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Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:08:00 -
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We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
181
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:14:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself.
my eyes! |
Adam Average
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
28
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:23:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself.
This. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
52
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:26:00 -
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+1 |
Rogue Saint
Limited Liability
9
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:30:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote: -- true words --
You sir, are a paragon of positiveness!
+1
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Oha Yo
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
69
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:05:00 -
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you have my +1 and also my <3. |
grreen mctree
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:24:00 -
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**** off op |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
580
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:25:00 -
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Wierd.
Loads of epic fail troll threads today.
Must be a fool moon. |
Paladin Sas
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
20
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:27:00 -
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grreen mctree wrote:**** off op
got a Mr. Personality right here |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
147
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:32:00 -
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+1
And if I can add..
Way to many are taking a video game like this one to seriously. It-¦s like the fun factor disappears and something else takes over. People get obsessed in some ways. There are so many people on this forum who need to get a life.
Relax. Lay back and enjoy the game. If not then there is plenty of other games out there to look at. |
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gbghg
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
1980
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:57:00 -
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Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself. my eyes! They fail |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
460
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:03:00 -
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Nice post Ric.
It's always easier to destroy something than to create something. Since many folks here don't have any hope of being able to create something they will work to tear down the efforts of others to make themselves feel better.
Now, that may be psychobabble bull**** but it seems to fit. It's cool to be "against" everything these days. It's also normal to expect instant gratification. The result is all the cryhard negative posting in the forums.
Yay internet! |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
33
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:14:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself.
You sir, are a beacon of positivity in these here forums. Now please forward this to your CRONOS alliance mates QQ-ing about PC timers |
Twisted202
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
48
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:15:00 -
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We all fail and we all succeed. Its the way we act and others act that changes the outcome. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3193
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:24:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Wierd.
Lodes of epic fail troll threads today.
Mast be a fool moon.
Edit: spelling eras on porpoise. Fixed. |
Munin-Frey
Fish Spotters Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:34:00 -
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+1 |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
267
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Posted - 2013.06.02 15:08:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:+1 And if I can add..
Way to many are taking a video game like this one to seriously. It-¦s like the fun factor disappears and something else takes over. People get obsessed in some ways. There are so many people on this forum who need to get a life.
Relax. Lay back and enjoy the game. If not then there is plenty of other games out there to look at. Exactly, man, and I actually made a thread that somewhat touches upon the same things you're talking about here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=83425&find=unread
Crash Monster wrote:Nice post Ric. It's always easier to destroy something than to create something. Since many folks here don't have any hope of being able to create something they will work to tear down the efforts of others to make themselves feel better.
Yeah, man, I think part of the problem also is that when some people actually succeeds at something, a lot of people think that they had some kind of advantage that they don't. Like money or people they knew. Then they go "Oh if I had that and that, I'd do it even better! It's no big deal!" Guys, let's face it: Most of us who are in these forums are basically playing the game of life on easy mode. We have all the tools at our disposal and we have more opportunities than most people in this world will ever have!
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Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
267
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Posted - 2013.06.02 15:10:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:You sir, are a beacon of positivity in these here forums. Now please forward this to your CRONOS alliance mates QQ-ing about PC timers Thanks, man. I appreciate it. As far as the PC timer change goes, I quite honestly think that it's a needed and good change, bro. |
Templar Renegade201
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2013.06.02 15:21:00 -
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+1 to you Ric.
The negativity is getting insane. Constructive critism is good but all this hate and waaaaaaaaaaah!!! Is a bit much. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
120
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Posted - 2013.06.02 15:25:00 -
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So say we all!
+1 |
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Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
274
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:14:00 -
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Templar Renegade201 wrote:+1 to you Ric.
The negativity is getting insane. Constructive critism is good but all this hate and waaaaaaaaaaah!!! Is a bit much. Constructive criticism is absolutely vital and we have a lot of that here too, mostly on the feedback and request section. Being a cunty whiner is a totally different thing though. |
sgtBelson
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
29
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:27:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Wierd.
Loads of epic fail troll threads today.
Must be a fool moon.
Edit: spelling error on purpose.
You spelled 'weird' wrong on purpose?
How clever. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3203
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:36:00 -
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sgtBelson wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Wierd.
Loads of epic fail troll threads today.
Must be a fool moon.
Edit: spelling error on purpose. You spelled 'weird' wrong on purpose? How clever. So you didn't notice "fool" instead of "full"? Or "error" instead of "errors"?
Or my post on the previous page highlighting them far better than you had. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
285
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:38:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself.
Can't make fun of others if you can't make fun of yourself first.
This concept is lost on some people. They're too fragile to make fun of themselves so they circumvent that step and just make fun of others to make themselves feel big and strong.
But then, what do I know?
