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Blade Achura
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:02:00 -
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"Sup n00bz!" Do you hate being called a noob? Do you wish you could stop making those Rookie mistakes that can get you a 0 - 15 K/D Ratio? Well, Just follow these steps to guarantee that you will never be called "A n00b" Again! So just follow these Simple tips that will make you an asset in New Eden.
DISCLAIMER: SOME OF THE OBOVE TEXT IS NOT TRUE, YOU WILL ALWAYS BE CALLED A NOOB... NO MATTER WHAT.
Ok, Lets do this by the numbers...
1. Never jump in a LAV right at the start of the match and drive STRAIGHT to the enemys MCC. (You will be killed in minutes or seconds)
2. Never buy stuff you can't afford... Before you can buy the 'Good Stuff' you got to get good stats in battle. (Thats why you are reading this)
3. Try to never to go Solo... If you spawn solo, Try to get to a group of allied players (Not enemys ) before making any moves that will risk life or death.
4. Be patient... When in a battle, You never want to try to hack every single thing in the map in under a few minutes. Try to separate time between you hack last time, And when you hack now by atleast 5 minutes.
5. Try to stay out of the way... When you are next to a heavy (Which is getting nerfed next update ) Give him some space and cover his 6! (His ass)
6. Never go jackass... Don't try to make a bunch of failed attempts at trolling your squad, And do something useful
7. The SECOND you see a MCC cannon (The Flags) get hacked, Get your squad and surround it till you know there are no enemys in the local area.
8. If you have a mic, Use it, It will make you better by 50% And also, Corporations LOVE people who have them.
9. Don't make this a another damn 'COD' game... If you are reading this, and have no FPS experience but COD. I have a quick little note to you. Don't F*** up this awesome game by spreading the hacks, Modded controller, And the "qUik sCOpe" BullShit!
10. And if you still suck, And can't seem to have fun. Then go play COD and have fun there! It takes no skill whats so ever!
Thanks for reading! I have been playing this game for exactly 1 year (E3 2012) And have never seen a better community!
If you have any questions, Post them in the comments below and I will answer them all. |
Asmodeus Reinhart
Ninth Rim
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Posted - 2013.06.05 17:41:00 -
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Not only is this "guide" relatively useless. The vast majority of your remarks are childish and inflammatory shots at COD players. I think it's pretty funny that you assume all COD players only play COD. Or have no skill.
Perhaps you just cannot hack it in COD and you need a game that has an abundance of health, shields, and gear to get you by.
As for the points about the "great community". Why don't you actually contribute to it by discussing modules for assault suits. Weapons, what is effective in smaller roles. How about some discussion on good sidearms. Where to spend those initial skill points. What skills will matter the most for an "assault suit" player. What racial bonuses are the most effective with certain load outs.
Instead it's don't drive LAV's. Stay in a group. "don't do anything stupid". And don't hack objectives for 5 minutes?
I'm sorry. But SP = WP and objectives getting hacked = WP. If this is a skirmish map I want everyone on every objective they can hold and constantly hacking and harassing the ones they can't - as it draws the enemy into disarray.
This is trolling garbage. All of it.
If you think anything you just typed was useful to anyone new to this game your mother must have promptly walked outside after your birth and chucked you against the pavement repeatedly. |
Blade Achura
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:37:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:Not only is this "guide" relatively useless. The vast majority of your remarks are childish and inflammatory shots at COD players. I think it's pretty funny that you assume all COD players only play COD. Or have no skill.
Perhaps you just cannot hack it in COD and you need a game that has an abundance of health, shields, and gear to get you by.
As for the points about the "great community". Why don't you actually contribute to it by discussing modules for assault suits. Weapons, what is effective in smaller roles. How about some discussion on good sidearms. Where to spend those initial skill points. What skills will matter the most for an "assault suit" player. What racial bonuses are the most effective with certain load outs.
Instead it's don't drive LAV's. Stay in a group. "don't do anything stupid". And don't hack objectives for 5 minutes?
I'm sorry. But SP = WP and objectives getting hacked = WP. If this is a skirmish map I want everyone on every objective they can hold and constantly hacking and harassing the ones they can't - as it draws the enemy into disarray.
This is trolling garbage. All of it.
If you think anything you just typed was useful to anyone new to this game your mother must have promptly walked outside after your birth and chucked you against the pavement repeatedly.
