler rifles daily, it takes 4-6 shots to overheat depending on what suit you speced into.

the assault usually never overheats for me.

also scrambler rifles are kinda suckish.

I just did and you are right it looks like. The heat build up mechanism is bugged. I can get 2 more shots firing it fast than I can slow. It'll need to be fixed.

But you are still trying to open up a Nerf train which isn't cool.