DUST Search - CPM Topic: How would you design New Player Experience?

Shady IceCream Truck wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Shady IceCream Truck wrote:

practically every weapon, and game mechanic is broken and you wanna focus on a "new player experience" ?

How bout lets adress the real issues in an honest manner? Iron wolf guy, I dont see you over on the MD thread.. or any other thread that matters.. IMHO

Sir, may I sharply remind you that the teams involved in fixing things and balance are separate from the team you have been given in this scenario. Your team works independently and are experts at creating and adjusting new systems. Not bug fixing, not weapon balancing, not vehicle balancing; other teams will be responsible for those tasks, your team's focus is to improve NPE.

I also read through dozens of threads on features and ideas, I don't typically always reply to them because majority of them are 'dead horse' topics. Topics that have which, exhausted all complaints, concerns, and almost all solutions and are painfully made aware by CCP. The purpose of this entire thread is to focus on a feature and stir something new up.

Also a quick search would reveal I have already commented on the mass driver, laser rifle, state of vehicles and few other choice topics and urge some level of patience, understanding, and less vitriol in your breakfast.

and what team are you on? Seems to be some missing team members


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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4904	Posted - 2013.06.05 17:14:00 - [1] - Quote Today's Scenario: Let us pretend you are the guy in charge in designing the entire new player experience. Draft a plan on improving, designing, goal setting, or storyboarding the entire experience. Use whatever means possible for in the game. Remember you are trying improve a section of the game for a player who doesn't know anything about Dust 514 and introduce the player to the ins and out of this game without having to leave the boundaries of the game. This thread is being watched so be thoughtful on your replies.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4907	Posted - 2013.06.05 18:31:00 - [2] - Quote Shley Ashes wrote: Liking the suggestions, the only thing I'd like is that they be voiced by Aura (Eve Online's AI) Also a fittings tutorial video that is in depth, where it covers the Lore behind each race's characteristics, saying Caldari(shield and Railgun/Missile) orientated because, a new player isn't going to know that, I would like to remind our current battle AI is NOT Aura as confirmed by CCP Eterne.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4913	Posted - 2013.06.05 22:18:00 - [3] - Quote Refined the wording on the op a bit. What I really want from you guys is total freedom and creativity on the subject of improving New Player Experince.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4959	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:36:00 - [4] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: My God. How much space have I got to write this down!! At work at the moment but when I get home and have the time expect an essay. Take as many posts as you need to but make it a good sale, don't want to bore the readers.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4959	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:56:00 - [5] - Quote Shady IceCream Truck wrote: practically every weapon, and game mechanic is broken and you wanna focus on a "new player experience" ? How bout lets adress the real issues in an honest manner? Iron wolf guy, I dont see you over on the MD thread.. or any other thread that matters.. IMHO Sir, may I sharply remind you that the teams involved in fixing things and balance are separate from the team you have been given in this scenario. Your team works independently and are experts at creating and adjusting new systems. Not bug fixing, not weapon balancing, not vehicle balancing; other teams will be responsible for those tasks, your team's focus is to improve NPE. I also read through dozens of threads on features and ideas, I don't typically always reply to them because majority of them are 'dead horse' topics. Topics that have which, exhausted all complaints, concerns, and almost all solutions and are painfully made aware by CCP. The purpose of this entire thread is to focus on a feature and stir something new up. Also a quick search would reveal I have already commented on the mass driver, laser rifle, state of vehicles and few other choice topics and urge some level of patience, understanding, and less vitriol in your breakfast.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4959	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:09:00 - [6] - Quote Shady IceCream Truck wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shady IceCream Truck wrote: practically every weapon, and game mechanic is broken and you wanna focus on a "new player experience" ? How bout lets adress the real issues in an honest manner? Iron wolf guy, I dont see you over on the MD thread.. or any other thread that matters.. IMHO Sir, may I sharply remind you that the teams involved in fixing things and balance are separate from the team you have been given in this scenario. Your team works independently and are experts at creating and adjusting new systems. Not bug fixing, not weapon balancing, not vehicle balancing; other teams will be responsible for those tasks, your team's focus is to improve NPE. I also read through dozens of threads on features and ideas, I don't typically always reply to them because majority of them are 'dead horse' topics. Topics that have which, exhausted all complaints, concerns, and almost all solutions and are painfully made aware by CCP. The purpose of this entire thread is to focus on a feature and stir something new up. Also a quick search would reveal I have already commented on the mass driver, laser rifle, state of vehicles and few other choice topics and urge some level of patience, understanding, and less vitriol in your breakfast. and what team are you on? Seems to be some missing team members The one that may or may not take you seriously. Based on your latest comments; the latter.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4959	Posted - 2013.06.07 16:19:00 - [7] - Quote Shady IceCream Truck wrote: ya well I see that you are trying to be constructive and change the topic etc.. fine But maybe you need to beat a dead horse once in a while, because if you don't nobody with a cute 'dev tag' will.. and its either that or you continue wasting your time typing pages of nonsense that wont matter because nobody is playing the game anymore.. And ya the only reason im here is to make that point, now ill leave your thread alone.. Those 'nobodies' with the dev tag dead horsed the subject for us most of the time no need to re-dead the horse again for them if they're already aware and already working on a fix or the latter the fix is waiting on code deployment. My goal in FnI is to find the the one horse that is still alive to beat to death, which is far harder than you think at times.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4986	Posted - 2013.06.08 18:27:00 - [8] - Quote Shady IceCream Truck wrote: wow this is the guy who is supposed to be supporting and liason between CCP and community? If you disagree with him or make him look like the fool that he is.. He will delete your post somehow.. then he will edit what he originally said.. You sir ar a tool, and nobody in this community thinks you are doing anything useful.. Keep on deleting stuff .. FTW Sir, may kindly I remind you that this is damaging your voice very much because I came here to this thread to see how people want to redo the NPE stuff and you're in here crying like a 5 year old with a geostationary tantrum because nobody is paying attention to you enough to buy you a lollipop. No matter how far they walk away, you maintain the same amount of distance. If you have complaints about the game post a thread elsewhere. As CPM I have the full ability to ignore people like yourself. People who have consistently deemed themselves destructive, unhelpful, or truly disinterested in the game's welfare. If you want to be respected by a CPM you need to approach them with respect. They're busy people and most of the time do not have time to waste on people like yourself. If I had to choose between which time I can spend with rather sit down with the guy spewing numbers and charts on what is wrong with the game than a whiny guy that doesn't understand that MDs are programmatically broken and cannot be fixed until the next patch. Also may I ultimately remind you the only difference between me and you as a player outside of the conversation opportunities with CCP. Is the tag little CPM Tag here on the forums. Thats it. I get nothing else special. I get no powers, I cannot delete posts, I get nothing. I cannot sticky threads, I cannot lock threads, I cannot moderate, that is not my job. I would hate to see this thread locked by the GMs because of your constant derailing.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4988	Posted - 2013.06.08 20:33:00 - [9] - Quote I am liking many of the ideas here. Please keep up the good work people.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5024	Posted - 2013.06.10 17:36:00 - [10] - Quote The reason why you would use a text tutorial is for cheaper and quicker globalization. As spoken tutorials do require revoice acting everyone

