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Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:01:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:Oh please, this is in no way to the same extent as that trainwreck. DUST 514 announcement demo: DUST 514 demo | DUST as it actually is
- Better explosions, textures, and effects, it's a different game engine than final product (ended up using Unreal 3. Unreal 4 available but too expensive for game, I guess.).
- Vehicle control is a lot better in demo. Let's see anyone in DUST right now driving like they do in this demo.
- Graphics a lot better in demo.
- Lots of features in demo omitted from final game.
- AI doesn't exist in final game.
- Developer commits to continued updates and new features. Has yet to overcome most of the original criticism, or match their demo.
Aliens: Colonial Marines in-progress demo: Demo vs Final Product
- Better explosions, textures, and effects, it's a different game engine than final product (ended up using Unreal 3. Unreal 4 available but too expensive for game, I guess.).
- Graphics a lot better in demo than final.
- Lots of features in demo omitted from final game.
- AI is garbage in final game.
- Developer commits to continued updates and new features. Has yet to overcome most of the original criticism, or match their demo.
It's the same thing. I'm not trying to diss DUST too much... I want to see it successful. I've spent a decent amount of rl cash to support it too. However, you have to look at the reality of the situation: DUST is free. My time is not. If the game isn't good RIGHT NOW, it's not a good game. Maybe it can be a good game in the future... but it needs to get there real quick and there's not much sign of anything but little tweaks coming up in the near future. I'm here for the long haul, because I play EvE. If it wasn't for EvE, I doubt I would give DUST a second chance.
The ps3 cant use UE4. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:06:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:To be honest.. i been asking this question for a bit, and i still haven't hear a logical reason. I don't buy the full Carbon Engine BS... I think something else happen.
Even if it was the Carbon engine, ( Which i seriously dough it was ), still doesn't explain, why is taking CCP this long to transfer the game mechanics to a different engine. Doesn't make any sense. First, it was already said that changing the engine means rebuilding a large chunk of code. Second these trailers are goddam trailers We can be pretty sure that almost everything we see there is prescripted, preanimated and prerendered. Trailers that show actual gameplay usually have a small "actual gameplay" branding. This does not because it's not actual gameplay. Most game-play trailers are normally very close to the actual game... also... how old is the Carbon engine ? Over 10 years ?. It can run a complex Space Exploration game, but not a FPS ?...If it was a problem with graphics, why they not just lowered the overall quality ? Any way... never mind.. I seriously dough we will never know what really happen.
Carbon at first melted some high end PC. PS3 = Low end pc to todays standards. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
187
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:08:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:The ps3 cant use UE4. oops. Right you are! Thanks! Still... unreal 3 is from 2005 or 6, right? ...kinda dated.
Yea but just because somethings dated doesn't mean it can't be upgraded to work A LOT better. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
187
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:19:00 -
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Cygnus Gogela wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Cygnus Gogela wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:The ps3 cant use UE4. oops. Right you are! Thanks! Still... unreal 3 is from 2005 or 6, right? ...kinda dated. Yea but just because somethings dated doesn't mean it can't be upgraded to work A LOT better. I guess that begs the question "than why hasn't that happened?"
Have you played a game on UE3? This game is by far the best looking game I've played that used UE3. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
187
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:25:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:To be honest.. i been asking this question for a bit, and i still haven't hear a logical reason. I don't buy the full Carbon Engine BS... I think something else happen.
Even if it was the Carbon engine, ( Which i seriously dough it was ), still doesn't explain, why is taking CCP this long to transfer the game mechanics to a different engine. Doesn't make any sense. First, it was already said that changing the engine means rebuilding a large chunk of code. Second these trailers are goddam trailers We can be pretty sure that almost everything we see there is prescripted, preanimated and prerendered. Trailers that show actual gameplay usually have a small "actual gameplay" branding. This does not because it's not actual gameplay. Most game-play trailers are normally very close to the actual game... also... how old is the Carbon engine ? Over 10 years ?. It can run a complex Space Exploration game, but not a FPS ?...If it was a problem with graphics, why they not just lowered the overall quality ? Any way... never mind.. I seriously dough we will never know what really happen. The space stuff is not based on carbon, at least not the rendering part. How old the carbon engine is i don't know, but is more like four years and engines tend to perform differently in various environments e.g. ID tech needed significant reworks to cope with large areas while allowing great visuals in enclosed spaces. The space simulation is not that complex. In fact the main reason why eve looks so good even on old hardware is the fact that most of what you see in any given scene is a high resolution skybox. The polycount is really rather low compared to games that have to render vast areas along with all the actors. The Carbon engine is 10 years old ; http://www.ccpgames.com/en/company/technology
Carbon framework is not the carbon engine. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
187
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Posted - 2013.05.31 00:55:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:
So you saying that the following games are rubbish ;
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Army of Two: The 40th Day
BioShock Infinity
Borderlands
Borderlands 2
Dishonored
DmC: Devil May Cry
Gears of War: Judgment
All those games run with the Unreal 3 engine....now i''m of to bed... i let you think about that one.
Yea and each of those games uses a modified (probably heavily modified) version of UE3 |
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