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Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:41:00 -
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personally I have not been affected by the risk spike. I jumped to 300 mil, then fell back down to what I had before.
With all the ******** butt hurt going around, it probably would have been a better idea to leave us with all that extra risk. Sure, it would have inflated the market. But would could have fixed the issue another way, like doubled the price of everything in the market so we could slowly bleed out all of that extra income. Then reduce the prices when the communities college give savings reached a more "normal" level.
What they did here is they set fire to the economy, and then they threw gasoline on it in the attempt to put it out. Yea, it didn't work. more then half of the community is going through an isk depression because of it, and most of them are going to leave. all of that saving, all of that work was ripped out of the communities hands, and most of them had absolutely no idea what was going on, or why it happened.
If anything, I would consider this a catastrophic event, which mean there needs to be a roll back before any of this ever happened. Yea you'll lose some progress in PC, and probably in a few skills or whatever. But the game's life is at stake here. This needs to be dealt with before the weekend.
Give back the counterfeit isk, or roll back the servers. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
541
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:42:00 -
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There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:45:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
566
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:46:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:personally I have not been affected by the risk spike. I jumped to 300 mil, then fell back down to what I had before.
With all the ******** butt hurt going around, it probably would have been a better idea to leave us with all that extra risk. Sure, it would have inflated the market. But would could have fixed the issue another way, like doubled the price of everything in the market so we could slowly bleed out all of that extra income. Then reduce the prices when the communities college give savings reached a more "normal" level.
What they did here is they set fire to the economy, and then they threw gasoline on it in the attempt to put it out. Yea, it didn't work. more then half of the community is going through an isk depression because of it, and most of them are going to leave. all of that saving, all of that work was ripped out of the communities hands, and most of them had absolutely no idea what was going on, or why it happened.
If anything, I would consider this a catastrophic event, which mean there needs to be a roll back before any of this ever happened. Yea you'll lose some progress in PC, and probably in a few skills or whatever. But the game's life is at stake here. This needs to be dealt with before the weekend.
Give back the counterfeit isk, or roll back the servers.
I disagree wholeheartedly. Doing what you suggest to the market would be insane. It would cause a river of complaints that makes the illegitimate ISK spenders whine look like a trickle. This was the right way. Those of us with a modicum of intelligence and restraint have had nothing negative happen. This is a good life lesson for the rest. At no extra charge even.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
541
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:48:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back. I think you missed the point. Regardless of the solution implemented, people would have complained. A server rollback at this stage would probably generate ludicrous amounts of QQ, in addition to screwing over newbies. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back. I think you missed the point. Regardless of the solution implemented, people would have complained. A server rollback at this stage would probably generate ludicrous amounts of QQ, in addition to screwing over newbies. I am not suggesting a massive roll back, just one that reverts back to the point of just before the isk inflation happened.
Yea yea, its a good life lesson, but this is a game. A game that needs a community to survive. People are going to leave. Characters that had millions of so will eventually become useless because they have no isk to support themselves. Those with less so will be frozen because they won't be able to buy anything to upgrade their characters.
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Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
131
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Posted - 2013.05.30 16:59:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back. I think you missed the point. Regardless of the solution implemented, people would have complained. A server rollback at this stage would probably generate ludicrous amounts of QQ, in addition to screwing over newbies. I am not suggesting a massive roll back, just one that reverts back to the point of just before the isk inflation happened. Yea yea, its a good life lesson, but this is a game. A game that needs a community to survive. People are going to leave. Characters that had millions of so will eventually become useless because they have no isk to support themselves. Those with less so will be frozen because they won't be able to buy anything to upgrade their characters.
While you have a good point, I think most of the people that are going to leave over this are silly little newb kids who would have left the minute Battlefield 4 and CoD whatever are released. I will miss the slight inflation to my anemic KDR that they brought, but not much else. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
536
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:00:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, another thread saying "OMG I LOST ALL MY MONEY" You know, in real life... if your bank account suddenly floods with $$.. You can get in trouble if you spend it. Because you didn't earn it and they are going to want it back. Silly you for saying. Oh well they need to man up, when in real life the exact same thing happens. And I bet for a fact if you wrote a check for $1,000 instead of $100, you would be taking that money back! There wouldn't be any, "oh well... my bad. I messed up. I'll take the loss." NO. you would OMVAG@G@ GIMME MY MOTHER KITTEN MONEY OR I"LL BREAK YOUR KNEECAPS.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
569
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:01:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back. I think you missed the point. Regardless of the solution implemented, people would have complained. A server rollback at this stage would probably generate ludicrous amounts of QQ, in addition to screwing over newbies. I am not suggesting a massive roll back, just one that reverts back to the point of just before the isk inflation happened. Yea yea, its a good life lesson, but this is a game. A game that needs a community to survive. People are going to leave. Characters that had millions of so will eventually become useless because they have no isk to support themselves. Those with less so will be frozen because they won't be able to buy anything to upgrade their characters. One of the problems I have with this idea, is that it punishes everyone. Right now, just the dumbasses who spent ISK they didn't earn got punished. This is fine. Consequences and all. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
76
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:02:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There were better ways to deal with it, yeah. But regardless of the solution implemented, there was always going to be a bunch of people whinging about how unfair everything is. Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back. I think you missed the point. Regardless of the solution implemented, people would have complained. A server rollback at this stage would probably generate ludicrous amounts of QQ, in addition to screwing over newbies. I am not suggesting a massive roll back, just one that reverts back to the point of just before the isk inflation happened. Yea yea, its a good life lesson, but this is a game. A game that needs a community to survive. People are going to leave. Characters that had millions of so will eventually become useless because they have no isk to support themselves. Those with less so will be frozen because they won't be able to buy anything to upgrade their characters. One of the problems I have with this idea, is that it punishes everyone. Right now, just the dumbasses who spent ISK they didn't earn got punished. This is fine. Consequences and all. Which is 80% of the community.
Thats actually a big problem
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
569
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:05:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Zekain K wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Zekain K wrote: Then they should have chosen the lesser evil. Which would have been a roll back.
I think you missed the point. Regardless of the solution implemented, people would have complained. A server rollback at this stage would probably generate ludicrous amounts of QQ, in addition to screwing over newbies. I am not suggesting a massive roll back, just one that reverts back to the point of just before the isk inflation happened. Yea yea, its a good life lesson, but this is a game. A game that needs a community to survive. People are going to leave. Characters that had millions of so will eventually become useless because they have no isk to support themselves. Those with less so will be frozen because they won't be able to buy anything to upgrade their characters. One of the problems I have with this idea, is that it punishes everyone. Right now, just the dumbasses who spent ISK they didn't earn got punished. This is fine. Consequences and all. Which is 80% of the community. Thats actually a big problem
Source please. And, no, it isn't a big problem. Anyone who is now negative can petition CCP to get their ISK back as well as have their purchased assets reclaimed.
Oh, and those who would be affected by a rollback would be 100%. |
Judy Maat
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.05.30 17:19:00 -
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DID SOMEONE MENTIONED YOU CAN PETITION CCP TO GET YOUR ISK BACK? why are they not sending an IN GAME MAIL to all negative ISK players explaining them they can "sell back assets" by emailing [email protected] from their main email account. |
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