1.) Snipers have the HIGHEST survivability of any infantry
2.) They can snipe from the behind the redline and the MCC
3.) The only counter to a good sniper is another sniper
4.) Prototype sniper rifle is 30k cheaper than prototype ARs

I'm tired of seeing 4, 5, even 6 guys on my team way in the mountains or MCC sniping.

LOL @ prototype sniper costing 2,400 isk.

try it, no seriously.

try to snipe imperfects, have fun with it.

also you forget to mention that the charged rifle is only 2k lol, so i'm guessing you're talking about the 98k kaalkioota, you cannot be talking about the absoloute trash rifle the isshuukone, I didn't think that proto ar rifles we're 120k each.

try it, no seriously.

try to snipe imperfects, have fun with it.

also you forget to mention that the charged rifle is only 2k lol, so i'm guessing you're talking about the 98k kaalkioota, you cannot be talking about the absoloute trash rifle the isshuukone, I didn't think that proto ar rifles we're 120k each.

Calling this rifle trash makes you trash.
I saw people own entire matches using it.
Seriously, my team mates couldn't bring out their heads until I finally took a LAV and run the person over.

1.) Snipers have the HIGHEST survivability of any infantry
2.) They can snipe from the behind the redline and the MCC
3.) The only counter to a good sniper is another sniper
4.) Prototype sniper rifle is 30k cheaper than prototype ARs

I'm tired of seeing 4, 5, even 6 guys on my team way in the mountains or MCC sniping.

Yea the charge is just stupid but the most expensive sniper I see in the market place is 47k

Another sniper hate thread... Though I'll give you creativity points for trying to couch it in
terms of the gear as opposed to tactics.

I don't hate snipers, I've played with awesome snipers who shut down objectives and call out enemy positions. My only problem with them is that there is little risk to being a sniper because they are so cheap compared to other infantry weapons.

Snipers ARE in less risk.
The point of snipers is staying far away from the enemy, limiting risk and increasing the fear of the enemy.

Hence the gear should be more expensive to compensate for ISK vs Reward

how much is your fit because my sniper full fit with a kaal is 130k each(( assuming the 47k comments are right )). charged fit is obviously cheaper at 90k

two deathes and I'm making no profits. risk is involved just as much as anyone else.

logi versions can use full proto mods, they easily run up to 160-170k per fit.

grab a gun and come get me then >.>.

if you don't try to kill me that's not the same as less risk.

So being in the middle of the battlefield where everyone can see you, there may be traps, ambushes, tanks, general combat = sitting on a hill, moving a dot on a screen, pushing R1 and getting a kill?

i dont know which logi suit you run that can fit full proto loadouts... but yes they do get costly running proto suits, i think his complaint is he gets stomped running a proto suit while he distracts the enemy team from the blueberries hiding in the hills.

though admittedly i never ran an assault suit worth more than my sniper fits. because i knew the expected life expectancy of my logi assault loadouts were considerably lower than my sniper fits. which comes to the point of playing within your means and using the gear system to suit your play style. i am terrible at FPS, which is why i rely on logistics points and sniper rifles, because they help overcome my second rate infantry skills.

1.) Snipers have the HIGHEST survivability of any infantry
2.) They can snipe from the behind the redline and the MCC
3.) The only counter to a good sniper is another sniper
4.) Prototype sniper rifle is 30k cheaper than prototype ARs

I'm tired of seeing 4, 5, even 6 guys on my team way in the mountains or MCC sniping.

1.) Snipers have the HIGHEST survivability of any infantry
2.) They can snipe from the behind the redline and the MCC
3.) The only counter to a good sniper is another sniper
4.) Prototype sniper rifle is 30k cheaper than prototype ARs

I'm tired of seeing 4, 5, even 6 guys on my team way in the mountains or MCC sniping.

So being in the middle of the battlefield where everyone can see you, there may be traps, ambushes, tanks, general combat = sitting on a hill, moving a dot on a screen, pushing R1 and getting a kill?

come join NF and you will never have to worry about snipers again

I could say the same thing about a group of 6 players traveling in a pack with modded controllers and logi support.

where's the risk of pub stomping in proto gear?

anyone who tries to kill snipers do, even militia ar users can do it, what can they do agaisnt the pub stompers? why isn't their gear 500k isk a fit?

imperfects are the hardest guys to snipe in the game, they seem to have some form of constantly wobbly rotation going on with their joy stick, it's like they play with a vibrator attached to the control stick. ya you heard me.

Hmm, so you use gear we already know is broken, and an illegal item to use in this game to prove your point?
Good one.

Hmm, so you use gear we already know is broken, and an illegal item to use in this game to prove your point?
Good one.

I don't hate snipers, I've played with awesome snipers who shut down objectives and call out enemy positions. My only problem with them is that there is little risk to being a sniper because they are so cheap compared to other infantry weapons.

i think his point was that people running in proto-pack squads should pay more for their suits, and i assume hes making the assumption that they are also using modded controllers while they do it.

Proto pack requires you to have friends playing with you, coordinating.
Bringing friends SHOULD multiply your power.
Sniping is sitting alone on a hill, moving the crosshair and shooting, doing enough damage to kill anything that isn't a heavy in 1-2 shots.

come join NF and you will never have to worry about snipers again

I team snipe what of it?

I fight in a team multiply my power as well yada yada yada.

we don't have to fight alone, and the fact that pack hunting requires friends and sniping doesn't changes little we are talking about nerfing a weapon based on a tactic aren't we. the specifics of the two tactics matter little in regards to the risk involed.

The point was safety.
Pack hunting makes it safer for an individual, at a greater risk of ISK.
Sniping is already safe, no matter if you have one or 1000 people with you.
Your entire argument is invalid.

no your point is sniping can be safe, if you sit in the hills yes it can be safe, if you snipe about 3 meters behind your AR buddies to help themm win long range engagements, it isn't as safe. if you are facing a good sniper on the other team it isn't safe, if someone has a hard on for rushing you with lav's it isn't safe.

Putting your sniper 3m away from the enemy is called stupidity.
If the person using it has half a brain, he would know how to use it for its intended usage, and that is sniping from a hill being extremely safe.

Putting your sniper 3m away from the enemy is called stupidity.
If the person using it has half a brain, he would know how to use it for its intended usage, and that is sniping from a hill being extremely safe.

I have no issues with enemy snipers, its the fact that there are always like 4 snipers on my team in the redline/MCC which is made worse by the 1/4 of the team being in LAVs.

Sorry Nova but I'm not leaving STB, you're to way to good to be playing with those no life tryhards. You shoulda stayed in STB.