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Princeps Marcellus
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Posted - 2013.06.06 00:50:00 -
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Look, I don't know what you experienced, but I was retreating in my Madrugar with all modules offline when someone with a single swarm (that means one shot) killed me. I was at 4000 armor, 100 shields. It seems like an absolutely silly amount of damage. |
Princeps Marcellus
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Posted - 2013.06.06 02:29:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Princeps Marcellus wrote:Look, I don't know what you experienced, but I was retreating in my Madrugar with all modules offline when someone with a single swarm (that means one shot) killed me. I was at 4000 armor, 100 shields. It seems like an absolutely silly amount of damage. What killed you? CBR7? Is that half armor for you? Is that full armor? Need more details.
That wyrmkomi thingy, however you spell it. I have 4% natural skill armor resistance. I have 3 25% active armor hardeners (which were, as mentioned, offline), 6073 max armor, 10XX max shields, and a heavy repper which was also offline. |
Princeps Marcellus
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Posted - 2013.06.06 02:48:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:Harpyja wrote:My standard Gunnlogi can stand up to standard AV fine. It would take a coordinated squad of standard AV to take me, and that's what it should take for each level: roughly one coordinated squad of an equal 'tech' level. Not some lone wolf with proto forges. What is the opposing team expected to do if a full squad of tanks rolls out from the enemy team?
I believe that in a similar situation in EvE, where there's a free world and anyone can do whatever the hell they want, they'd call in the fleet of their own ships, of a similar size and composition to match the enemy fleet.
Of course, this is Dust and not Eve, so in this theoretical situation, if the team defending against the theoretical six well fit prototanks wasn't able to call down their own six tanks to match 'em, they should get pubstomped. Or, alternatively, focus down one tank at a time, since there would only be ten people on that team to defend the tanks, (oh God I apologize for the commas) you could get just six people on AV to lock onto the nearest tank and let 'em rip. If you have six people who are totally specced to take down a tank focus down a single tank, they should be able to bring it down within two or three volleys, with the third volley being overkill.
Huh. This speculation is interesting. What are your thoughts on this? Also, could you lay out your thoughts on the current balance of tanks/AV that we have right now? |
Princeps Marcellus
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:17:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Princeps Marcellus wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Princeps Marcellus wrote:Look, I don't know what you experienced, but I was retreating in my Madrugar with all modules offline when someone with a single swarm (that means one shot) killed me. I was at 4000 armor, 100 shields. It seems like an absolutely silly amount of damage. What killed you? CBR7? Is that half armor for you? Is that full armor? Need more details. That wyrmkomi thingy, however you spell it. I have 4% natural skill armor resistance. I have 3 25% active armor hardeners (which were, as mentioned, offline), 6073 max armor, 10XX max shields, and a heavy repper which was also offline. You didn't mention anything you had.
Fine. This is from before they bumped up vehicle health so some info might be out of date.
Low:
180mm Reinforced Nanofibre Plates (20/928)(20/788.8)
Carapace Armor Hardener (25/5)
Carapace Armor Hardener (25/5)
Carapace Armor Hardener (25/5)
Heavy IG-L Polarized Armor Regenerator (21/896)
High:
F45 Peripheral Damage Control Unit (23/0)
Turrets:
80GJ Railgun (60/900)
AT-1 Cycled Missile Launcher (19/77)
AT-1 Cycled Missile Launcher (19/77)
Now, here are my (relevant) skills:
Vehicle Armor Upgrades III (1.06% Armor resistance)
Vehicle Core Upgrades V (1.05% PG/CPU)
Vehicle Electronics III (1.15% CPU)
Armor Adaptation V (0.85% PG cost of armor hardeners)
Vehicle Armor Plating III (0.91% PG cost of armor plates)
This pushes me into 6073 armor.
Edit: made fairly large changes past the low slots. |
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