DUST Search - OMG! WHAT DID I JUST DO?

Jade Tech wrote:

I am a sniper... Now here comes the insults...

Anyways, I was playing a bit of Domination and decided to bring out my secret weapon. Thale TAR Sniper. I can hear people starting to fume. I feel your pain. Back to the situation, here's the thing...

I feel as though MCC sniping is really OP. But there are a lot of other things that are OP, so why can't a sniper have one too.

Calm down. For the people that hate snipers, and absolutely despise MCC snipers, I'm kinda on your side. I don't like OP, even when I'm using it.

For all of you that don't know how bad it is, well, I'll show you.

K-2 nanohive, 3 armor extenders, 1 armor repairer, 3 enhanced weapon upgrades, gallente medium pro basic. Thale TAR Sniper.

My Sniper Domination Score

These opponents stood still for the longest of times, (except for davie bird, which I must commend for being such a tank and taking my bullets like they were nothing.) so they must have been newbs. That's no excuse, I know.

So, yep. For those who can't see the pictures, here's my score.

Kill/Death = 50/0
6 headshots
577,000 isk
7,000 sp
2500 wp

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Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:10:00 - [1] - Quote I am a sniper... Now here comes the insults... Anyways, I was playing a bit of Domination and decided to bring out my secret weapon. Thale TAR Sniper. I can hear people starting to fume. I feel your pain. Back to the situation, here's the thing... I feel as though MCC sniping is really OP. But there are a lot of other things that are OP, so why can't a sniper have one too. Calm down. For the people that hate snipers, and absolutely despise MCC snipers, I'm kinda on your side. I don't like OP, even when I'm using it. For all of you that don't know how bad it is, well, I'll show you. K-2 nanohive, 3 armor extenders, 1 armor repairer, 3 enhanced weapon upgrades, gallente medium pro basic. Thale TAR Sniper. My Sniper Domination Score These opponents stood still for the longest of times, (except for davie bird, which I must commend for being such a tank and taking my bullets like they were nothing.) so they must have been newbs. That's no excuse, I know. So, yep. For those who can't see the pictures, here's my score. Kill/Death = 50/0 6 headshots 577,000 isk 7,000 sp 2500 wp
Schalac 17 Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 187	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:13:00 - [2] - Quote The fact that they allow the MMC to overlook the point in domination is another example of how CCP fails at making a FPS.
xprotoman23 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1757	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:14:00 - [3] - Quote don't tell me you lost
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:18:00 - [4] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: The fact that they allow the MMC to overlook the point in domination is another example of how CCP fails at making a FPS. Funny. I totally agree with you. I cringe at the thought of the people I shot now knowing where I was and how I could kill them in a single shot. FPS gaming should be more... I don't know the word. See, what I'm having trouble understanding is why they didn't see me and start setting up sniper posts. That's one thing about DUST. Move your cursor around the screen and a person name with pop up somewhere. Aren't snipers supposed to be stealthy? It shouldn't be that easy to find a sniper. Otherwise, yeah. MCC sniping is is OP, but like the Tac rifle, I have to keep going back to it. It's a habit now.
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:19:00 - [5] - Quote xprotoman23 wrote: don't tell me you lost Hah.........Haha.........Hahahahahahahahahahah! We won.
dabest2evadoit7 Cyberdyne Systems and Technology 59	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:23:00 - [6] - Quote You can snipe from the MCC? Just when I thought this game could not be any worse. SMH. CCP=Epic Fail.
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:29:00 - [7] - Quote dabest2evadoit7 wrote: You can snipe from the MCC? Just when I thought this game could not be any worse. SMH. CCP=Epic Fail. Yeah, It's not really cool at all. The only up side to it is that you can counter snipe still. Even though they're in the MCC, you can still snipe them. That's pretty much the only thing that can get rid of them.
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 500	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:42:00 - [8] - Quote only 6 headshots? bravo anyways. A sniper that would be useful in PC (vry rare)
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2013.05.31 04:48:00 - [9] - Quote Sontie wrote: only 6 headshots? bravo anyways. A sniper that would be useful in PC (vry rare) Thank you! I'm so glad that someone realizes it's not just the game or OP. For a sniper to be that good shooting out of the same spot in 15 minutes and getting that many kills, it takes a lot of skill. Thank you. I wish I could play PC battles, but my corp doesn't have much firepower to take a district yet, so we'll keep waiting until the big corporations die down and the star map expands. All I can do now is assist anyone that wants help in battles like those. I'm a good mercenary who works for anyone, for free! Look me up!
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo 93	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:39:00 - [10] - Quote I was in a match of domination the other day on Spine Crescent. There was a sniper up on the attackers MCC that was wrecking havoc on our team. 3 (including myself) of our squad switched to sniper rifles and started trying to find a spot we could get him from but we couldn't; it didn't cross our minds to call out a dropship to get to higher ground but perhaps that was for the best as none of us are decent pilots. I figured if we couldn't kill him then at least we might be able to prevent him from killing anyone else. So one of my squad members jumped on a nearby rail turret and I a missle turret and started firing away at him with the idea being that the explosions would block his view thus preventing him from getting kills. Apparently it work because very shortly after we started doing this he began to move to the other side of his MCC and our shots followed him. He went back and forth on the MCC for a while as we bombarded him until finally he jumped off the MCC. We never did kill him but I firmly believe we beat him.

