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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2434
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Posted - 2013.05.28 00:33:00 -
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I'll give it at least 3 years before the PS4 finally becomes the most common Sony console in the household. I say this based on the actual history on how consoles tend to take a very long time AFTER they are officially released to become a common item in the market to the point where the previous models are rarely seen in one's living room.
Most of my friends won't even bother ordering the PS4 let alone the Xbox One for several reasons:
SONY's PS4
1. No backwards compatibility.
2. Vague details regarding the use of pre-owned games and how Sony is going to deal with that market.
3. More than likely will become pricey as hell just like the PS3 was.
Microsoft's Xbox One
1. No backward compatibility
2. Installation of the game is mandatory.
3. Must delete installation upon returning the hard copy back to the store.
4. $52 activation fee for every time you install a pre-owned copy.
5. Hardly any improvement towards hardware architecture.
6. Mainly designed for home theater entertainment.
EDIT:
Note: Both consoles will require constant internet connection. For those players who lack internet in their own home and have to borrow their neighbor's internet, they're SOL. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2434
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Posted - 2013.05.28 00:46:00 -
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shade emry3 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I'll give it at least 3 years before the PS4 finally becomes the most common Sony console in the household. I say this based on the actual history on how consoles tend to take a very long time AFTER they are officially released to become a common item in the market to the point where the previous models are rarely seen in one's living room.
Most of my friends won't even bother ordering the PS4 let alone the Xbox One for several reasons:
SONY's PS4
1. No backwards compatibility.
2. Vague details regarding the use of pre-owned games and how Sony is going to deal with that market.
3. More than likely will become pricey as hell just like the PS3 was.
Microsoft's Xbox One
1. No backward compatibility
2. Installation of the game is mandatory.
3. Must delete installation upon returning the hard copy back to the store.
4. $52 activation fee for every time you install a pre-owned copy.
5. Hardly any improvement towards hardware architecture.
6. Mainly designed for home theater entertainment.
EDIT:
Note: Both consoles will require constant internet connection. For those players who lack internet in their own home and have to borrow their neighbor's internet, they're SOL. So is the way of life of cloud computing, and if you read anything at all, the earlier wikis points to a cloud solution their going to use for ps1,2,3 support. I'm sorry to say, but this is a result of piracy as well as an incentive to make money.. Adapt or die, its natures number 1 rule.
One half of my brain wants to say "you're wrong" but the other half knows "you're right" in regards to the incentive to make money. This means I will have to buy a new copy just for an overly-hyped console that is best used to watch the Miami Heat games play in the Eastern Conference.
So, I just hope Comcast improves their internet service by then because they seem to have a habit of crashing my connection every few hours which forces me to reset my modem in the middle of a skirmish match. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2434
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Posted - 2013.05.28 00:49:00 -
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Alucard Fang wrote:What a lie you just posted. The PS4 won't block used games, The Xbox 1 will though with it's Used Game Fee, PS4 does not require an internet connection at all, let alone constant. Neither does the Xbox, though, on Xbox you must sign in at least once every 24 hours.
Read my post again. You seemed to have missed a few details. I didn't say used games won't work on the PS4. I said the PS4 won't be backwards compatible. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2434
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Posted - 2013.05.28 01:00:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Alucard Fang wrote:What a lie you just posted. The PS4 won't block used games, The Xbox 1 will though with it's Used Game Fee, PS4 does not require an internet connection at all, let alone constant. Neither does the Xbox, though, on Xbox you must sign in at least once every 24 hours. Read my post again. You seemed to have missed a few details. I didn't say used games won't work on the PS4. I said the PS4 won't be backwards compatible. You also said that both systems require a constant internet connection which is a lie, or misinformation if you just don't know. So why would we take the rest of your post at face value knowing there is wrong information in it?
The last line is based on what my friends told me. You're right. It could be just rumors. Even if you're right and that the PS4 won't require any internet connection at all, that still doesn't convince me to buy it. I might as well just stick to my current console until it breaks down and then buy a used one if they are available. If they do run out of PS3s in the market, then I guess I'll have to bend over and allow a console company to probe me.
Can you bend over with me? I'm sure you're next as well. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2434
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Posted - 2013.05.28 01:08:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Baal Roo wrote:I'm glad they're cutting used games out of the market. Developers will make A LOT more money towards developing better games. Buying used games is ethically much shadier than pirating.
If I were a developer I'd rather you play my game for free, than pay SOMEONE ELSE to play my game. In each case, I would make no money, but at least if you pirate it some third party isn't making a profit off of my work. If they really do make it so that things like Gamefly and Gamestop go away then they are taking a step in the wrong direction. Used games, rented games and shared games are nothing to scoff at and honestly after seeing what Xbox 1 is turning into I doubt I will be purchasing that system. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw
Don't remind me of that video. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2434
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Posted - 2013.05.28 01:16:00 -
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Baal Roo wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:Baal Roo wrote:I'm glad they're cutting used games out of the market. Developers will make A LOT more money towards developing better games. Buying used games is ethically much shadier than pirating.
If I were a developer I'd rather you play my game for free, than pay SOMEONE ELSE to play my game. In each case, I would make no money, but at least if you pirate it some third party isn't making a profit off of my work. If they really do make it so that things like Gamefly and Gamestop go away then they are taking a step in the wrong direction. Used games, rented games and shared games are nothing to scoff at and honestly after seeing what Xbox 1 is turning into I doubt I will be purchasing that system. Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw Buying used saves you what? $5 usually? And for that $5 savings you screw the developer out of making ANY money off the sale? It's a terrible and selfish practice, and frankly, it's only legal because making it illegal is too difficult to enforce. If game prices on consoles scaled based on age and popularity like they do for PC, no one would care about buying used. I haven't paid full price for a videogame in years, and I never buy used... then again, I never buy my games on little plastic discs either.
Is it any more shady than how EA and Activision operates? Don't get me wrong. Developers should profit, but should they be allowed to profit in a way that kind of screws over the players?
I mean, seriously. A $52 fee for installing a pre-owned copy of a game on the Xbox One? How much do pre-owned copies usually cost? $20 or $30 depending on how long you wait? Then having to cough up an additional $52 because the developers got greedy? That's practically $72-$82 right there. I might as well buy a brand new copy for $60. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2438
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Posted - 2013.05.28 01:35:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CkF_gm1lPA |
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