Ok first of all, The COD jokes were towards people who yell in the public chat "F*** you losers" and the never plays Dust again after only making in the merc quarters... And besides, If they came to this far to a Tutorial, Cudos to them for atleast trying. And also, The "n00b" remarks were just a joke... But, However. I did use it to much, And im sorry. And im going to cut back on the immaturity and just focus on the Tutorials. And BTW. My Tip to wait every 5 minutes before you cap is to make sure you are patient in the battle (Also one of the tips). Again, Im sorry for the immaturity, And will for now on make mature posts... |
Blade Achura
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:45:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:Not only is this "guide" relatively useless. The vast majority of your remarks are childish and inflammatory shots at COD players. I think it's pretty funny that you assume all COD players only play COD. Or have no skill.
Perhaps you just cannot hack it in COD and you need a game that has an abundance of health, shields, and gear to get you by.
As for the points about the "great community". Why don't you actually contribute to it by discussing modules for assault suits. Weapons, what is effective in smaller roles. How about some discussion on good sidearms. Where to spend those initial skill points. What skills will matter the most for an "assault suit" player. What racial bonuses are the most effective with certain load outs.
Instead it's don't drive LAV's. Stay in a group. "don't do anything stupid". And don't hack objectives for 5 minutes?
I'm sorry. But SP = WP and objectives getting hacked = WP. If this is a skirmish map I want everyone on every objective they can hold and constantly hacking and harassing the ones they can't - as it draws the enemy into disarray.
This is trolling garbage. All of it.
If you think anything you just typed was useful to anyone new to this game your mother must have promptly walked outside after your birth and chucked you against the pavement repeatedly.
Again, Sorry for the imaturity. I edited the tips, Please post any suggestions in the comments.
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Asmodeus Reinhart
Ninth Rim
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Posted - 2013.06.05 19:32:00 -
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I'm waiting on a respec for this character. I have built 2 alts. One is an assault suit caldari and a heavy.
I am really trying to decide what to make this one as I cannot STAND the light suits / scouts that I spec'd into. Among other stupid "I have no idea what I'm doing" SP purchases.
I have since learned a lot about the game. Get invited into other corps chats to play all kinds of games and have found ways to be useful in different situations despite my bad use of SP on this character.
That said. I have been reading a lot of the class specific tutorials to learn more. If you have a year on Dust. And have something to specifically discuss like Assault suits.
I want to hear it.
Especially if it's an actual noobie guide to a starter assault suit and how to be viable as soon as you possibly can.
Maybe some suit topics. Granted these are usually covered in other guides. Maybe something in regards to; or very specific to - an assault suit. Tie in things pertinent to the medium suits. Modules that are important. Things you need right off the bat, and thing that can wait. The medium suits are very versatile and the assault tier 1 suit comes with a lot of CPU / PG space that allow you to double into logi type gameplay in the beginning while you are just getting started if you are getting your butt kicked.
Telling people not to be "stupid" is one thing. Telling people exactly how NOT to be stupid is another thing entirely. I would prefer someone with a year of experience to do the latter.
Some of us COD guys have played Killzone, and other objective type games and enjoy them too. But I can drop into a KZ match, pick a class and fully understand my "job" on the battlefield. How I rank up, and how I unlock class specific bonuses to make me more effective. It is VERY straight forward. Dust is NOT.
And while I have probably somewhere around a 100+ matches under my belt at this point if not more. I am still uncertain exactly the assault class is "doing" aside from shooting people. Snipers snipe, logi's heal and resup, heavies tank and otherwise poop on people.
As an assault class in an ASSAULT SUIT. Should I be spec'ing into a gun as far as I can and adding damage modifiers? Am I just a "shooter"? And there's nothing wrong with that. I have no problem running point and being "the shooter". I do it ALL the TIME in other games because I'm good at shooting people in their dumb little faces.
Should I be doubling into A/V duties?
This is the stuff as a veteran you need to put out there. So if you know it. Let's hear it. |
billy kirkland
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.06.06 02:27:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:I'm waiting on a respec for this character. I have built 2 alts. One is an assault suit caldari and a heavy.
I am really trying to decide what to make this one as I cannot STAND the light suits / scouts that I spec'd into. Among other stupid "I have no idea what I'm doing" SP purchases.
I have since learned a lot about the game. Get invited into other corps chats to play all kinds of games and have found ways to be useful in different situations despite my bad use of SP on this character.
