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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:55:00 -
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Thank goodness someone wizened up Yes some people got some random free goodies, but thankfully no one is left in a state they are unable to play the game at all. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:05:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Geirskoegul wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Thank goodness someone wizened up Yes some people got some random free goodies, but thankfully no one is left in a state they are unable to play the game at all. They were able to play just fine, they just had to work off the penalty of willfully exploiting a gllitch (a bannable offense). If there's another bug resetting them to zero that needs to be fixed ASAP. It's not even about the illicit gains, really, but about teaching cheaters what happens when they get caught. They didn't cheat and never deserved to get punished in the first place. CCP gave them money, they spent it. Get over it, that's generally how things work.
In many cases, people were sent negative who didn't even spend the money. So this definitely needed to happen. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:09:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:If this is true, then I am seriously pissed off. It feels like I'm getting punished for not going on a crazy spending spree like an idiot. But you're telling me if I had done that, I would've gotten to keep my extra ISK in the form of assest? Bullshit
Someone else getting an undeserved gift does not mean you were punished. The people in the negative for malicious reasons appeared to be the minority in my limited survey. And the people who don't visit the forums would have no clue what is going on. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:19:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:If this is true, then I am seriously pissed off. It feels like I'm getting punished for not going on a crazy spending spree like an idiot. But you're telling me if I had done that, I would've gotten to keep my extra ISK in the form of assest? Bullshit Someone else getting an undeserved gift does not mean you were punished. The people in the negative for malicious reasons appeared to be the minority in my limited survey. And the people who don't visit the forums would have no clue what is going on. Yeah and people who used their money to buy clone packs to fight in a war that affects every PC corp doesn't set anyone back? It does.
Stop losing and you'll make more clones? |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:21:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:If this is true, then I am seriously pissed off. It feels like I'm getting punished for not going on a crazy spending spree like an idiot. But you're telling me if I had done that, I would've gotten to keep my extra ISK in the form of assest? Bullshit Someone else getting an undeserved gift does not mean you were punished. The people in the negative for malicious reasons appeared to be the minority in my limited survey. And the people who don't visit the forums would have no clue what is going on. Because of this, some corps have millions of extra ISK to fund PC, and some players have hundreds of tank and proto suits. Since I tried to play it smart and not act rashly, my corp is significantly poorer and I have many less fittings than I otherwise might have. Now we will have to play against those players who are much better equipped/funded. How is that not a punishment?
So? Our corp has individuals that were billionaires long before this mix up. People who could afford to attack you every day for a week out of pocket change. A few 100M here and there is literally nothing in the overall scheme of the economy. Also, you make more ISK if you don't lose.  |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:31:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:If this is true, then I am seriously pissed off. It feels like I'm getting punished for not going on a crazy spending spree like an idiot. But you're telling me if I had done that, I would've gotten to keep my extra ISK in the form of assest? Bullshit Someone else getting an undeserved gift does not mean you were punished. The people in the negative for malicious reasons appeared to be the minority in my limited survey. And the people who don't visit the forums would have no clue what is going on. is it a punishment for those who did the right thing. and don't give me they didn't go the to forum so was not informed they sent out in-game announcements on top of it saying they are going to remove the extra ISK and not to spend it because you will go negative and not just one announcement 3 different ones. then I demand that I get the extra 350mil ISK back that I did not touch because I know like everyone else that I should of not had.
That is a severe cognitive fallacy. Nothing more to say about it really. Someone getting something they didn't deserve does not mean you were punished. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 17:43:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:ladwar wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:If this is true, then I am seriously pissed off. It feels like I'm getting punished for not going on a crazy spending spree like an idiot. But you're telling me if I had done that, I would've gotten to keep my extra ISK in the form of assest? Bullshit Someone else getting an undeserved gift does not mean you were punished. The people in the negative for malicious reasons appeared to be the minority in my limited survey. And the people who don't visit the forums would have no clue what is going on. is it a punishment for those who did the right thing. and don't give me they didn't go the to forum so was not informed they sent out in-game announcements on top of it saying they are going to remove the extra ISK and not to spend it because you will go negative and not just one announcement 3 different ones. then I demand that I get the extra 350mil ISK back that I did not touch because I know like everyone else that I should of not had. That is a severe cognitive fallacy. Nothing more to say about it really. Someone getting something they didn't deserve does not mean you were punished. you must be one of those that went its ok to spend all of the ISK, CCP will just reset me to zero and i'll just make that ISK later with player market. because I had extra ISK remove for nothing they have there ISK reset to zero for assets worth the ISK they should be negative for but are not. its like running hot checks and then going whoops you didn't know your not going to jail and you get to keep everything paid for with them, you think that's right?
Actually I lost 35M and didn't spend any of it. But I'm fine because I have enough to absorb that kind of hit. The new players who went -10's of M, the myriad that don't visit the forums at all, and the occasional severe case of negative several hundred million, some who spent the ISK, but more importantly some who didn't, are the people that I defend. The game is unplayable if you are negative and don't have the resources to get out. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:37:00 -
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Ronan Elsword wrote:If CCP is going to reward players for exploiting accidental bugs, they should just give everyone back the ISK they gave in the first place. If they spent the ISK they are not penalized because they already have the equipment they bought. Make them be in dept whatever they over spent.
Sure why not. I don't really care. But don't force people out of a game with critically low player count. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:41:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Ronan Elsword wrote:If CCP is going to reward players for exploiting accidental bugs, they should just give everyone back the ISK they gave in the first place. If they spent the ISK they are not penalized because they already have the equipment they bought. Make them be in dept whatever they over spent. Sure why not. I don't really care. But don't force people out of a game with critically low player count. They're not forcing anyone out. Didn't they offer to liquidate your assets, if you want to get out of debt? What ever happened to that plan...
Some people went several hundred million in debt, and did not have several million in assets to liquidate. And even if they did donate to the corp (not all affected did) there is no guarantee the money would be returned. 0 isk is starting over, going broke. Negative isk is pure punishment which is wrong when CCP is at fault. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 18:42:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Ronan Elsword wrote:If CCP is going to reward players for exploiting accidental bugs, they should just give everyone back the ISK they gave in the first place. If they spent the ISK they are not penalized because they already have the equipment they bought. Make them be in dept whatever they over spent. Sure why not. I don't really care. But don't force people out of a game with critically low player count. They're not forcing anyone out. Didn't they offer to liquidate your assets, if you want to get out of debt? What ever happened to that plan... Don't worry too much about Noc, if you look over his posting history he basically wants this to be Call of Halo so he can faceroll until the next FoTM comes out and he moves on.
Gonna back that up with facts or just profess truth out of thin air? Are you a disciple of a god or other omniscient being? |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:08:00 -
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Geirskoegul wrote:
I did, your post history is right there for everyone to see.
**** your teapot, Russel. I prefer black coffee. |
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Posted - 2013.05.31 19:10:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:ladwar wrote:so your in favor of bugging and glitching the game to help yourself out. Noc Tempre wrote:I will gladly err on the side of positive error when it comes to an entertainment medium. Why yes, yes he is.
I lost out on this deal. Your strawman is nothing but a yarn. |
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