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Posted - 2013.06.02 08:59:00 -
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EvE players & Open Beta Believers.... That is what is left in Dust 514. The EvE players will most likely never leave. The Open Beta Believers, only going to believe for so long, before they stop believing.
If you want to know who is who, look at the Server population about 2 weeks before Uprising, Those are the EvE players. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:24:00 -
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grreen mctree wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:ShakeMS wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:You know, if you want to leave, just leave. You don't really need to tell everyone else to leave as well... Clearly you can't read. You're going on about how terrible CCP are, and how there shouldn't be 7k players. Clearly you can't read what I said? To be fair ccp are terrible and 7k players online playing this mess is pretty amazing.
Isn't going to take long for that numbers to drop to 2000-3000 players. CCP have to take action right now, to keep the already fragile player base. Anyone that leave the game this early in the Official Release, will most likely never come back. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:38:00 -
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ShakeMS wrote:Adam Average wrote:ShakeMS wrote:Jay Omega wrote:Lol, honestly I sat though mag and before 2.0 it was amazing. Right now dust is like a story to me, and I wanna see how it turns out. This game is fun and is a nice break from cod or other fps. Maybe your just playing the game wrong and that makes you grumpy. This game has it's moments I will give you that. Just read the thread though man. Watch the reviews. There is so many problems done with this game. When I think of the current state of things I picture CCP scrambling around the office screaming WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO?!!?!? The current state of this game is pretty chaotic right now. Which is extremely crazy seeing as the game was just released. We spent all this time testing the game in beta only for them to completely change it and make a brand new game that we haven't tested at all. If anything there should be respec for a few months so we can find all the FOTM (Flavor Of The Month) and get them all nerfed down to where there is complete balance. That is what I would do anyway. Of course I would of done that in the beta state. Some of the player base is actually MAG players. You didn't include them in the percentage. Telling people something is terrible, when they enjoy it, is as hard as it is to tell those who think it is terrible, that it's actually enjoyable. Neither group will ever agree, so why are you wasting your time? I don't include MAG players in my math because they are customers that don't have a biased opinion on CCP products. I wasn't gonna go around and take a poll and say 35% Mag players, 2% Tetris, 9% Socom, ect. Also most of them would probably fall into the % that feel obligated to play this game because they have real cash invested into a game. Nobody is gonna leave a game where they still have cash in boosters, items, or cash currency(Aur) No matter how bad the game is. There are people who enjoy this game no doubt, but there is also a huge% who constantly hate this game. Just because people continue to play it doesn't mean they like it.
It won't be the first time in History that this happen, the difference is; that when other companies have learn from their mistakes, with years of experience making different games. CCP have practically no experience, and they trying to use the same formula that worked "10 YEARS AGO" |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 09:54:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:ShakeMS wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:or you know a lot of people do find this game fun, and dont log onto the forums to be told why they cant be having fun playing dust.
i admit CCP really really drops the ball quite often at the moment. (Templar event = noone would chose to be cannon fodder iv better things to do with my weekend).
that said they have built a game that keeps me logging in everyday the only other game that did that was WoW and i think that was a awful state in its first year of release WoW didn't have a 8 month closed beta and than a 4 month open beta, after the beta process they go out and give you Ultima Online or a completely different game than you have been testing the whole time. AHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ^^ im laughing because WoW had a very long testing phase and launch was basically a beta because it was so unstable. and look at WoW now its nothing like it was back when it first game out, for example it used to world PvP :P.
Sorry... how can you possible compare WoW with Dust 514 ? WoW wasn't perfect at release, but was a complete MMORPG experience...They where, and they still are, the pioneers of the MMO genre, the ones that started the full thing. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:08:00 -
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ShakeMS wrote:This video is my proof. Eve players are biased, out of loyalty for CCP that comes from them playing a game for so long and feeling they have to come over here and try to keep being positive and saying how it has potential how as long as CCP is behind this so will they. They are loyal to CCP and will continue to support Dust because it is not their main game. It is just something they do when they need a break from Eve. The whole I want a game that doesn't end it keeps going forever. How will this game continue to move on if CCP constantly screws up as sure as the sun will come up? In Console there is competition, in CPU they have free run companies aren't making aquarium MMOs right now. Unfortunately for CCP There are quite a few companies that do make PS3-PS4 FPS, 3PS, Massive Online Shooters. None of these have to masquerade as a MMO. I am pretty sure the only reason it is considered a MMO is because it is a "add-on" to a MMO. EDIT- I am pretty sure WoW had more player base than 7k. You guys trying to toss up that Dust514 could be the next WoW is pretty far fetched.