That said. I have been reading a lot of the class specific tutorials to learn more. If you have a year on Dust. And have something to specifically discuss like Assault suits.
I want to hear it.
Especially if it's an actual noobie guide to a starter assault suit and how to be viable as soon as you possibly can.
Maybe some suit topics. Granted these are usually covered in other guides. Maybe something in regards to; or very specific to - an assault suit. Tie in things pertinent to the medium suits. Modules that are important. Things you need right off the bat, and thing that can wait. The medium suits are very versatile and the assault tier 1 suit comes with a lot of CPU / PG space that allow you to double into logi type gameplay in the beginning while you are just getting started if you are getting your butt kicked.
Telling people not to be "stupid" is one thing. Telling people exactly how NOT to be stupid is another thing entirely. I would prefer someone with a year of experience to do the latter.
Some of us COD guys have played Killzone, and other objective type games and enjoy them too. But I can drop into a KZ match, pick a class and fully understand my "job" on the battlefield. How I rank up, and how I unlock class specific bonuses to make me more effective. It is VERY straight forward. Dust is NOT.
And while I have probably somewhere around a 100+ matches under my belt at this point if not more. I am still uncertain exactly the assault class is "doing" aside from shooting people. Snipers snipe, logi's heal and resup, heavies tank and otherwise poop on people.
As an assault class in an ASSAULT SUIT. Should I be spec'ing into a gun as far as I can and adding damage modifiers? Am I just a "shooter"? And there's nothing wrong with that. I have no problem running point and being "the shooter". I do it ALL the TIME in other games because I'm good at shooting people in their dumb little faces.
Should I be doubling into A/V duties?
This is the stuff as a veteran you need to put out there. So if you know it. Let's hear it.
I spec'd right into the tier one assault suit. Popped into an assault rifle and then worked on shield and armor extenders. Got into grenades a little then I ran out of SP. And that alt is pretty solid to start with. She can use a repair tool, nano hives, or uplinks. And still fight her way into a zone to capture an objective. She's not very special at anything. But can use anything well enough to help in any situation a little.
That's all I can contribute.
So I haven't been playing very long but I think your right about the assult from what I can tell its to shoot people in the face and to support your team. Also id say there a better class for grabbing hack points. But really I think that's it for our role as assault. And right now I'm just working on getting enough SP to get all the skills for better stuff and saving my SKI so the ill have the money to kick some faces in but that's just me and my advice really up to you. |
Blade Achura
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:35:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:I'm waiting on a respec for this character. I have built 2 alts. One is an assault suit caldari and a heavy.
I am really trying to decide what to make this one as I cannot STAND the light suits / scouts that I spec'd into. Among other stupid "I have no idea what I'm doing" SP purchases.
I have since learned a lot about the game. Get invited into other corps chats to play all kinds of games and have found ways to be useful in different situations despite my bad use of SP on this character.
That said. I have been reading a lot of the class specific tutorials to learn more. If you have a year on Dust. And have something to specifically discuss like Assault suits.
I want to hear it.
Especially if it's an actual noobie guide to a starter assault suit and how to be viable as soon as you possibly can.
Maybe some suit topics. Granted these are usually covered in other guides. Maybe something in regards to; or very specific to - an assault suit. Tie in things pertinent to the medium suits. Modules that are important. Things you need right off the bat, and thing that can wait. The medium suits are very versatile and the assault tier 1 suit comes with a lot of CPU / PG space that allow you to double into logi type gameplay in the beginning while you are just getting started if you are getting your butt kicked.
Telling people not to be "stupid" is one thing. Telling people exactly how NOT to be stupid is another thing entirely. I would prefer someone with a year of experience to do the latter.
Some of us COD guys have played Killzone, and other objective type games and enjoy them too. But I can drop into a KZ match, pick a class and fully understand my "job" on the battlefield. How I rank up, and how I unlock class specific bonuses to make me more effective. It is VERY straight forward. Dust is NOT.
And while I have probably somewhere around a 100+ matches under my belt at this point if not more. I am still uncertain exactly the assault class is "doing" aside from shooting people. Snipers snipe, logi's heal and resup, heavies tank and otherwise poop on people.
As an assault class in an ASSAULT SUIT. Should I be spec'ing into a gun as far as I can and adding damage modifiers? Am I just a "shooter"? And there's nothing wrong with that. I have no problem running point and being "the shooter". I do it ALL the TIME in other games because I'm good at shooting people in their dumb little faces.