I do know that I hope CCP succeeds in the longterm, though IMHO, they need to be more open with the community instead of being open with only certain segments of the crowd (**cough**IRC**cough**) and expecting that trickledown and occasional posts by Devs on their forums is "good communication".
Moderation =/= Communication. |
sgtBelson
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
30
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:47:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:So you didn't notice "fool" instead of "full"? Or "error" instead of "errors"?
Or my post on the previous page highlighting them far better than you had.
Sorry, but your overloaded post didn't warrant the attention; though, since you felt the need to post a second "look at me!" response here, I see I need to acknowledge you to avoid witnessing a tantrum.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3203
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:48:00 -
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sgtBelson wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:So you didn't notice "fool" instead of "full"? Or "error" instead of "errors"?
Or my post on the previous page highlighting them far better than you had. Sorry, but your overloaded post didn't warrant the attention; though, since you felt the need to post a second "look at me!" response here, I see I need to acknowledge you to avoid witnessing a tantrum. Well played.
+1. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
284
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:29:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:We all know that the word "fail" is used extensively in a lot of online communities, guys. Stuff like: u fail. fail this. fail that. epic fail. People like to call others out when they don't succeed on something and I don't know about you, guys, but I think that's BS. On top of that, man, I think the people who use these phrases a lot are afraid of trying to be great themselves! You see, guys, what got me thinking about this whole matter is the fact that when I come to Dust 514 forums, man, I see a lot people saying stuff like: "I can't wait to see CCP fail!" or "CCP is a fail company!" What really pisses me off about this whole fail movement is the negativity, man, cause you guys know I'm a positive guy!
Let's talk about CCP for a moment cause we're on Dust 514 forums after all. These are guys who created EVE online from nothing just by having a vision, putting in the hours, working without pay sometimes and believing in the product, man! And, guys, they made all of this while working on a game that nobody else believed has a snowball's chance in hell, because it was the kind of game that had never been done before, and they had some pretty tough competitors working on somewhat similar games. Now they're trying to do something new and groundbreaking again with Dust 514. And some of you guys are calling these guys out for "failing"... I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks that's both weird AND ****** up!
At the end of the day, guys, I guess you could say someone fails at making a game when the game doesn't make a lot of money, but the only way one can fail at life is by never trying to go out there on the line of fire, and trying to do something hard! So stop calling people "fails", stop watching fail compilations and most importantly stop being afraid of failure. Instead of that, look at the people who have succeeded (like CCP) and go out there and be successful yourself. Can't make fun of others if you can't make fun of yourself first. This concept is lost on some people. They're too fragile to make fun of themselves so they circumvent that step and just make fun of others to make themselves feel big and strong. But then, what do I know? I do know that I hope CCP succeeds in the longterm, though IMHO, they need to be more open with the community instead of being open with only certain segments of the crowd (**cough**IRC**cough**) and expecting that trickledown and occasional posts by Devs on their forums is "good communication". Moderation =/= Communication. Good post, bro. Yeah, I definitely agree that CCP could do much better job at communicating with us at times. Then again, that's not an easy job either. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
19
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Posted - 2013.06.03 18:55:00 -
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See the ps3 console community doesn't know CCP, they know EA, Ubisoft, Activison Etc... Basically console developers. They have no clue there use to day one dlc, $60 retail price, $150 special edition, and season pass lol.
The Eve folks like myself knows how CCP operates. Those who stick with dust for the long haul will reap it's benefits, just like the Eve vets who stuck around Eve thru it's up's and downs. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2547
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Posted - 2013.06.03 19:25:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:See the ps3 console community doesn't know CCP, they know EA, Ubisoft, Activison Etc... Basically console developers. They have no clue there use to day one dlc, $60 retail price, $150 special edition, and season pass lol.
The Eve folks like myself knows how CCP operates. Those who stick with dust for the long haul will reap it's benefits, just like the Eve vets who stuck around Eve thru it's up's and downs.
I remember the days when when Eve Online had a **** ton of problems and people kept saying that it's "adapt or die" nature will be its downfall. That was back in 2008 when I first started. |
Ric Barlom
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
290
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Posted - 2013.06.03 21:13:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:KING SALASI wrote:See the ps3 console community doesn't know CCP, they know EA, Ubisoft, Activison Etc... Basically console developers. They have no clue there use to day one dlc, $60 retail price, $150 special edition, and season pass lol.
The Eve folks like myself knows how CCP operates. Those who stick with dust for the long haul will reap it's benefits, just like the Eve vets who stuck around Eve thru it's up's and downs. I remember the days when when Eve Online had a **** ton of problems and people kept saying that it's "adapt or die" nature will be its downfall. That was back in 2008 when I first started. I remember that exact same thing. Now for sure a lot of people refuse to play the game because of that, but it also attracts different type of people. |
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