DUST Search - [Odyssey] District satellites and default overviews

Phoenix Archer 128 wrote:

Schalac 17 wrote:

CCP FoxFour wrote:

Schalac 17 wrote:

This is basically CCP giving a big F U to all the people in EVE that want to bomb PC or Merc battles.

CCP FoxFour wrote:

"These satellites however can be added to your overview profile and will only show up on the overview if there is a pilot on grid with the satellite."

So they want people to not be able to bomb anything at all unless you are in a system all by yourself. Considering that you need to stay connected to the district and can't go outside of 10km and have special ammo than can only fire on DUST battles. Even if you bring a fleet to protect the bombing ship everyone is going to know what one it is just because of the restrictions that it is under. DUMB change FoxFour. REAL DUMB.

Or bring friends.

What good do friends do when all the enemy has to do is jump into system, see someone is on beacon and then warp at 70 with an alpha fleet and just pop everything that is sitting on the beacon? Hey guys lets make it EASIER for alphanados in low and null to find targets. THAT sounds like a good idea.

OK, say they "fix" that. ("fix" because I don't see this as a big problem...seriously, even in low you should still have some sort of scouting and intelligence going on when you're doing something like OBing. Scout sees enemy fleet jump into system; everyone should get to safety if they can't fight, right? Or does that make too much sense?)

What happens when they decide to jump in Capitals? Or are you just going to run away from them before they can get their locks off...?


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Schalac 17 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 179	Posted - 2013.05.28 21:29:00 - [1] - Quote This is basically CCP giving a big F U to all the people in EVE that want to bomb PC or Merc battles. CCP FoxFour wrote: "These satellites however can be added to your overview profile and will only show up on the overview if there is a pilot on grid with the satellite." So they want people to not be able to bomb anything at all unless you are in a system all by yourself. Considering that you need to stay connected to the district and can't go outside of 10km and have special ammo than can only fire on DUST battles. Even if you bring a fleet to protect the bombing ship everyone is going to know what one it is just because of the restrictions that it is under. DUMB change FoxFour. REAL DUMB.
Schalac 17 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 180	Posted - 2013.05.29 02:58:00 - [2] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: This is basically CCP giving a big F U to all the people in EVE that want to bomb PC or Merc battles. CCP FoxFour wrote: "These satellites however can be added to your overview profile and will only show up on the overview if there is a pilot on grid with the satellite." So they want people to not be able to bomb anything at all unless you are in a system all by yourself. Considering that you need to stay connected to the district and can't go outside of 10km and have special ammo than can only fire on DUST battles. Even if you bring a fleet to protect the bombing ship everyone is going to know what one it is just because of the restrictions that it is under. DUMB change FoxFour. REAL DUMB. Or bring friends. What good do friends do when all the enemy has to do is jump into system, see someone is on beacon and then warp at 70 with an alpha fleet and just pop everything that is sitting on the beacon? Hey guys lets make it EASIER for alphanados in low and null to find targets. THAT sounds like a good idea.
Schalac 17 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 180	Posted - 2013.05.29 03:18:00 - [3] - Quote Phoenix Archer 128 wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Schalac 17 wrote: This is basically CCP giving a big F U to all the people in EVE that want to bomb PC or Merc battles. CCP FoxFour wrote: "These satellites however can be added to your overview profile and will only show up on the overview if there is a pilot on grid with the satellite." So they want people to not be able to bomb anything at all unless you are in a system all by yourself. Considering that you need to stay connected to the district and can't go outside of 10km and have special ammo than can only fire on DUST battles. Even if you bring a fleet to protect the bombing ship everyone is going to know what one it is just because of the restrictions that it is under. DUMB change FoxFour. REAL DUMB. Or bring friends. What good do friends do when all the enemy has to do is jump into system, see someone is on beacon and then warp at 70 with an alpha fleet and just pop everything that is sitting on the beacon? Hey guys lets make it EASIER for alphanados in low and null to find targets. THAT sounds like a good idea. OK, say they "fix" that. ("fix" because I don't see this as a big problem...seriously, even in low you should still have some sort of scouting and intelligence going on when you're doing something like OBing. Scout sees enemy fleet jump into system; everyone should get to safety if they can't fight, right? Or does that make too much sense?) What happens when they decide to jump in Capitals? Or are you just going to run away from them before they can get their locks off...? Because, before this change the only people that would know the destination would be the people involved in the fight. Now you are going to have every tom **** and harry that sees the beacon warping in without so much as even needing to open their scanner. I mean why even have a D-scan anymore what with CCP making everything in the game a warpable icon on your OV. Just another way that they are dumbing EVE down.
Schalac 17 Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 181	Posted - 2013.05.29 20:12:00 - [4] - Quote Megarom Stingscream wrote: The satellites were already there. Everybody that was hunting for people doing OBs had them already on and had this information available to them. This change is about giving the EVE/DUST link a bit more general EVE population visibility and even that is only in the areas where districts have already been added ie. Molden Heath and FW systems. If it really is a big F U that F U was given already depending on your point of view on the date of migration to Tranquility or the day Planetary Conquest was switched on. It is elementary level tactical thinking how to not have just one district satellite light up for enemies jumping into system. Some basic low sec survival skills of watching the local and dscan for enemies and bailing out as necessary might also become handy. No, if you were above a district and someone wanted to kill you they had to either fly to/D-scan all the districts or probe you down then warp to you. Or, if they were in support of the opposite team in the match they would already know where you were. This was balanced because you could stay above a district in support of your mercs watching your scan and most times noone would come looking for you, even though all they needed to do was open D-scan and find you on the planet. But now, every "1337 g4nk574r" wannabe pirate in EVE is going to know that there is someone on a district and they get a guided tour right to where they are. It is the dumbing down of EVE. I was against letting neutrals see FW plex on OV because of the same reason. It makes no sense that anyone would broadcast a position to just everyone. Could you imagine how fast people would be slaughtered in a real war if they were pinging their GPS to just anyone that is around? It's dumb, it makes no sense from a lore standpoint, and anyone wanting to OB from now on better bring a capital with proper support just to even get the chance to fire it off when your mercs call for it. See CCP wants things to always be like the battle for caldari prime, or battle for asakia, but guess what CCP, most people don't want every pilot in the universe shitting up their battle over a district that will only last 20 minutes. Some people want to just play the game and then move on. If I get gate camped or someone pops in on me after scanning me down, good I accepted that possible fate when I set out to do what I do. But this just willy-nilly adding of icons to the OV needs to stop. Or why not just do away with the scanner all together and just make everything, even cloaked ships, a warpable icon on the OV.