Should I be doubling into A/V duties?
This is the stuff as a veteran you need to put out there. So if you know it. Let's hear it.
I spec'd right into the tier one assault suit. Popped into an assault rifle and then worked on shield and armor extenders. Got into grenades a little then I ran out of SP. And that alt is pretty solid to start with. She can use a repair tool, nano hives, or uplinks. And still fight her way into a zone to capture an objective. She's not very special at anything. But can use anything well enough to help in any situation a little.
Good wording. And just to let you know, This is not the only tutorial I will be posting. And this post was mostly focused on the in combat part, Not for SP and ISK systems and when a when not you should spend it. I will post that. "SOONGäó"
That's all I can contribute.
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Blade Achura
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:36:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:I'm waiting on a respec for this character. I have built 2 alts. One is an assault suit caldari and a heavy.
I am really trying to decide what to make this one as I cannot STAND the light suits / scouts that I spec'd into. Among other stupid "I have no idea what I'm doing" SP purchases.
I have since learned a lot about the game. Get invited into other corps chats to play all kinds of games and have found ways to be useful in different situations despite my bad use of SP on this character.
That said. I have been reading a lot of the class specific tutorials to learn more. If you have a year on Dust. And have something to specifically discuss like Assault suits.
I want to hear it.
Especially if it's an actual noobie guide to a starter assault suit and how to be viable as soon as you possibly can.
Maybe some suit topics. Granted these are usually covered in other guides. Maybe something in regards to; or very specific to - an assault suit. Tie in things pertinent to the medium suits. Modules that are important. Things you need right off the bat, and thing that can wait. The medium suits are very versatile and the assault tier 1 suit comes with a lot of CPU / PG space that allow you to double into logi type gameplay in the beginning while you are just getting started if you are getting your butt kicked.
Telling people not to be "stupid" is one thing. Telling people exactly how NOT to be stupid is another thing entirely. I would prefer someone with a year of experience to do the latter.
Some of us COD guys have played Killzone, and other objective type games and enjoy them too. But I can drop into a KZ match, pick a class and fully understand my "job" on the battlefield. How I rank up, and how I unlock class specific bonuses to make me more effective. It is VERY straight forward. Dust is NOT.
And while I have probably somewhere around a 100+ matches under my belt at this point if not more. I am still uncertain exactly the assault class is "doing" aside from shooting people. Snipers snipe, logi's heal and resup, heavies tank and otherwise poop on people.
As an assault class in an ASSAULT SUIT. Should I be spec'ing into a gun as far as I can and adding damage modifiers? Am I just a "shooter"? And there's nothing wrong with that. I have no problem running point and being "the shooter". I do it ALL the TIME in other games because I'm good at shooting people in their dumb little faces.
Should I be doubling into A/V duties?
This is the stuff as a veteran you need to put out there. So if you know it. Let's hear it.
I spec'd right into the tier one assault suit. Popped into an assault rifle and then worked on shield and armor extenders. Got into grenades a little then I ran out of SP. And that alt is pretty solid to start with. She can use a repair tool, nano hives, or uplinks. And still fight her way into a zone to capture an objective. She's not very special at anything. But can use anything well enough to help in any situation a little.
That's all I can contribute.
Good wording. And just to let you know, This is not the only tutorial I will be posting. And this post was mostly focused on the in combat part, Not for SP and ISK systems and when a when not you should spend it. I will post that. "SOONGäó"
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dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
58
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:44:00 -
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From my time as an assault and now respecced into a 'better' assault i.e. caldari logi (i'm joiking), here are some general tips for new players:
1. Your role is fairly straightforward, shoot people in the face, protect your logis and scouts when they're hacking, support your heavy. If your gun game isn't that good, focus on helping your teammates our by watching their backs when they're hacking, covering the flanks of the heavies. Don't rush to the front of a firefight as a new player, since your dropsuiit may not be very durable compared with the enemies you may be facing. Your assault rifles etc. have longer ranges than a heavies HMG, so let the heavies soften up a crowd and draw enemy fire before you pop up and help pick the stragglers off. Don't spray and pray as it's not very effective with low skills in dispersion and kick reduction.
