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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.04 23:23:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Reading these make my feelz sadz :( You'd feel a lot worse if you actually saw what happens in these PC matches ;)
They don't show up most the time Lol
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.05 18:26:00 -
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Shadow McCall wrote:These stories inspired me to play Dust 514. Someone should make a book of these stories. The Rise and Fall of the True Bloods. I don't know this is just really good stuff. The rise: They land grabbed without fighting for it.
The fall: They chest pounded and got slapped for it.
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 17:33:00 -
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Seems RP'iers are throwing the lore of this game out the window completely. We're CLONES - dying on the field means NOTHING - no loss of real life.
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 18:19:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Seems RP'iers are throwing the lore of this game out the window completely. We're CLONES - dying on the field means NOTHING - no loss of real life.
Eventually you run out of clones. Death is temporary only so long as you have a new vessel to move into. Moreover, the experience of death must still present some level of terror. There is always the uncertainty of being GÇ£resurrectedGÇ¥ so to speak as well as the attendant unpleasantness of dying violently. IGÇÖve never died, but I have been stabbed and someone attempted to strangle me while I was sleeping and I would prefer not to relive either experience if at all possible. Moreover, the narrative arc requires consequences of some kind and one of these consequences must be the specter of death. To dismiss this fictional account of war based on a technicality is lazy criticism. So - it's okay to ignore the lore as long as you enjoy the read?
Are you serious? He's writing like every soldiers death is there real one. Even mentions suicides.
You can't RP and ignore the lore - that's not being lazy - that's just plain stupid. Try this in any forum RP and they'll remove your post or ask you to fix it. Lucky for him this isn't a forum RP so the GM's don't care if he makes mistakes.
But that doesn't mean someone can't call him out for doin' a poor representation of the games real lore. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 19:00:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Aramis Madrigal wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Seems RP'iers are throwing the lore of this game out the window completely. We're CLONES - dying on the field means NOTHING - no loss of real life.
Eventually you run out of clones. Death is temporary only so long as you have a new vessel to move into. Moreover, the experience of death must still present some level of terror. There is always the uncertainty of being GÇ£resurrectedGÇ¥ so to speak as well as the attendant unpleasantness of dying violently. IGÇÖve never died, but I have been stabbed and someone attempted to strangle me while I was sleeping and I would prefer not to relive either experience if at all possible. Moreover, the narrative arc requires consequences of some kind and one of these consequences must be the specter of death. To dismiss this fictional account of war based on a technicality is lazy criticism. So - it's okay to ignore the lore as long as you enjoy the read? Are you serious? He's writing like every soldiers death is there real one. Even mentions suicides. You can't RP and ignore the lore - that's not being lazy - that's just plain stupid. Try this in any forum RP and they'll remove your post or ask you to fix it. Lucky for him this isn't a forum RP so the GM's don't care if he makes mistakes. But that doesn't mean someone can't call him out for doin' a poor representation of the games real lore. That your character does not die when all the clones have been depleted is really more of a game design decision that an element of lore. Eventually, death will be permanent. I think it can be reasonably assumed that, at the moment of death, there must be another clone or some storage device available to capture the consciousness of the recently departed. Absent this, the clone dies. Moreover, not every soldier is likely to be a clone merc, making suicide a real possibility. Further, one would also assume that disabling consciousness transfer capability is within the power of the merc, if they so choose. Again, this makes suicide possible. DonGÇÖt make your lack of imagination my problem. Your post seems like a GÇ£I could do better if I wanted to, but I donGÇÖt want toGÇ¥ screed. If you want to critique the original posters writing, go ahead, but donGÇÖt dismiss it based on your very narrow interpretation of what it is to be a clone soldier. If you want to write your own account of fictional war, go ahead. What is tiresome is that youGÇÖre trying to create a blanket covering rule that makes mortality and all of the implied gravity of death off limits for any fiction related to this game. Cheers, Aramis Your stretching the truth to fit a RP. We're all clone soldiers - no corporation will have normal ones - only FW would.
This does bring me to the question of if there's a device that handles the mind transfer and if so - what is it exactly and where would a corp store it for safe keeping? A single facility? Or would there be many?
And I'm not trying to push this guy down for what he's doing - I rather really like it - I'm just pointing out a flaw. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:10:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Aramis Madrigal wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Seems RP'iers are throwing the lore of this game out the window completely. We're CLONES - dying on the field means NOTHING - no loss of real life.
Eventually you run out of clones. Death is temporary only so long as you have a new vessel to move into. Moreover, the experience of death must still present some level of terror. There is always the uncertainty of being GÇ£resurrectedGÇ¥ so to speak as well as the attendant unpleasantness of dying violently. IGÇÖve never died, but I have been stabbed and someone attempted to strangle me while I was sleeping and I would prefer not to relive either experience if at all possible. Moreover, the narrative arc requires consequences of some kind and one of these consequences must be the specter of death. To dismiss this fictional account of war based on a technicality is lazy criticism. So - it's okay to ignore the lore as long as you enjoy the read? Are you serious? He's writing like every soldiers death is there real one. Even mentions suicides. You can't RP and ignore the lore - that's not being lazy - that's just plain stupid. Try this in any forum RP and they'll remove your post or ask you to fix it. Lucky for him this isn't a forum RP so the GM's don't care if he makes mistakes. But that doesn't mean someone can't call him out for doin' a poor representation of the games real lore. You are viewing this like there are an infinite number of clones. When a clone resupply is maybe 150 at a time. When a planet in under attack or like the Eve empires they use real soldiers not clones. Read Dust's official stories. There are only clones for invasion forces or strategic locations ie the places you can actually attack. There isn't enough clones for everyone in any military that's just impossible so I take the point of view as the clones are in reserves for other locations and invasions on strategic locations. Read some of the 514 official stories then come back and tell my that my RP is completely wrong. Your thinking too small, as this is just a corp fight with a few hundred members. When you put thousands or even millions of soldiers in a field their just isn't enough clones. And if you've pushed back to you last city. Where would these clones come from. In real life situations you can't take a planet with 16 people and 150 clones each assault. I want it to feel realistic in the best way I can as clones are for the top tier soldiers Fine fine I admit defeat lol - can't argue with sound logic. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.06 20:34:00 -
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lmao
Now I just sound terrible. I'm going to go feel bad somewhere now while killing people. |
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