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agustis caesar Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:10:00 - [1] - Quote SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1517	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:11:00 - [2] - Quote So I can steal it.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 656	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:12:00 - [3] - Quote Working as intended. P.S. Thanks for the tank.
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Unclaimed. 78	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:12:00 - [4] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. Call it in in a safer enviroment. You called it in. It should come. Don't be mad because you made a bad decision during thr game and blame CCP for it.
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Unclaimed. 78	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:17:00 - [5] - Quote On your way out, can i have your stuff? Oh wait.... It was stolen!
agustis caesar Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:21:00 - [6] - Quote yeah, cause we should wait 15 seconds...to make is realistic....realistic would be like 30 minutes. The damn thing should spawn instantly. BTW, I was in an out of the way area at the beginning of the match. You people will defend the game mechanics till the day you die...lol Fanboys. yeah....THIS GAME IS PERFECT! If something sucks, why cant you just admit it sucks. If a player calls in a tank, and he dies before the tank gets there, the tank should not spawn. Simple really. oh no...people just gotta say how dumb someone is or L2P or whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better. Kinda sad really.
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1501	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:21:00 - [7] - Quote Don't ask anything of the RDV. It will only proceed to crush your dreams.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1517	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:21:00 - [8] - Quote Skipper Jones wrote: On your way out, can i have your stuff? Oh wait.... It was stolen!
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1517	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:24:00 - [9] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: yeah, cause we should wait 15 seconds...to make is realistic....realistic would be like 30 minutes. The damn thing should spawn instantly. BTW, I was in an out of the way area at the beginning of the match. You people will defend the game mechanics till the day you die...lol Fanboys. yeah....THIS GAME IS PERFECT! If something sucks, why cant you just admit it sucks. If a player calls in a tank, and he dies before the tank gets there, the tank should not spawn. Simple really. oh no...people just gotta say how dumb someone is or L2P or whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better. Kinda sad really. Tell you what, I'm willing to compromise. If I kill you, then your tank should not spawn, instead it should self destruct. Of course, I should get vehicle destruction points and an increased payout, and you'd still lose ISK, but this way your precious little toy won't turn against you
Skipper Jones ZionTCD Unclaimed. 78	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:24:00 - [10] - Quote You talk about being realistic and then proceed to say it should spawn instantly. OK man OK Fanboy, that's what you people call us now?

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1517	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:26:00 - [11] - Quote They should just instantly fall from the sky, crushing the person who called them in.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1399	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:27:00 - [12] - Quote Get better soon.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 613	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:27:00 - [13] - Quote All the good pilots I have seen carry a uplink and drop it around the position of where they are calling their vehicles in at......for this reason alone.
Templar 10 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 1	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:28:00 - [14] - Quote Many a cancel deployment button. But my thoughts u just fails at calling in a tank lol learn to hide or shoot nxt time. Or go to ur mcc or 3rd stop Fking calling it in in ambushes u ***** lol. Troll over
GATQS Angeles y Demonios Amenaza Inminente 18	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:31:00 - [15] - Quote Always make sure the area is secure before deploying any vehicle you have to pay for.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 185	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:33:00 - [16] - Quote HTFU
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 657	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:33:00 - [17] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: yeah, cause we should wait 15 seconds...to make is realistic....realistic would be like 30 minutes. The damn thing should spawn instantly. BTW, I was in an out of the way area at the beginning of the match. You people will defend the game mechanics till the day you die...lol Fanboys. yeah....THIS GAME IS PERFECT! If something sucks, why cant you just admit it sucks. If a player calls in a tank, and he dies before the tank gets there, the tank should not spawn. Simple really. oh no...people just gotta say how dumb someone is or L2P or whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better. Kinda sad really. It works as intended, try harder or get better.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 2	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:34:00 - [18] - Quote I can kind of see where he is coming fromnut only in one respect. If you died before it dropped from the rdv then that rdv pilot realisticly would fly sway cuz guess what the pilot just got knocked off, however once it drops your are SOL makes sense it wouldn't just disappear. This would also add a mechanic to the ambush cuz they would have to wait to attack til the rdv is about to drop it. I do not condone being a baby. I am not a vehicle pilot.
