Aero Yassavi wrote:Cruor Abominare wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Radioship wrote:If TAR (GLU-5 for example) will have 12 bullets in clip (like it was rumored previously) it will be the same as Laser Rifles right now... useless... regardless of ROF cap.
It takes approx 6 in-body shots for GLU-5 to take down some Proto guy at optimal without damage mods.
So in result this weapon only become viable for very good shooters that uses mouse to perfectly aim.
If you spam it you'l probably end up having more reload time than actualy shooting time :)
Then that would make it work as intended. It's called the tactical rifle, not the spam rifle. Fire your shots wisely. If the GLU-5 takes 6 shots out of 12 to kill then that's 1 kill per clip if you miss half you shots, pretty in-line with everything else. And that's the GLU-5, the Duvolle TAR would still be pretty good. I do not believe you would need some godly aiming. It would not be useless. The Scrambler Rifle can only get off 15 shots before overheating and people do pretty good with that (well, at least I do and I use a DualShock 3).
Except he's wrong. It takes a dozen shot shots to kill a non shitfit proto this is why I hate balancing talks in general, a bunch of shitfitting militia users don't know what the hell they're talking about.
How much damage do the TAR's do? I haven't checked, but somewhere around 80? 12 * 80 = 960.
You telling me people are running around in suits with 960 EHP other than heavies? Please explain what fitting would do this?
Or you could look it and not make **** up like the other loons, glu that we are talking about is about 72 base so 12 shots is 864, or you know just about caldari logi health.
Now tac duv can get to 80 with enough skills and shave off 1 to 2 shots in pure 100% optimal, for a lOt more isk and sp.
Of course realistically you'll want to leverage your extra range over people as much as you can but this can mean up to doubling your amount of hits depending where you are on falloff range.
The hardest thing about dust is that we don't have killboards to post kills to and publicly shame people for bad fitting choices. Thus we end up with a lot of people using bad suits and worse fittings who will think that their terrible fit is viable when it actually just dies to a handful of tac shots.
Though on the 960 hp topic there are plenty of medium suits capable of hitting that hp, theyre just generally bad for other reasons that hp, though you do run into em from time to time.
Heavies certainly have a lot more hp, and all this would is makes them virtually unkillable by tac ars in a reasonable manner.