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XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:51:00 -
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I mean grenades...
"fused locus grenade ISK variant will be deployed to the market and we are aware of the missing variant. This will occur some time after Odyssey deployment.
We apologize for the delay on this particular missing item on the market and are working on resolving it as soon as we can."
For all that is Holy and Just. Please DO NOT deploy these. They need to be completely removed from the game. Completely Taken off market and exchanged to AUR in everyone's assets. If you do not you are making a BIG mistake. Believe me. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
146
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:13:00 -
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I concur with the OP's sentiments. These grenades are an abomination and should be stricken from the server with extreme prejudice. They were okay being included in the merc packs, but having them so easily accessible will be disastrous. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
678
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:30:00 -
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Having used them, I agree.
I did a match using exclusively fused grenades, and went 15/0. Every time someone appeared around a corner it was just *throw-kaboom* +50. |
TheEnd762
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:54:00 -
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+1, Agree.
Just make regular grenades have a 2.5-3 second fuse. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:58:00 -
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Agreed, if not, nerf the damage so they only do 200 damage. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:03:00 -
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^^
200...flux damage...
Or Nerf to = mass driver damage.
I'd rather they just be removed. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
150
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:10:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:^^
200...flux damage...
Or Nerf to = mass driver damage.
I'd rather they just be removed.
Mass driver needs to be doing ~200 splash damage at proto level. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
588
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:26:00 -
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Its wierd.
The weapon engineers of eve online universe seem to work on thier own logic.
Fused locus grenade are extremly efficient anti infantry weapons.
So why oh why has the individuals who are PAID to make up ways of killing the enemy not figured out that:
a) Fused Locus Grenades
plus
b) Gas Propelled Launcher
equals
less enemy soldiers. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
81
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:28:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:XiBravo wrote:^^
200...flux damage...
Or Nerf to = mass driver damage.
I'd rather they just be removed. Mass driver needs to be doing ~200 splash damage at proto level.
The mass driver is a std weapon... |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:11:00 -
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Just looked it up.
Mass Driver:
116 damage
3.0 M radius |
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4198
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:26:00 -
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+1
These things are very imbalanced.
It could be balanced by making it have to trade away the ability to one-hit-kill for its instant detonation, so that it will be a quick way to seriously damage an enemy (or finish off an already damaged one). Its ok to have instant detonation, and its ok to be one-hit-kill, but its NOT ok for it to have both. |
Valentine Crendre
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
22
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:27:00 -
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Absolutely,
The only reason I use Aurum fused grenades is in PC battles. This is because the input lag, framerate, and hit detection are all so horrible and completely screwed, that it is the only way I can effectively get a kill... that, or if they're standing still... I am forced to spam fused grenades. My shotgun is rendered almost useless because of the state of this build, especially in PC matches.
Point is... they are certainly OP if I can get kills with them in a laggy, slow match. It is a "pay-to-win" Item. If they go live as an ISK item, they will be EXTREMELY abused.
Do not release them or nerf the damage to like 250ish HP, like the sleek locus grenades |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:33:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Its wierd.
The weapon engineers of eve online universe seem to work on thier own logic.
Fused locus grenade are extremly efficient anti infantry weapons.
So why oh why has the individuals who are PAID to make up ways of killing the enemy not figured out that:
a) Fused Locus Grenades
plus
b) Gas Propelled Launcher
equals
less enemy soldiers.
That's the idea behind the Mass Driver, except for ***** and giggles you replace 2/3 of the grenades with smoke bombs so they don't do any of that pesky damage to their targets. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 19:39:00 -
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TheEnd762 wrote:Just make regular grenades have a 2.5-3 second fuse.
XXfootnoteXX wrote:Agreed, if not, nerf the damage so they only do 200 damage.
Valentine Crendre wrote:
Do not release them or nerf the damage to like 250ish HP, like the sleek locus grenades
I disagree with these suggestions. |
Draco Cerberus
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:45:00 -
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The fused locus grenades are a terrific weapon. It was a terrible mistake that there aren't isk variants on the market yet. Stop throwing them at me and I might stop throwing them at you. In protest I suggest you just not buy them. Here's why they are good. They explode when they hit something. If they bounce of the wall because you screwed up the throw it's your own fault you are dead. If they hit someone /something they explode. There is no delayed detonation it happens. When someone throws a regular locus grenade they cook it then throw, all the while it may explode in their hand. If someone doesn't cook a locus grenade and tosses it you have to wait to see if it will go off for up to 5 seconds. Sometimes a locus grenade just fizzles, the fused locus never does. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
86
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:59:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:The fused locus grenades are a terrific weapon. It was a terrible mistake that there aren't isk variants on the market yet. Stop throwing them at me and I might stop throwing them at you. In protest I suggest you just not buy them. Here's why they are good. They explode when they hit something. If they bounce of the wall because you screwed up the throw it's your own fault you are dead. If they hit someone /something they explode. There is no delayed detonation it happens. When someone throws a regular locus grenade they cook it then throw, all the while it may explode in their hand. If someone doesn't cook a locus grenade and tosses it you have to wait to see if it will go off for up to 5 seconds. Sometimes a locus grenade just fizzles, the fused locus never does.
I don't understand you... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
582
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Posted - 2013.06.04 21:00:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:The fused locus grenades are a terrific weapon. It was a terrible mistake that there aren't isk variants on the market yet. Stop throwing them at me and I might stop throwing them at you. In protest I suggest you just not buy them. Here's why they are good. They explode when they hit something. If they bounce of the wall because you screwed up the throw it's your own fault you are dead. If they hit someone /something they explode. There is no delayed detonation it happens. When someone throws a regular locus grenade they cook it then throw, all the while it may explode in their hand. If someone doesn't cook a locus grenade and tosses it you have to wait to see if it will go off for up to 5 seconds. Sometimes a locus grenade just fizzles, the fused locus never does. I don't understand you...
that's because 70% of that was wrong and hey they are out now...finally. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.05 05:43:00 -
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Just saw what they unleashed on the game. 600 dmg!!!
#outoftouch |
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