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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2013.05.30 20:50:00 -
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Personally, I'm a very big proponent of active play being the measurement stick used. This is one of the reasons I really want AFK SP and ISK to go away. It could potentially taint the electorate.
This is a free to play game and the players that put time and effort into the game create content for those that spend money. This sweat equity should not be overlooked when it come time to create an election process. |
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:54:00 -
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The MAC adress is a non-starter for me. You have households where multiple people use the same PS3 and I see no reason in disenfranchising them because they only own one PS3. Also, the voting process needs to be something completely in CCPs hands and that means in-game metrics. Same goes for the credit card idea, which in my opinion is also bad. You shouldn't have to provide a credit card number to vote in a free to play game. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:02:00 -
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I think potentially WP over a set period of time (maybe the last three months?) may work. I'm still concerned about people war point farming to get extra votes, but no system we come up will be perfect.
My only concern over the WP method is people who play low WP payout roles like dropship pilots. I don't want to end up not giving someone a vote because the game isn't rewarding their role properly in the first place. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:12:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Kain Spero wrote:The MAC adress is a non-starter for me. You have households where multiple people use the same PS3 and I see no reason in disenfranchising them because they only own one PS3. Also, the voting process needs to be something completely in CCPs hands and that means in-game metrics. Same goes for the credit card idea, which in my opinion is also bad. You shouldn't have to provide a credit card number to vote in a free to play game. At some point one, compromises will have to be made ! What's the percentage of players that would be left out with such mecanics ? Imo, not much. Now, how many players could wrong the voting process with a WP mecanics through farming alt accounts ? Imo, a lot more. Greater good > need of the few.Took that from a friend. Sad but real.
I still think that having any metric tied to something out of game and potentially gatewayed by Sony is a big mistake. There are some many in-game metrics at our disposal that it is just the matter of finding the right mix.
I don't think that one metric will be the magic bullet. I think it will require a combination of metrics to formulate of method of determining the electorate. A cocktail of WP, active SP, active time in-game etc. would be what is needed in the end.
In the end my main criteria are that it can't exclude players that put sweat equity in the game but play for free and it can't be something that is easily gamed. I feel pretty strongly that whatever is used it should be kept to something in-game. I really don't like the idea of MAC adresses since those can be spoofed and the idea of using credit cards is right out.
I do think though there needs to be a general consensus that the candidates will be player selected and elected and not appointed by CCP. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 19:20:00 -
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Klivve Cussler wrote: In the end, I agree that not every member of the councils will pull their weight. Not all of them will seriously consider the workload that they have volunteered for, and some of them will simply be difficult to work with. But the advantages of having a council that gets its mandate from the community rather than CCP outweigh the drawbacks.
Couldn't agree more. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:01:00 -
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Nova, the fact that you don't see the point in the players directly electing who represents them to CCP makes me sad.
The players deserve a voice through the CPM on the future of the game and they deserve the right to choose that voice through an election. CPM0 was established to be a precursor to the first player elected Council of Planetary Management. Our duty is to fulfill that mandate and give the players an elected council.
Elected by the players and not chosen by CCP.
I'll also reiterate my point that CPM0 should not be eligible for CPM1 elections., myself included. |
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Posted - 2013.06.12 21:34:00 -
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Klivve Cussler wrote: If CCP is choosing the members of the CPM, then the assumption is that they WILL be beholden to CCP in some way.
This can't be stressed enough. The CPM needs to be beholden to the community it represents. |
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:26:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Use the unique console ID that every ps3 has. One vote per Ps3.
I didn't read through the thread so it may have already been suggested.
This issue is due to a security leak this can now be spoofed. |
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