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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:49:00 -
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First turn off after playing for an hour, getting stuck on things. Im sure this is old but im new to the game and I am shocked that after a year of Beta testing, CCP released this game without fixing such rudimentary issues as this. Its odd to me that people have hope for this game when its trying to implement the long term slow methodical SP progression that Eve has in a console FPS. There is a reason COD is king of console shooters and its because people want things now, they want them easily and they are lazy. COD delivers exactly what its consumer base wants and it pays in the billions. PS4 comes out in less than a year and unless this game is being ported which I dont know if it is, adds another level of confusion as to where or why they even started this game. I have other points to make but I will wait to see if I get some community feedback on this before making a wall of text. Any replies are welcome. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:52:00 -
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getting stuck on terrain and near objects is because UE is bulky and it sucks |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
219
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:52:00 -
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I have to ask you where people get this idea that COD players are lazy? Is it just because they dont need to wait for months to be able to use whatever they want or what? Although considering I know guys that played for months just to max out prestige and get a gold skin for their gun the whole they want what they want and they want it now falls apart
Anyway look on the brightside if you were one of the guys that went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this game, there are a ton of great console games you can play that dont have a PC port |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:53:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:getting stuck on terrain and near objects is because UE is bulky and it sucks
I cant even get past the fact that the movement is this bad and they actually released this game after a year of testing.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
494
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:54:00 -
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Try the search feature... |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:55:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:I have to ask you where people get this idea that COD players are lazy? Is it just because they dont need to wait for months to be able to use whatever they want or what? Although considering I know guys that played for months just to max out prestige and get a gold skin for their gun the whole they want what they want and they want it now falls apart
Anyway look on the brightside if you were one of the guys that went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this game, there are a ton of great console games you can play that dont have a PC port
What do you mean "you people" ? Anyways everything about COD is like fast food. But no im glad I didnt buy a console for this game and you are right I am looking forward to some upcoming PS3 games but I wanted this game to be awesome. |
Anuliadon Gortusk
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:55:00 -
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Yes you get stuck on things yes it is a problem...we have read about this problem from every new player and it is justified. As far as COD if you want to play COD, go play it don't look for it in Dust. Dust is not a COD run-n-gun type game nor does it want to be. COD has the market cornered for the extreme casual gamer, eve as you know since you play it is not for everyone just as dust is not for everyone nor does it try to appeal to those extreme casual gamers. But yes the game has plenty of glitches and bugs and short comings no need for your wall of text we have all heard it. I'd encourage you to play the game some more before coming to a final conclusion as Dust can be a really fun game But regardless good luck in Dust or Eve! |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:58:00 -
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While its true that CoD can just recycle that same ol' tired **** they always do I have hope for Dust because its different.
The biggest turn off on CoD is that nothing matters, I don't care about boasting i'm the best, I don't want to have to deal with L33t players pulling the '1v1 me ****" card every 5 seconds to get put down by myself or a supposed noob, I also don't want a game where all I do is run around solo killing things. If I did want that I'd know where to go.
Reason Dust gives me hope is the corporations system. The corporation leadership that has formed may all act like 12yr old kids who just logged onto CoD for the first time but its the players themselves and how they actually try to work together to make something of their corp.
Not only this but the hopes that the EVE dust link will one day become so much more meaningful with entire corporations having to be transported by ships the clusters they fight in, having EVE players build and research our equipment, players being able to work as a corp to shape which direction that group goes in.
In CoD, MAG. etc all you can ever do with the mechanics is fight. With Dust and Eve what you "will" be able to do puts that to shame.
I've heard it said that Dust is a game ahead of its time in its scope. I also know CCP is new to making FPS games. I don't mind waiting or hanging around for another year or so to get this game working right. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
219
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:01:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Delta 749 wrote:I have to ask you where people get this idea that COD players are lazy? Is it just because they dont need to wait for months to be able to use whatever they want or what? Although considering I know guys that played for months just to max out prestige and get a gold skin for their gun the whole they want what they want and they want it now falls apart
Anyway look on the brightside if you were one of the guys that went out and bought a PS3 specifically for this game, there are a ton of great console games you can play that dont have a PC port What do you mean "you people" ? Anyways everything about COD is like fast food. But no im glad I didnt buy a console for this game and you are right I am looking forward to some upcoming PS3 games but I wanted this game to be awesome.