2. Carry equipment to compliment your squad. This means, if you have 1 or 2 logis in your squad, swap out that nanohive for a needle. The needle will help pick up fallen logis, who in turn supply you with nanohives. For skirmish games, try running remote explosives as well since those give you free kills. Drop uplinks are an easy source of WP (+25 WP each spawn), but don't place them all over the place stupidly. A good spawn is worth its weight in gold and frees up an equipment slot for your logibros as well. Coordinate pre-match with your logibros.
3. Don't rush in blindly, until you get more durable, or better gun game. If you start taking damage, run back towards your team/squad, and draw those reds into an ambush. Many new players make the mistake of continuing to push even when they've had all their shields and half their armor wiped out already. Retreat and let your shields have time to recharge, especially if your armor is damaged already.
4. Communicate, or at least listen. Try to get a mic if you can. Call out targets if you see them. If you see people flanking your team, let them know. If you see an objective being hacked, call it out in case people missed it. Spot an LAV roaming around that open area where some teammates are? Let them know. Saw a RDV drop in a tank or dropship for the enemy, let them know about it. Sniper takes out your shields, call out them sniper, and his/her position if you can. However, DON'T be that guy in a pickup squad that keeps nattering throughout the game, from my perspective it's cool to ask questions but if you keep yapping away, cussing in your mic when you get shot etc., and you're in a random squad, you WILL get muted.
5. Understand fits, weapons and dropsuits. Don't worry about what gun is best to use with assault suits. Just focus on what you enjoy using and what you're good at. Assault rifles are the bread and butter of FPS, so if you're comfortable using those, go for it. Sniper rifles are OK, but if you're not contributing much to the battle if you're hiding up in the mountains getting 5 kills in total in a skirmish. Shotguns can be nasty in city maps, learn to use them, or avoid them. Speccing into your weapon tree will unlock better weapons, and most importantly the proficiency skills give you additional damage to your weapon.
Tank > Gank. Train up those dropsuit shield/armor upgrades that give you 5% to shields/armor. If you shield tank, train for extenders, if you armor tank, train for plates. Fitting skills will help with fitting better stuff on cheaper dropsuits but they are skill intensive, so balance out your fit. Stack up your buffer, but always try to keep 1 armor rep in your low slots, unless you're running with a lot of logibros.
6. Check your corners. I can't count the number of times I've sprinted around a corner only to come face to face with a heavy laying down a hail of bullets I can't back away fast enough from. Or a scouting blasting me with a shotgun in the face.
7. Avoid open areas. If you have to traverse them, don't run in a straight line all the time at a constant speed.
8. You do not need to spec into AV, but have 1-2 fits with AV grenades. Grenadier I gives you access to flux, AV and basic locus grenades, use those for reduced fitting costs and carry 3 instead of 2.
9. Always join a squad, even if you have no mic, or just wanna play solo. Your WP will contribute to your team's precision strike, and being able to identify a bunch of people you have the option of running around with and working together is always helpful.
10. If you can't 1v1 against a player the first time, come back with more firepower (team/squadmates). No point dying to the same person in the same situation over and over.
11. At the start of your career, focus on learning how to stay alive rather than get kills.
That's about all of what I can think of without spending too much time, hope if helps new players who want to get into the assault role out!
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FALLON Jace
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.06.06 05:43:00 -
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Quote:1. Never jump in a LAV right at the start of the match and drive STRAIGHT to the enemys MCC. (You will be killed in minutes or seconds)
Better yet, don't jump in the driver's seat at ALL until we've got usable driving controls! |
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Asmodeus Reinhart
Ninth Rim
23
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Posted - 2013.06.06 08:35:00 -
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Dustwaffle saves thread.
You mentioned survivability being more important than perhaps being effective in a fire fight. Could one presume that initially armor and shield upgrades should take precedence over say spec'ing into real assault suits? Or really laying into a weapon tier?
I'm around 1.2M SP at this point and were it not for my idiotic purchasing into the light frame / scout class - which is both expensive and made of tissue paper. I think I would have spec'd hard into (armor) if I stayed gallente and guns. The hard part is that I like a lot of them. And there's still some I would like to try before my respec lands. I am trying to be frugal to get the most out of what I have. But I would happily have scrambler, assault rifle and shotgun classes ready to go at the push of a button. This is the infuriating part of dust to me. I haven't even tried the laser rifle yet or the mass driver. And I wanna.