Asmodeus Reinhart Ninth Rim 13	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:34:00 - [19] - Quote This dude better never run care packages in COD... Not only do they not spawn instantly... Its everyone's personal mission to run up in your **** and take them.
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES EoN. 59	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:35:00 - [20] - Quote I really hope you are messing around with this. This is on par with the guy who wanted heavies to have base 1000 shields and armor.

Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 104	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:37:00 - [21] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. It's called a redline. It has its uses.
KOBLAKA1 Opus Arcana Orion Empire 2	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:39:00 - [22] - Quote TEXA5 HiTM4N wrote: I really hope you are messing around with this. This is on par with the guy who wanted heavies to have base 1000 shields and armor. Base 1000 is a bit much but 405 isn't enough when logis can break the 1000hp mark and heavies have problems breaking 1500 mark
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 288	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:42:00 - [23] - Quote Pick your deployment spots better so I can't get it.
Kaylee Veloc Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:58:00 - [24] - Quote Active Scanner?
Rip The Dragon The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:09:00 - [25] - Quote lol i did this as sniper and was first time i drove a tank i say keep it stop looking at sky your tank will drop where you called it in bro keep your area secure and not look at sky its a valid tactic to steal vehicles p.s when i got that tank on was on side lines sniping and i had lest 50 meter run to get to tank after it dropped lol and i killed the guy as tank hit ground
SILVERBACK 02 BetaMax. CRONOS. 81	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:12:00 - [26] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: yeah, cause we should wait 15 seconds...to make is realistic....realistic would be like 30 minutes. The damn thing should spawn instantly. BTW, I was in an out of the way area at the beginning of the match. You people will defend the game mechanics till the day you die...lol Fanboys. yeah....THIS GAME IS PERFECT! If something sucks, why cant you just admit it sucks. If a player calls in a tank, and he dies before the tank gets there, the tank should not spawn. Simple really. oh no...people just gotta say how dumb someone is or L2P or whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better. Kinda sad really. Welcome to new eden... STOP WHINNING, YOUR FAGOTORY WILL GO ON DEATH EARS.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3322	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:16:00 - [27] - Quote Because R.eally D.runk V.ehicles are really drunk?
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Mercenaries 25	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:32:00 - [28] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. Tip from a former tanker, always call ur tank in base spawn or mcc. This has no relations to mmo gameplay lawl
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 6	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:37:00 - [29] - Quote **** yes, if you call in a tank where you are vulnerable then it should be capable of being stolen. Thats why I always find a secure location before calling in anything I care about, now should you be able to lock out teammates yes.
agustis caesar Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:46:00 - [30] - Quote hgghyujh wrote: **** yes, if you call in a tank where you are vulnerable then it should be capable of being stolen. Thats why I always find a secure location before calling in anything I care about, now should you be able to lock out teammates yes. So I see, you should be able to lock out your team mates from jacking your vehicle, but getting killed before the drop ship even appears and then the dousche taking it is a okay. Nice logic.

Athena Etain Black Thorn Elites of EVE 6	Posted - 2013.05.29 05:51:00 - [31] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. I love this feature. IT makes people like you look like the idiots you are. Ok, sorry that was harsh. Just tired of COD retards... Ok sorry that was harsh too. Plainly put, this game focuses on making the battles realistic. in a futuristic sense. If your dumb enough to call in a tank in a place where its not safe, and you get shot, tough luck, deal with it. Here's another thing you may not have realized.. 1) If you don't like it.. Stop playing.... 2) It balances, and makes Alliance wars, battles, corporation battles, much more realistic, and strategic. 3) Just because it doesn't cater to half witted retards, doesn't mean its bad.. Sorry to break it to you. 4) Just because your not reimbursed and your screwed... Doesn't make it bad.. Learn from your mistake like a big boy. 5) Welcome to New Eden, its not meant for half hearted dim wits who have no intelligence. If this game is to tough for you, COD and Hello Kitty Online is that way ----------------> P.S. Yes technically this is EVE Online. Dust 514 is directly linked to EVE Online, it has all the same mechanics as EVE online, or at least all the mechanics which can logically be put into an FPS game. Its unforgiving, just like EVE Online, your in New Eden fighting on planets which actually exist in EVE Online, along with literally altering who controls what in EVE Online.. Arguing this isn't EVE Online so it should be stupid simple with no skill involved game play is not only counter productive, but totally ignorant on so many levels.
