DUST Search - Why go scout?

SoCal Ninja wrote:

mollerz wrote:

SoCal Ninja wrote:

First Prophet wrote:

The only reason to spec scout is for the nova knife damage bonus. That's literally it.

People like to bring up flanking and the speed bonuses, but medium frames can do those things practically just as well, with more HP, CPU, PG, and slots.

^ what he said

They also get a 10% P damp bonus on top of that KN AND Melee bonus of 25% at LV 5. I have M scout LV5 + P Damp Lv 5. I don't even have to use dampeners and no one ever knows where I am. It's pretty sweet. Now if only the darn knives worked 100% An dI wish the controls weren't so sluggish it was viable to throw punches along with knife slashes... but i have to break out the sports section while I wait for the transition to happen. if it even does Roll

Did you know that the effect scan range is 10m for all suits. That means you aren't being picked up by passive scans unless your in 10m, and dampening doesn't stop you from being put on radar from being SEEN and tagged. It might have a decrease in time that you are tagged but this is unclear. So effectively you're spending a ton of Suit space and SP to stay hidden for 10m from your target when they don't see you. Seems like a waste to me.


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Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 268	Posted - 2013.05.29 21:10:00 - [1] - Quote Um how come if you watch the PC match where Imp almost loses to STB, you hear the entire IMP team call out and react intensely to shot gun scouts but nobody else? Seems like against IMP, shotgun scouts caused the biggest issues in PC.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 269	Posted - 2013.05.29 21:36:00 - [2] - Quote SoCal Ninja wrote: In summary, proto Scout with shotgun needs 3 hits from a SG to kill a proto anything else proto anything else needs 3 hits from an AR to kill proto scout which do you think is easier? Considering there is actual video evidence of some of the best players in the game (Imps) struggling to land those 3 shots on said scout, despite 3-4 players opening fire on them, I am not sure its as clear cut as you make it out to be :) I just specced out of Scout. I loved it, its a lot of fun to play. I never did get into shotties with it though, because there is a certan reliance on luck/bad hit detection/bad aim, to be successful as one. I dont remotely understand how the best shotgun scouts do their thing, but trying to do the same felt like a crap shoot. Sometimes, nobody can hit you and you dance for hours, sometimes you get gunned down in an instant.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 269	Posted - 2013.05.29 21:42:00 - [3] - Quote Ill have to watch that vid again, but Annie Oakley and Calamity Jane were using logis? In which case, all their movements were sprint? If so, not sure I can replicate sprinting at the angles they do on the DS3...For my own ego, I hope they use KB/M.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 269	Posted - 2013.05.29 22:33:00 - [4] - Quote The only advantage scouts have really is hitbox. And its hard to quantify how useful that is.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 271	Posted - 2013.05.30 14:39:00 - [5] - Quote SoCal Ninja wrote: mollerz wrote: SoCal Ninja wrote: First Prophet wrote: The only reason to spec scout is for the nova knife damage bonus. That's literally it. People like to bring up flanking and the speed bonuses, but medium frames can do those things practically just as well, with more HP, CPU, PG, and slots. ^ what he said They also get a 10% P damp bonus on top of that KN AND Melee bonus of 25% at LV 5. I have M scout LV5 + P Damp Lv 5. I don't even have to use dampeners and no one ever knows where I am. It's pretty sweet. Now if only the darn knives worked 100% An dI wish the controls weren't so sluggish it was viable to throw punches along with knife slashes... but i have to break out the sports section while I wait for the transition to happen. if it even does Did you know that the effect scan range is 10m for all suits. That means you aren't being picked up by passive scans unless your in 10m, and dampening doesn't stop you from being put on radar from being SEEN and tagged. It might have a decrease in time that you are tagged but this is unclear. So effectively you're spending a ton of Suit space and SP to stay hidden for 10m from your target when they don't see you. Seems like a waste to me. Yep. A lot of "scouts" praised the new build because they "could finally sneak around" The problem is, EVERYONE can now. A counter intuitive buff to scouts would be to buff the scan radius of all suits so the profile advanatge of the scout comes into play.