I'd like to have SMG's cranked up too. Its a good side weapon for the AV class or a heavy suit. But I like the flaylock too. It has decent range and lets me harass people hiding around the edges of things. Its also inherently broken and my shots pass through people all the time. But when it works it works.
The fact I have to really choose a weapon sucks. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
60
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Posted - 2013.06.06 09:56:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:Dustwaffle saves thread.
You mentioned survivability being more important than perhaps being effective in a fire fight. Could one presume that initially armor and shield upgrades should take precedence over say spec'ing into real assault suits? Or really laying into a weapon tier?
I'm around 1.2M SP at this point and were it not for my idiotic purchasing into the light frame / scout class - which is both expensive and made of tissue paper. I think I would have spec'd hard into (armor) if I stayed gallente and guns. The hard part is that I like a lot of them. And there's still some I would like to try before my respec lands. I am trying to be frugal to get the most out of what I have. But I would happily have scrambler, assault rifle and shotgun classes ready to go at the push of a button. This is the infuriating part of dust to me. I haven't even tried the laser rifle yet or the mass driver. And I wanna.
I'd like to have SMG's cranked up too. Its a good side weapon for the AV class or a heavy suit. But I like the flaylock too. It has decent range and lets me harass people hiding around the edges of things. Its also inherently broken and my shots pass through people all the time. But when it works it works.
The fact I have to really choose a weapon sucks. Survivability > offense is my opinion. If you have a great gun game, then by all means spec into weapons first. My reasoning though, is that a lot of the time, you can't control where you get shot from, a random snipe may get you, or someone flanked you or a grenade comes flying in etc. In any case, surviving to run away and regen will help you more than being an extremely good shot in a 1v1. However, for your question, I would say it depends on the SP you have available to you. First things first, at 1.2M SP, I don't recommend going into role specific suits, especially if you're going assault. The medium suit has the same layout, PG/CPU etc, and the only thing you lose out on is the role bonus. IMO, get yourself into adv frame, with enhanced extenders/plating and a basic armor repper. Be careful not to stack too many armor plates as those slow you down a lot.
I don't really have a lot of specific advice on dropsuit fitting as I havent had a chance to run Gallente suits yet, but the gist of it is, more HP buffer = better, as long as you don't sacrifice too much speed. Get your skills up to level 3 each (+5% shields/armor per level), which lets you fit enhanced gear, and work towards complex mods if possible.
Weaponwise, I find the AR familiar to use, and so have specced into that. However, as I mentioned before, it's best to just use something you're comfortable with using. For now, getting advanced weapons will be enough, as you most likely will not have the PG/CPU to fit proto weapons on a basic/advance medium/assault suit, without gimping the rest of your fit by a lot. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
57
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Posted - 2013.06.06 10:03:00 -
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Asmodeus Reinhart wrote:Dustwaffle saves thread.
You mentioned survivability being more important than perhaps being effective in a fire fight. Could one presume that initially armor and shield upgrades should take precedence over say spec'ing into real assault suits? Or really laying into a weapon tier?
I primarily play scout, however I have had many assault fits in the last few builds. My preference is to always make my assault suits as survivable and fast as possible (which provides me greater effectiveness in fire-fights). This extends my time on the field. Some do go for max damage output weapon and a good suit but forgo base stats. They hope that they can stay alive in their good suits (but less than good modules) and their proto weapons by doing a ton of damage and deterring people from getting close enough to threaten them. Overall, this is a risker way to do business because:
1.) it relies on you hitting your target to stay alive 2.) when you die you are loosing more expensive equipment
My preference is to always buff my base skills (Sheild upgrades, sheild extension, armor upgrades, biotic upgrades) and leave the suits and weapons for later. These upgrades make your core suit armor/sheilds higher, and the make your shield modules give higher shield values than what is listed (and you can use better shield modules). the biotic upgrades make you faster. you will be more effective in a militia or standard suit (and less expensive) with these skills at L3 or L4, and good shield extension modules (enhanced or complex) than an advanced suit w/ all standard/militia fittings and no core skills.
Asmodeus Reinhart wrote: I'm around 1.2M SP at this point and were it not for my idiotic purchasing into the light frame / scout class - which is both expensive and made of tissue paper. I think I would have spec'd hard into (armor) if I stayed gallente and guns. The hard part is that I like a lot of them. And there's still some I would like to try before my respec lands. I am trying to be frugal to get the most out of what I have. But I would happily have scrambler, assault rifle and shotgun classes ready to go at the push of a button. This is the infuriating part of dust to me. I haven't even tried the laser rifle yet or the mass driver. And I wanna.