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.05.29 06:04:00 - [32] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. Yep it should. Did this to a guy who was calling in a tank at Ob E near blue deployment zone. Was wondering why he was crouched in the middle of the road, so headshot him with a sniper rifle. Tank drops in and blues steal it. Utterly hilarious Don't bring what you can't afford to lose to battle.
Karazantor Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2013.05.29 06:06:00 - [33] - Quote Skipper Jones wrote: You talk about being realistic and then proceed to say it should spawn instantly. OK man OK Fanboy, that's what you people call us now? You mean magic isn't real
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1522	Posted - 2013.05.29 06:37:00 - [34] - Quote Karazantor wrote: Skipper Jones wrote: You talk about being realistic and then proceed to say it should spawn instantly. OK man OK Fanboy, that's what you people call us now? You mean magic isn't real Of course it is, but only Santa and Unicorns can use it. Not mercs silly
Nebra Tene Roaming Blades 11	Posted - 2013.05.29 06:42:00 - [35] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: yeah, cause we should wait 15 seconds...to make is realistic....realistic would be like 30 minutes. The damn thing should spawn instantly. BTW, I was in an out of the way area at the beginning of the match. You people will defend the game mechanics till the day you die...lol Fanboys. yeah....THIS GAME IS PERFECT! If something sucks, why cant you just admit it sucks. If a player calls in a tank, and he dies before the tank gets there, the tank should not spawn. Simple really. oh no...people just gotta say how dumb someone is or L2P or whatever you need to do to make yourselves feel better. Kinda sad really. Insulting anyone who does not agree with you and calling them fanboys is pointless, you can also as easily be labeled as a "hater." for not agreeing with them. Granted, they're not really being the most mature crowd either, but how can you criticize them on how the act or tell them not to act some way, if you act the same or worse than that? Instead of name-calling and labeling others, why not just prove your point? Don't let the trolls here and there drag you to their level. On to the actual point, if what you suggest was the case, then anyone would call their tank mid-battle without having to worry about losing it. It does suck whenever you lose an expensive fit or vehicle, that's why has to be extra careful when using it. Its a risk vs reward kind of thing, you have to realize you're calling what's basically an advantage over regular infantry, can't have everyone doing so instantly. That is also why one shouldn't call in the expensive stuff right away or as soon as they can afford it, but rather practice with the cheap militia stuff first, get the feel for it and see how everything works and when its best to use it, Militia Tanks for example, those things only cost 138k Isk, which can be recovered in one match, you can use those at first to see where are the best positions and times to call them in. Remember, just call in the expensive stuff when you need to or are prepare to lose it. This game is far from perfect, and definitely not for everyone, I would recommend just dropping it if you're not enjoying it and maybe come back in a few weeks or months to see if the game is more enjoyable to you then. Yes, it does have its share of problems as well right now, and if you don't have the patience to deal with them it may be best to step away and wait for the game to be polished a bit more.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 780	Posted - 2013.05.29 07:24:00 - [36] - Quote I just love with when the reds steal my LLAV, for it only to be returned at the end of the matches.
Snaps Tremor The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 284	Posted - 2013.05.29 07:33:00 - [37] - Quote But if the game didn't give you the capacity to fail, we'd never get to find out how bad you are at it.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 21	Posted - 2013.05.29 07:48:00 - [38] - Quote If the driver is killed, it would make sense for the RDV to retreat without dropping the vehicle. This scenario would still give the enemy a chance to destroy the vehicle.
Victin Ashis KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 25	Posted - 2013.05.29 08:30:00 - [39] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. Much like EVE Online the game does not reward stupidity. You were staring up at the sky like a moron while waiting for your tank. Had you of been checking around for enemies like you should have been this never would have happened.