I know right ? Dust 514 isn't good enough to compete with "Blacklight: Tango Down", yet the Fanboys think, that Dust 514 is going to be the next WoW... |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:29:00 -
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Adam Average wrote:ShakeMS wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:ShakeMS wrote:This video is my proof. Eve players are biased, out of loyalty for CCP that comes from them playing a game for so long and feeling they have to come over here and try to keep being positive and saying how it has potential how as long as CCP is behind this so will they. They are loyal to CCP and will continue to support Dust because it is not their main game. It is just something they do when they need a break from Eve. The whole I want a game that doesn't end it keeps going forever. How will this game continue to move on if CCP constantly screws up as sure as the sun will come up? In Console there is competition, in CPU they have free run companies aren't making aquarium MMOs right now. Unfortunately for CCP There are quite a few companies that do make PS3-PS4 FPS, 3PS, Massive Online Shooters. None of these have to masquerade as a MMO. I am pretty sure the only reason it is considered a MMO is because it is a "add-on" to a MMO. EDIT- I am pretty sure WoW had more player base than 7k. You guys trying to toss up that Dust514 could be the next WoW is pretty far fetched. I know right ? Dust 514 isn't good enough to compete with "Blacklight: Tango Down", yet the Fanboys think, that Dust 514 is going to be the next WoW... It just further proves my point yet again. These Eve guys are like ambassadors of CCP. Their job is to come in here and support CCP no matter how god awful this game gets. They will continue to say it's great and throw in insanely dumb things like comparing a game with 7k player base to a game that made MMO world wide famous. I think Ultima Online was the first that got MMOs on the market but no doubt WoW is what made it cool. Ultima Online was good but WoW has just surpassed every bar and set it so high for any MMO. Dust514 is not a MMO. I am slightly becoming more annoyed every time somebody calls it that because they read on the internet that it was a MMO. MMO stands for massively multiplayer online. If we want to get down to what that exactly means, almost any game with online multiplayer support can be considered an MMO. But generally, the one thing that defines an MMO, is if every player exists in a server or servers, and isn't purely lobby based. Maybe the term needs a change, or we need a new acronym.
Counter Strike have an average of 100,000 players online at one giving time, that is a Massive amount of people. Yet you won't hear anyone saying that CS is a MMO. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:37:00 -
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I remember FreeSpace had a similar "Lobby" concept. Which was pretty much a "chat room" where people could squad up, and form teams, before going into battle. That is what Dust 514 is... a "Chat Room". |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 10:49:00 -
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I crack the mystery !! Dust 514 is :
A Massive Online Chat Room / First Person Shooter. ( MOCFPS ) |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:00:00 -
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ShakeMS wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:I crack the mystery !! Dust 514 is :
A Massive Online Chat Room / First Person Shooter. ( MOCFPS ) Pretty much. A % of players admit they only play dust to stay with their friends. They are shooting their gun while visiting with each other.
Dude... I been desperately trying to explain to people, that Dust 514 is NOT a MMO. But EvE players are blind to the truth. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:13:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:ShakeMS wrote:Galvan Nized wrote:Dude I think its time to put the game down for awhile. You have obviously passed that point of anything constructive and have divulged into an end of the world scenario.
We get it you DON'T like the game. There are a lot of good games out there, try those. I don't know if you've invested a ton of money or are a former Eve player or what but I think it is time to cut your losses. We have all done it, tried a game that we realized had too many problems.
Take a break, leave your char with passive sp or just quit and move on to greener pastures. Maybe in a month the game will be fixed and maybe it will be dead but come back and find out. I am one of those players that is obligated because there's a booster running. Still doesn't mean I can't give a honest opinion for others. Why would I allow other people to fall into this cash quicksand? Any smart review points it out. Seriously? All the mindless ranting because because you have a booster running and dont want to leave? Feck man just quit the game if its that bad . you dont need to splurge your opinioon for 8 pages of whine to pass your opinion as justified, just leave, noone cares about you and your opinion especially that 7k players that logs in everyday..... Go away! Now! SHOOOO!! Pathetic attention *****
I have -ú20 in my PSN account right now, that i was going to spend on Dust 514... But with the recent SP respec fiasco, and not expansion announced for any time soon. I going to save that cash, and get one of the great games coming out soon.
Is CCP lost, and someone else gain. That attitude of "leave if you don't like it", doesn't work very well with a F2P game. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:21:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:ShakeMS wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:or you know a lot of people do find this game fun, and dont log onto the forums to be told why they cant be having fun playing dust.
i admit CCP really really drops the ball quite often at the moment. (Templar event = noone would chose to be cannon fodder iv better things to do with my weekend).