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5073	Posted - 2013.06.11 21:56:00 - [11] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The reason why you would use a text tutorial is for cheaper and quicker globalization. As spoken tutorials do require revoice acting everyone That sir, is why we have Subtitles for the folks who speak differing Languages While true, ccp has already made efforts to localize Athena to other languages. As long as the voiced tutorials remain generic enough to be 'future proofed' it should be decent.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6494	Posted - 2013.07.24 22:27:00 - [12] - Quote Thank you guys for replying Ill have to make a report on this soon enough but first I have to burn though the AMA. Thank you for keeping this bumped and help spread the word. Link other ideas if you have to.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 6786	Posted - 2013.07.30 23:36:00 - [13] - Quote Beyobi wrote: Has no one at CCP played an fps before? Is developing a simple player tutorial so mind boggling that you feel the need to ask questions? FFS have some gumption and get this simple stuff fleshed out internally. Don't people have fortitude and ability anymore? Stop asking stupid questions and start showing us you know a thing or two about games. Stand firm and be confident in your abilities damnit! The more CCP second guesses themselves, the more I second guess CCP. Put the safety scissors and playdough away, pull up your pants, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Show us your ability to get simple things done. Tl;Dr here's your stupid tutorial references: Killzone 2-3, tutorial interweaved with first mission/story EvE Online, multiple tutorials taken on at the players discretion. Red Alert 3, simple story arc that layers commands and abilities in a mild progression HEY CCP!!! No more stupid questions. Deal? Why don't you write a tutorial and let me tear it apart as to why its bad and you will see how much harder it is. :P Anyways Drafting a Report together quite a few replies and other threads to pour over so bleh probably more work than the AMA was.