Racro 01 Arifistan Universal Allies Inc. 0	Posted - 2013.05.29 11:54:00 - [40] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: SO I find a side road and call in a tank, low and behold some opposing player comes along and shoots me while I am looking for the drop ship....Why the hell should that tank not disappear? I disappeared, the tank should as well. before you people start saying QQ more or whatever, this is an FPS, not an MMO. It should not be made overly difficult. I understand that this game is meant to be more difficult that your average FPS, but this is ridiculous. So my tank was stolen, along with my time that I put in to buying that tank. Gawd I hate this game. You people may love the difficulty, but the average person will not and soon you'll have no one to play with because better FPS will come along and deposit this one in the turd bin, which is apparently where it belongs. This IS NOT Eve Online. Mechanics like this should not exist. so you choose the worst place to call a tank? why not use your base/mcc

Duran Lex Silver Talon Corporation 1	Posted - 2013.05.29 12:47:00 - [41] - Quote agustis caesar wrote: If something sucks, why cant you just admit it sucks. If a player calls in a tank, and he dies before the tank gets there, the tank should not spawn. Simple really. The tank was spawned the moment your order has been received. When it says "ETA 15 seconds" your tank is already spawned, and heading to your location. What you are proposing is the tank should "de-spawn" or magically disappear because you died. Why exactly? The dropship pilot isn't telepathically linked to you, they have no idea if you died. And the tank isn't symbiotically connected to the person who called it in, so the tank isn't gonna "die" with you. It's assumed you called in for a tank, in friendly territory under favourable circumstances. Regardless of where you called in the order, even if behind the redline, and you get your tank stolen from you : its SOLELY your fault.
Charlotte O'Dell Molon Labe. League of Infamy 347	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:04:00 - [42] - Quote Have your squad prepare an LZ for you. It's what I do and I may have lost 4 tanks ever to that kind of thing.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 171	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:11:00 - [43] - Quote I'm a general appointed valet for tanks. I watch them for you as you return. psh.. what?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3130	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:25:00 - [44] - Quote Two things here... Firstly: agustis caesar wrote: this is an FPS, not an MMO. Actually, it's both. Also: Quote: This IS NOT Eve Online. I'm sorry, but YES IT IS. I don't play the regular version of EVE (my PC can't handle it), but I have friends who do. I know the game well enough to understand. DUST isn't a standalone title. It's part of New Eden, and as such, it's a part of the same game. The first-person perspective and the ground combat doesn't negate that fact that this is still EVE Online. No, I'm not a "fanboy". I've gone on record in public as complaining about a lot of mistakes that CCP have been making in DUST. That doesn't mean every complaint is deserved and legitimate. This one, for example, is a pathetic attempt to remove a legitimate tactic from the game because you don't like being punished for your mistakes. Maybe next time you should try to... NOT screw up? That tends to work slightly better than sucking at the game.
Dregarian IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:32:00 - [45] - Quote In this game, you get penalized for frak'ing up. You lose your equipment, gear, weapons etc. You call in a LAV, HAV whatever and you frak up....guess what....you lose it. Moral of the story.....don't frak up.
Furrow33 Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:43:00 - [46] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: I just love with when the reds steal my LLAV, for it only to be returned at the end of the matches. This will eventually be fixed. If we hack it it should be ours. To use or sell on the market. Soon tm
Needless Sacermendor Red Fox Brigade 266	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:13:00 - [47] - Quote Furrow33 wrote: Rasatsu wrote: I just love with when the reds steal my LLAV, for it only to be returned at the end of the matches. This will eventually be fixed. If we hack it it should be ours. To use or sell on the market. Soon tm This was what I was going to pick up on too ... I think it should just be put into the loot table for the team that stole it, so long as they can keep it alive and in their possession, with the same 50% salvage rate and maybe the expensive hull going to the kill shot of it's owner with the same 50% chance of being able to salvage it. But either way putting the hull and it's fittings into the loot table for the team to sell when the market opens would be good. Edited: but in current state, that's why you should run it into redline before end of match !
steadyhand amarr BetaMax Beta CRONOS. 618	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:39:00 - [48] - Quote This game should not protect you from your mistakes working as intended
Onesimus Tarsus GamersForChrist 197	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:43:00 - [49] - Quote How often does this happen to you? Maybe you should stick to suits. They stick to you.


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