Yeah, this sucks. Definltey use the militia scramber, AR and shotgun instead of putting points into them if you can help it. You may want to plop down a few AUR to try the scram rifle, flaylock, mass driver since there are no militia versions.
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Blade Achura
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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dustwaffle wrote:From my time as an assault and now respecced into a 'better' assault i.e. caldari logi (i'm joiking), here are some general tips for new players:
1. Your role is fairly straightforward, shoot people in the face, protect your logis and scouts when they're hacking, support your heavy. If your gun game isn't that good, focus on helping your teammates our by watching their backs when they're hacking, covering the flanks of the heavies. Don't rush to the front of a firefight as a new player, since your dropsuiit may not be very durable compared with the enemies you may be facing. Your assault rifles etc. have longer ranges than a heavies HMG, so let the heavies soften up a crowd and draw enemy fire before you pop up and help pick the stragglers off. Don't spray and pray as it's not very effective with low skills in dispersion and kick reduction.
2. Carry equipment to compliment your squad. This means, if you have 1 or 2 logis in your squad, swap out that nanohive for a needle. The needle will help pick up fallen logis, who in turn supply you with nanohives. For skirmish games, try running remote explosives as well since those give you free kills. Drop uplinks are an easy source of WP (+25 WP each spawn), but don't place them all over the place stupidly. A good spawn is worth its weight in gold and frees up an equipment slot for your logibros as well. Coordinate pre-match with your logibros.
3. Don't rush in blindly, until you get more durable, or better gun game. If you start taking damage, run back towards your team/squad, and draw those reds into an ambush. Many new players make the mistake of continuing to push even when they've had all their shields and half their armor wiped out already. Retreat and let your shields have time to recharge, especially if your armor is damaged already.
4. Communicate, or at least listen. Try to get a mic if you can. Call out targets if you see them. If you see people flanking your team, let them know. If you see an objective being hacked, call it out in case people missed it. Spot an LAV roaming around that open area where some teammates are? Let them know. Saw a RDV drop in a tank or dropship for the enemy, let them know about it. Sniper takes out your shields, call out them sniper, and his/her position if you can. However, DON'T be that guy in a pickup squad that keeps nattering throughout the game, from my perspective it's cool to ask questions but if you keep yapping away, cussing in your mic when you get shot etc., and you're in a random squad, you WILL get muted.
5. Understand fits, weapons and dropsuits. Don't worry about what gun is best to use with assault suits. Just focus on what you enjoy using and what you're good at. Assault rifles are the bread and butter of FPS, so if you're comfortable using those, go for it. Sniper rifles are OK, but if you're not contributing much to the battle if you're hiding up in the mountains getting 5 kills in total in a skirmish. Shotguns can be nasty in city maps, learn to use them, or avoid them. Speccing into your weapon tree will unlock better weapons, and most importantly the proficiency skills give you additional damage to your weapon.
Tank > Gank. Train up those dropsuit shield/armor upgrades that give you 5% to shields/armor. If you shield tank, train for extenders, if you armor tank, train for plates. Fitting skills will help with fitting better stuff on cheaper dropsuits but they are skill intensive, so balance out your fit. Stack up your buffer, but always try to keep 1 armor rep in your low slots, unless you're running with a lot of logibros.
6. Check your corners. I can't count the number of times I've sprinted around a corner only to come face to face with a heavy laying down a hail of bullets I can't back away fast enough from. Or a scouting blasting me with a shotgun in the face.
7. Avoid open areas. If you have to traverse them, don't run in a straight line all the time at a constant speed.
8. You do not need to spec into AV, but have 1-2 fits with AV grenades. Grenadier I gives you access to flux, AV and basic locus grenades, use those for reduced fitting costs and carry 3 instead of 2.
9. Always join a squad, even if you have no mic, or just wanna play solo. Your WP will contribute to your team's precision strike, and being able to identify a bunch of people you have the option of running around with and working together is always helpful.
10. If you can't 1v1 against a player the first time, come back with more firepower (team/squadmates). No point dying to the same person in the same situation over and over.
11. At the start of your career, focus on learning how to stay alive rather than get kills.
That's about all of what I can think of without spending too much time, hope if helps new players who want to get into the assault role out!
Thanks for the suggestions.
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