I mean "you people" as in people that always use generalizations about people that play call of duty I find it has a fairly diverse player base and due to a nice variety of game modes can give you the quick TDM fast food type experience or the slow paced tactical experience with modes like hardcore search and destroy
Anyway I think a lot of people wanted this game to be awesome and with the chromosome build it seemed to be on the right track but uprising just killed all of that It would be highly unfortunate if this ended up as Dust 514 Forever, know what I mean |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA
577
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:05:00 -
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our hope stems from the time invested in our chars and we've seen much worse builds than this one |
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Samadhi Shanti
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:06:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:There is a reason COD is king of console shooters and its because people want things now, they want them easily and they are lazy.
So basically what you're saying is you want things now, you want them easily, and you're lazy.
When anyone can get anything at any time, then there is nothing worth having. CoD is garbage. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:08:00 -
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Anuliadon Gortusk wrote:Yes you get stuck on things yes it is a problem...we have read about this problem from every new player and it is justified. As far as COD if you want to play COD, go play it don't look for it in Dust. Dust is not a COD run-n-gun type game nor does it want to be. COD has the market cornered for the extreme casual gamer, eve as you know since you play it is not for everyone just as dust is not for everyone nor does it try to appeal to those extreme casual gamers. But yes the game has plenty of glitches and bugs and short comings no need for your wall of text we have all heard it. I'd encourage you to play the game some more before coming to a final conclusion as Dust can be a really fun game But regardless good luck in Dust or Eve!
Thank you and I will play longer to see everything it has to offer and I wasnt saying this game needs to be like COD. Im just aying there is a reason COD is the console king and its because it appeals to the masses where as this game and its SP commitment will never work on console imo.
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True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:08:00 -
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I think it would be in CCP's be interests to effectively meld to two builds if they could.
Chromosomes Tanks, Aiming, Movement, Drop Ships
Uprisngs- Graphical Advancements, dropsuits, LAV controls, Weapons/Equipment content
Then fill the game out with the Racial Group Tanks, LAVS, dropsuits, Racial Standard weapons. We could help balance those so they can get on to working on those player markets, game modes, and EVE DUST links. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:11:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:There is a reason COD is king of console shooters and its because people want things now, they want them easily and they are lazy. So basically what you're saying is you want things now, you want them easily, and you're lazy. When anyone can get anything at any time, then there is nothing worth having. CoD is garbage.
You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I think it would be in CCP's be interests to effectively meld to two builds if they could.
Chromosomes Tanks, Aiming, Movement, Drop Ships
Uprisngs- Graphical Advancements, dropsuits, LAV controls, Weapons/Equipment content
Then fill the game out with the Racial Group Tanks, LAVS, dropsuits, Racial Standard weapons. We could help balance those so they can get on to working on those player markets, game modes, and EVE DUST links.
Im glad I didnt see this Chromosome build because this would be even more of a letdown. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
168
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:12:00 -
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Why is it that when I play different games, I learn to adapt to the new rules and system of that specific game but CoD players automatically shut down and cry because it's not enough like CoD, expecting the developer to bend over backwards for them. This unwarranted sense of self entitlement will send the FPS genre into the obscurity of fighting games in the late 90's. |
Samadhi Shanti
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:13:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote: You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see.
Funny that you would talk down to people in the same thread that you complain about the game not being dumbed down to your level.
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:15:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see.
Funny that you would talk down to people in the same thread that you complain about the game not being dumbed down to your level.
Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now.
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:17:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Why is it that when I play different games, I learn to adapt to the new rules and system of that specific game but CoD players automatically shut down and cry because it's not enough like CoD, expecting the developer to bend over backwards for them. This unwarranted sense of self entitlement will send the FPS genre into the obscurity of fighting games in the late 90's.
Because thats how it is.
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agustis caesar
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:18:00 -
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I began playing EVE online in May 2003. (check my toon in eve. Name: Sosus Red - inactive atm). I can tell you very confidently that eve had its share of issues in the beginning as well....and that was after years of development.
on an aside, I remember when peak time meant there was 1200 players logged in. |
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S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
99
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:19:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see.
Funny that you would talk down to people in the same thread that you complain about the game not being dumbed down to your level. Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now.
all forums are infested with blind fanbois , dust forums make no exception , so expect fire no matter how valid ur argument is
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
494
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:20:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Why is it that when I play different games, I learn to adapt to the new rules and system of that specific game but CoD players automatically shut down and cry because it's not enough like CoD, expecting the developer to bend over backwards for them. This unwarranted sense of self entitlement will send the FPS genre into the obscurity of fighting games in the late 90's. Because thats how it is.
