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D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:46:00 -
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we know in chromosome laser did almost no damage at close range and at long range they did massive damage. this is not physically possible and now that the lasers were nerfed makes it useless.
suggestions:
1. remove the sight. (really, it is literally a death laser pointer. you dnt need sights when your weapon fires the aiming laser)
2. make the lasers max range mid-range, with max range about 5% farther than the current TAC.
3. damage - a nice balance to damage would be either:*
a. the longer the laser stays on a single target the more damage it does, increasing by a multiple of the base damage until a upper limit is reached (i will not suggest damages that is for you ccp). this gun should get no fall off damage, but get the hard cut off (because its light. it becomes more of a flash light at max range so it wouldnt be effective past its max anyway). therefore it is effective at all points in its effective range until cut-off.
-AND/OR-
b. all the above except the laser with or without hitting a target will continue to build up damage over time until its maximum damage is reached and then stay at that max. (until over heat of course).
NOTE: for this to work the laser must have a slightly greater range every other weapon (except sniper rifles. you cnt generate that much power to fire that far). it has to be allowed to build up the damage. that way in close range, the laser is not as effective, although if the user does not miss they can still kill close range, the initial low damage gives the opponent the upper-hand. however at mid-range/semi long-range the laser will be a threat.
i feel this will make laser users happy, and promote variety in this wonderful game.
*this makes sense in that the longer a laser stays on a single point the more it pierces, cuts through the metal , etc it was heating. for they "b" part if a laser beam is fired before it has generated maximum power it can be powered while still being fired, but that requires massive amounts of energy. correct me if im wrong however. |
Ulysses Knapse
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:07:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:laser did almost no damage at close range and at long range they did massive damage. this is not physically possible
Not physically possible? And you know this... how? |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:11:00 -
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I'm sure he's referring to physics, as a distance = loss in damage for energy weapons, like flashlights not being as useful farther away. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:11:00 -
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Got a corp mate that's specced into lasers and melts face with the ELM/Viziam. Half the issue is the iron sights, and the other half is the lense flare. Fix those two issues, and there shouldn't be any issue. |
Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 07:03:00 -
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Just give laser rifles a true sight.
The scrambler rifle one would be good.
The iron sight is useless at the range the laser rifle is meant to operate. |
Ulysses Knapse
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.29 07:53:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I'm sure he's referring to physics, as a distance = loss in damage for energy weapons, like flashlights not being as useful farther away.
That's assuming that whatever the object is stays in the same form and acts in the same way in the entirety of its travels, which isn't the case for Laser Rifles as the item description clearly states. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:43:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:D legendary hero wrote:laser did almost no damage at close range and at long range they did massive damage. this is not physically possible Not physically possible? And you know this... how?
almost all real lasers in industrial settings anyway are used really close to the target material to be cut. still i said correct me if im wrong. if you find valid in formation that says that a beam at full power is more effective farther away than it it is at point blank. please do tell |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:43:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:I'm sure he's referring to physics, as a distance = loss in damage for energy weapons, like flashlights not being as useful farther away.
^^yes |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:48:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Got a corp mate that's specced into lasers and melts face with the ELM/Viziam. Half the issue is the iron sights, and the other half is the lense flare. Fix those two issues, and there shouldn't be any issue.
i dnt really use lasers, but all my friends complain about it being so under powered using a key chain flash ligh would do more damage. i want more variety back in the game to fix the kill feed to say more than just charge sniper rifle, tac, glu, gek...
i played a friend of mines profile during chromosome and found the laser to be great. although i feel the lasers could stand to do more damage. if there was a build up to a max damge over time that would be an intresting mechnic that would accomplish the ccp goal of ineffective at close range while, at the same time not under powering it.
at the same time a hard cap at 5% farther than tac range stops it from becoming a sniper, keeping them in the battle. in addition the skills required to get viziam are rediculous. all proto gear should be effective. |
Raze galder
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.29 18:09:00 -
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the laser in chrome was the reason for the nerf not to mention the reduction of range from all weapons means a laser user can't stand back and swipe someone half a map away killing them |
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D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.30 03:10:00 -
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the laser wasnt that OP in chromosome |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.31 08:19:00 -
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hey im seeing people use lasers now |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:40:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:the laser wasnt that OP in chromosome
You sure about that? There's some undeniable evidence. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.31 09:53:00 -
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10 meters more range and a dot sight should fix them. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:01:00 -
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ok maybe i jumped the gun. but still it was nice to see people using different guns. the kill feed was full of different weapons, now its just all tac |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:02:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:10 meters more range and a dot sight should fix them.
i think a sight might mess it up. 10 meters more range, and 10hp more damage |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:02:00 -
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hey how do you do that hyperlink thing? iss that html? |
TheEnd762
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:43:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:10 meters more range and a dot sight should fix them. i think a sight might mess it up. 10 meters more range, and 10hp more damage
10hp more damage would be more than they did in Chromosome. NO. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:55:00 -
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D legendary hero wrote:
hey how do you do that hyperlink thing? iss that html?
It's forum code, there's shortcuts to the different text commands when you hit reply or quote. Only things you can't do is embed pics or videos for some reason. There's no shortcut and I've tried manually. |
Aesiron Kor-Azor
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:06:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:D legendary hero wrote:laser did almost no damage at close range and at long range they did massive damage. this is not physically possible Not physically possible? And you know this... how?
If physics applied, it would be the other way around, they would be powerful at close but null at range. |
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D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.05.31 16:12:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:D legendary hero wrote:
hey how do you do that hyperlink thing? iss that html?
It's forum code, there's shortcuts to the different text commands when you hit reply or quote. Only things you can't do is embed pics or videos for some reason. There's no shortcut and I've tried manually.
^^nice. that is pretty sweet. much better than posting the whole youtube url up here and no one knows what its about... etc |
Green Living
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.05.31 22:31:00 -
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BUMP |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:44:00 -
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^^looks like someone just got a kill with an LAV.
any suggestions on minmintar shotugns?
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The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:08:00 -
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I was killed by one today and it was fun. Frying bacon sounds. |
Green Living
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.06.01 15:54:00 -
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Yes, I love the sound of the LR, about the only thing the did right with it this build. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.06.01 16:42:00 -
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sometimes i purposely let the laser guy kill me so he keeps on using it. im tired of tacs, and glus, and geks, and duvoules.... |
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