Aeon Amadi Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1411	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:45:00 - [11] - Quote Lmfao, yeah you can snipe from the **ing MCC. I've been saying that ** ever since 5/16 and you people are JUST NOW finding this out????
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 163	Posted - 2013.05.31 05:50:00 - [12] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: The fact that they allow the MMC to overlook the point in domination is another example of how CCP fails at making a FPS. Some maps have cool elements...but yeah i am pretty sure CCP put them in there by accident.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 181	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:03:00 - [13] - Quote Now lets see you do it with a militia rifle instead of a thale and Ill be impressed
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 7	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:20:00 - [14] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Lmfao, yeah you can snipe from the **ing MCC. I've been saying that ** ever since 5/16 and you people are JUST NOW finding this out???? I already knew that. I just felt the full force of the OP today. 50/0 is just too good.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:27:00 - [15] - Quote Schalac 17 wrote: The fact that they allow the MMC to overlook the point in domination is another example of how CCP fails at making a FPS. They didn't fail, they just broke the game. I remember that before the release, you couldn't shoot through the MCC drop shield. That was totally fair. Wat the hell happened that made CCP remove that shield?
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 501	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:36:00 - [16] - Quote The MCC is a warship. You shouldn't be able to sit under the enemy warship and farm kills, redline or not. So, the enemy sniping from inside the MCC makes perfect sense, to me at least.
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 7	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:38:00 - [17] - Quote General Erick wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: The fact that they allow the MMC to overlook the point in domination is another example of how CCP fails at making a FPS. They didn't fail, they just broke the game. I remember that before the release, you couldn't shoot through the MCC drop shield. That was totally fair. Wat the hell happened that made CCP remove that shield? I have no idea. The shield is still there, it just doesn't deflect shots. They never really discussed that, did they? There should be a topic on that noticed by CCP.
Captain Africa Clone1 GRIM MARCH 3	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:43:00 - [18] - Quote You F*** newbs ....New Eden is a sandbox , of course should you be able to shoot from the MMC Now just shoot back !
Sontie Ill Omens EoN. 505	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:29:00 - [19] - Quote Jade, maybe you could be leased out to Ill Omens for a while until your corps gets strong enough to participate? We don't pick up ringers outside of alliance (we have a REALLY strong alliance), but we prefer using only Omens when we can. So join us for a while and get some PC experience that might help your corp out when they finally do PC.
steadyhand amarr Amarr Imortal volunteers 642	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:46:00 - [20] - Quote Thats a bug don't get too attached to it :-)