Sometimes things do eventually change. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:20:00 -
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agustis caesar wrote:I began playing EVE online in May 2003. (check my toon in eve. Name: Sosus Red - inactive atm). I can tell you very confidently that eve had its share of issues in the beginning as well....and that was after years of development.
on an aside, I remember when peak time meant there was 1200 players logged in.
Ya I play Eve as well but im only a 2 year player and thats comparing apples to oranges. You cant compare Eve on PC to a console shooter on PS3. Well you can but the rules arent the same. Console shooters have a limited life. Even the best ones do.
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Samadhi Shanti
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:22:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now.
You aren't really responding to me, you're just using insults to shield your fragile ego. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:23:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote: You must have trouble reading and this conversation is above you im glad to see.
Funny that you would talk down to people in the same thread that you complain about the game not being dumbed down to your level. Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now. all forums are infested with blind fanbois , dust forums make no exception , so expect fire no matter how valid ur argument is
Ya I have lurked for a few days before posting so im aware of the people on here or any forum. Thanks though. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:24:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Once again this is for people with normal responses. Not people who cant seem to read so you best be going now.
You aren't really responding to me, you're just using insults to shield your fragile ego.
Thanks Sigmund Freud lol. The guy who cant read and has a tissue paper ego is calling other people out on...... Ego of all things lol. Just leave already. |
Samadhi Shanti
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:28:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Thanks Sigmund Freud lol. The guy who cant read and has a tissue paper ego is calling other people out on...... Ego of all things lol. Just leave already.
I think it is reasonably obvious that I am literate. Isn't that kind of a silly insult to use in a forum? |
agustis caesar
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:29:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:agustis caesar wrote:I began playing EVE online in May 2003. (check my toon in eve. Name: Sosus Red - inactive atm). I can tell you very confidently that eve had its share of issues in the beginning as well....and that was after years of development.
on an aside, I remember when peak time meant there was 1200 players logged in. Ya I play Eve as well but im only a 2 year player and thats comparing apples to oranges. You cant compare Eve on PC to a console shooter on PS3. Well you can but the rules arent the same. Console shooters have a limited life. Even the best ones do.
Very true. And honestly, CCP should not have pushed the game out as it is. It was released in this state because either:
A. Sony wanted them to release it
B. They needed to try to make some money
I also believe that by the very nature of this game, it is different that other FPS's. WHich, depending on the future quality, may mean it has staying power.
It took EVE a long time to even get 100k subscribers and it keeps growing because it keeps getting better.
With that said, when I first started this game less than two weeks ago I hated it. now, I can see past the flaws and see the potential it has. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:32:00 -
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Samadhi Shanti wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Thanks Sigmund Freud lol. The guy who cant read and has a tissue paper ego is calling other people out on...... Ego of all things lol. Just leave already. I think it is reasonably obvious that I am literate. Isn't that kind of a silly insult to use in a forum?
You are correct. I will change it to reading comprehension issues. You read the first post and all you saw was COD. Now you think I want the game to be like COD when I dont like COD and was merely stating that COD is successful because the majority of the console shooter base wants a game like that. Now lets look at it as you see it...
CODiloveCODIwantthisgametobelikeCODiloveCODCODCODCOD etc. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:34:00 -
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agustis caesar wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:agustis caesar wrote:I began playing EVE online in May 2003. (check my toon in eve. Name: Sosus Red - inactive atm). I can tell you very confidently that eve had its share of issues in the beginning as well....and that was after years of development.
on an aside, I remember when peak time meant there was 1200 players logged in. Ya I play Eve as well but im only a 2 year player and thats comparing apples to oranges. You cant compare Eve on PC to a console shooter on PS3. Well you can but the rules arent the same. Console shooters have a limited life. Even the best ones do. Very true. And honestly, CCP should not have pushed the game out as it is. It was released in this state because either: A. Sony wanted them to release it B. They needed to try to make some money I also believe that by the very nature of this game, it is different that other FPS's. WHich, depending on the future quality, may mean it has staying power. It took EVE a long time to even get 100k subscribers and it keeps growing because it keeps getting better. With that said, when I first started this game less than two weeks ago I hated it. now, I can see past the flaws and see the potential it has.
I agree with everything you said. My only issue is it hasnt even gotten past the getting stuck on things issue let alone the million other things. Thats where I dont see this game surviving and I wish it would. |
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