that said they have built a game that keeps me logging in everyday the only other game that did that was WoW and i think that was a awful state in its first year of release WoW didn't have a 8 month closed beta and than a 4 month open beta, after the beta process they go out and give you Ultima Online or a completely different game than you have been testing the whole time. AHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ^^ im laughing because WoW had a very long testing phase and launch was basically a beta because it was so unstable. and look at WoW now its nothing like it was back when it first game out, for example it used to world PvP :P. Sorry... how can you possible compare WoW with Dust 514 ? WoW wasn't perfect at release, but was a complete MMORPG experience...They where, and they still are, the pioneers of the MMO genre, the ones that started the full thing. Because hes comparing development issues not game genre you illiterate troll. And just a small reminder eve online is as old as wow so theyve been in the business for as long as the other game Theres a saying in eve "when someone leaves eve for wow, both communities ' iq level rises" You guys should just do that, go back to generic bland shooters so we can raise our iq and you bring back your wonderful intellect to the casual retards
Yeah !! that is the attitude !! Insult the already weak Dust 514 community. How you going to stop people from playing a F2P game ? I still can play any time i want... I just not spending money in the game. Great huh ? |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:25:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:
I have -ú20 in my PSN account right now, that i was going to spend on Dust 514... But with the recent SP respec fiasco, and not expansion announced for any time soon. I going to save that cash, and get one of the great games coming out soon.
Is CCP lost, and someone else gain. That attitude of "leave if you don't like it", doesn't work very well with a F2P game.
WE do NOT care about how you spend your money,its a free world. But if you guys dont like ccp or dust or both, why are you still here? Why are you chained to this thread and keep asking for it. Just surrender and uninstall the game
Is a Free to Play game...As far as it's free, i can't see a reason why i have to uninstall it. Now... spending money on it.. is a different story altogether . |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:30:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah !! that is the attitude !! Insult the already weak Dust 514 community
did you miss the point? Guess you did, there was no insult to the dust community
"go back to generic bland shooters so we can raise our iq and you bring back your wonderful intellect to the casual retards"
To bad Dust 514 is a FPS game huh ? ... I don't think you IQ is very high, i'm sure you believe that it is. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 11:50:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:pew pew youredead wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: Yeah !! that is the attitude !! Insult the already weak Dust 514 community
did you miss the point? Guess you did, there was no insult to the dust community "go back to generic bland shooters so we can raise our iq and you bring back your wonderful intellect to the casual retards" To bad Dust 514 is a FPS game huh ? ... I don't think you IQ is very high, i'm sure you believe that it is. You really didnt get it after all And actually, yeah my iq is pretty high , so high it can touch the skyyyy
So you believe that because you can work out, and simple, very basic Skill Tree system, you IQ is so high that you can touch the Sky ?... CCP has done a great job brainwashing your limited intellect. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:00:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:ShakeMS wrote:
I too have attempted this in a few threads in the past but they always just google Dust514 and CCP has it posted as a MMOFPS. They are too clueless to know what a real MMO is. The fact that a shooter is linked to a MMO slightly doesn't make it a real MMO more like a mmo by association
MMO stands for Massive Multiplayer Online. Any type of game that has a massive amount of players that are playing online together, is an MMO. A texas holdem poker game you play on your android phone is an MMO, which includes Dust in the very simple to understand term. It seems you are confusing MMOs to solely be in province of MMO RPGs. You have to add the rest of games genre, because MMO is any game that is massively played online. And btw, i don't know where you are pulling this information out of (assuming your ass), but CCP posted this game as a "sandbox fps", which is exactly what it is. Not being able to understand the terminology you are using throws away any credibility you might have had.
Nice little bubble you guys have here ...
- Worldwide Gaming Community ; This is not a MMO.
- EvE Online Community ; Everyone else is wrong, and we right. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:08:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:pew pew youredead wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:
"go back to generic bland shooters so we can raise our iq and you bring back your wonderful intellect to the casual retards"
To bad Dust 514 is a FPS game huh ? ... I don't think you IQ is very high, i'm sure you believe that it is.
You really didnt get it after all And actually, yeah my iq is pretty high , so high it can touch the skyyyy So you believe that because you can work out, and simple, very basic Skill Tree system, you IQ is so high that you can touch the Sky ?... CCP has done a great job brainwashing your limited intellect. You have the inability to work out a coherent sentence. Pointing out others intelligence is not the way to go for you.
............. " Go back to CoD, so we can play our intelligent game, and you bring back your stupidity to the other idiots. "
Ohh... I do understand . You not as clever as you think |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:16:00 -
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You said i have the inability to work out a coherent sentence, right ?....which sentence you talking about ? Do i miss something ? |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:21:00 -
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Like i already said.... you tried to be clever.. and you failed ... miserably.
But... carry on... I having fun seen how Intelligent you guys are. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 12:45:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:And another forum warrior whining about a free game instead of going outside or playing another game Let me guess: 15 years old, living with your parents in their basement?
( Facepalm ) ...
"15 years old", "living" with their parents .... just when i thought you guys couldn't get any stupider. |
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:02:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:iceyburnz wrote:
About 10% of those, are people who complain on the forum, consistantly, and yet still play a game they supposedly think it terribad.
Quite funny to watch actually. I always picture those guys to look like this when I read whine posts: LINK
I always picture EvE players like this
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