Hellvira Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.05.31 07:59:00 - [21] - Quote Even if I don't like that you can snipe out of the MCC... good job. I was a sniper before Uprising and never tried it again. Seriously, good job, I'm a little bit proud. :D
Kekklian Noobatronic Goonfeet 69	Posted - 2013.05.31 08:40:00 - [22] - Quote I love MCC snipers. To snipe, they have to be in a very very small position, totaly exposed. Meanwhile, I can be literally anywhere on the map that has LOS to their MCC exit(quite a few places) - most of which have excellent vertical cover. Makes it very hard for them to find you. Advantage - Countersniper. Headshots don't come any easier than that. Most people just dont put 2+2 together. The direction indicator points you to the MCC when you're hit. Your kill screen shows you were hit over 300 yards away. It's not that hard to deduce that you were shot from the enemy MCC. Grab a militia sniper rifle, and go rake in your easy head shots.
Keeriam Miray IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 13	Posted - 2013.05.31 10:06:00 - [23] - Quote Jade Tech wrote: For a sniper to be that good shooting out of the same spot in 15 minutes and getting that many kills, it takes a lot of skill. lololol camping-hp tanking sniper don't need any skills at all... plus you where in pub. Try that in CB or PC, and in map with Orbital Artillery Outpost. BIG difference. I'm not telling you bad or noob, but.... 1. View distance is limited. you can't see sniper. Sometime even wtih sniper rifle. You need your team mates to be in hot locations or you unable to see anyone further than 350m away with sniper rifle. 2. From lower positions it's hard, near to impossible to kill sniper on top of MCC. Because of crazy huge invisible collision box on MCC and other structures. Sniping from Gallente MCC is harder, you can't shoot below you. 3. Maps are not balanced, not symmetric, not equal with terrain & structures. There are defending side & attacking side. So your KD is 30-50% of luck (advantage in position & map). 30-50% of bad quality enemy team to match your TAR-07.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 42	Posted - 2013.05.31 10:27:00 - [24] - Quote 50-0 KDR? That's like the opposite of my KDR..... Every kill is so sweet in that milita scout suit with 170 ehp. I'm not sure how I feel about this.... um, thanks for pointing it out and it's good to have a valid tactic I guess. But, uh.... way to challenge yourself...?
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 7	Posted - 2013.05.31 19:54:00 - [25] - Quote Sontie wrote: Jade, maybe you could be leased out to Ill Omens for a while until your corps gets strong enough to participate? We don't pick up ringers outside of alliance (we have a REALLY strong alliance), but we prefer using only Omens when we can. So join us for a while and get some PC experience that might help your corp out when they finally do PC. I would be happy to join a few of your battles. However, don't think it'll lure me to join Ill Omens. To tell you the truth, I was in Ill Omens once before, and I didn't really like it all too much. But for PC battles, or regular battles, I will gladly help. My hand in PC battles go to the first person to ask me. And to all the other comments, I am a great sniper. Spent a whole month on this game using nothing but my tactical snipers back in beta. Now, I'm using kalaakiotas and really hope not to go back to militia snipers. I just don't feel accustomed to them anymore. All I want to use is my trusty kalaakiota and on occasion my Thale. As for MCC sniping, It is OP, and may be kinda newbish, but like the other person said. It's pretty easy to figure out that there are snipers up there. However, when using a Thale... It's a one hit KO kinda thing, so they never know where I am. That's why I'm sorry for everyone I shoot. They'll think that the game killed them, not me.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 539	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:29:00 - [26] - Quote Jade Tech wrote: I am a sniper... Now here comes the insults... Anyways, I was playing a bit of Domination and decided to bring out my secret weapon. Thale TAR Sniper. I can hear people starting to fume. I feel your pain. Back to the situation, here's the thing... I feel as though MCC sniping is really OP. But there are a lot of other things that are OP, so why can't a sniper have one too. Calm down. For the people that hate snipers, and absolutely despise MCC snipers, I'm kinda on your side. I don't like OP, even when I'm using it. For all of you that don't know how bad it is, well, I'll show you. K-2 nanohive, 3 armor extenders, 1 armor repairer, 3 enhanced weapon upgrades, gallente medium pro basic. Thale TAR Sniper. My Sniper Domination Score These opponents stood still for the longest of times, (except for davie bird, which I must commend for being such a tank and taking my bullets like they were nothing.) so they must have been newbs. That's no excuse, I know. So, yep. For those who can't see the pictures, here's my score. Kill/Death = 50/0 6 headshots 577,000 isk 7,000 sp 2500 wp No problem!! I just finished my sniper fit to counter " snipers" like you: "The Middle Finger" with large proto missiles I think is a good heavy sniper loadout. or large railgun Yeah its a tank and thats what I call it so you go ahead and glitch snipe and I will return the favor. But I think large missiles hitting the moonpool are more of a payback on MCC hermits.
Nebra Tene Roaming Blades 43	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:38:00 - [27] - Quote Sontie wrote: The MCC is a warship. You shouldn't be able to sit under the enemy warship and farm kills, redline or not. So, the enemy sniping from inside the MCC makes perfect sense, to me at least. That's nice and all, but you forget many times they have a pretty nice view of a large portion of the battlefield, and one or multiple control points. Heck, in Domination there are a couple of maps where the MCCs are pretty close to the center and one can easily see most of the area and have a clear shot at the control point. Its not about spawn campers being too close to the MCC, its the MCC being too close and allowing people to camp at spawn.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 93	Posted - 2013.05.31 20:48:00 - [28] - Quote @ OP Hi could you please clarify whether you were shooting from "inside" the MCC or on "top" of the MCC. I have known about shooting from on top of the MCC but had not heard that the shield no longer blocked shots from inside the MCC.
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 8	Posted - 2013.05.31 21:22:00 - [29] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: @ OP Hi could you please clarify whether you were shooting from "inside" the MCC or on "top" of the MCC. I have known about shooting from on top of the MCC but had not heard that the shield no longer blocked shots from inside the MCC. I was shooting from the inside.
Kyle Drysden the Aurum Grinder and Company 20	Posted - 2013.05.31 21:33:00 - [30] - Quote Apparently you can also drop down onto the missile turret on the underside of the MCC. Not sure how he did it, but I saw a teammate perched on the very tip of the turret. It's nearly impossible to see from the ground.



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