DUST Search - heavies are not meant for point defense!!!

D legendary hero wrote:

as another point, yes this is a video game. what is the point of a video game? what is the point to a game? to have fun.
heavies as it is have a difficult time have said "fun" because we can't get to where the action is and contribute to the game. Do you think it is fun to camp in a corner and wait for enemies to pass by you to attack? Do you find it fun to get killed by said enemy because they do much more damage and are much more mobile?

ok, so i already know your response. "if you want to engage the enemy (aka having fun) use an assault or logi suit". ok so now you've just told me that the heavy suit is useless and there is no reason to spec 5million points into it. gotcha. next, "if you want to play on the front lines you gotta use, a tac, glu, or gek" because there is no point to using any other gun on the front lines.

if you want point defense you might as well, use a sniper in a logi suit with damage mods because i take zero damage as a sniper (im too far), and i can deal more damage than a heavy anyway.

so what conclusion do we have? we have a game where you have limited choice in effective weapons and loadouts. hmmm... sounds like Cod to me. might as well play that.

i speaking about balance. if you want an unbalanced FPS then play Cod, or BF.


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Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 812	Posted - 2013.05.30 20:51:00 - [1] - Quote We're all running around in Iron Man suits, your reference to realism is invalid. facepalm But really, people need to learn to read the writing on the wall. I may be mistaken, but the HMG was never defined as a point-defense weapon, the SENTINEL suit was defined as point defense, featuring more defense, less mobility, and lower damage output. sen-+ti-+nel (snt-nl) n. One that keeps guard; a sentry. tr.v. sen-+ti-+neled or sen-+ti-+nelled, sen-+ti-+nel-+ing or sen-+ti-+nel-+ling, sen-+ti-+nels 1. To watch over as a guard. 2. To provide with a guard. 3. To post as a guard. Well ok that makes sense then. The SUIT is designed to take a lot of damage but not move around much....so a guard, alright, cool. Has it ever occurred to anyone that additional Heavy Frame specialty suits will be coming out. Obviously we have Commando but that's ot a HMG user so I wont get into that. But there will likely be a another Heavy Frame Specialty that comes with oh I dont know...a bonus to HMG range or damage per level, featuring lower defenses than the Sentinel but is more mobile and flexible in combat? The game isn't complete, never will be, its ever changing. But before you get your iron panties in a bunch and start quoting a bunch of real world wiki pages like it actually has any real relevance to a video game, stop and consider that what you're looking for is probably already on the pipeline for development. You want to make a suggestion for something you want? Great! But think a little before you get all uppity about the role not playing exactly like you want it to yet.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 812	Posted - 2013.05.31 06:48:00 - [2] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: as another point, yes this is a video game. what is the point of a video game? what is the point to a game? to have fun. heavies as it is have a difficult time have said "fun" because we can't get to where the action is and contribute to the game. Do you think it is fun to camp in a corner and wait for enemies to pass by you to attack? Do you find it fun to get killed by said enemy because they do much more damage and are much more mobile? ok, so i already know your response. "if you want to engage the enemy (aka having fun) use an assault or logi suit". ok so now you've just told me that the heavy suit is useless and there is no reason to spec 5million points into it. gotcha. next, "if you want to play on the front lines you gotta use, a tac, glu, or gek" because there is no point to using any other gun on the front lines. if you want point defense you might as well, use a sniper in a logi suit with damage mods because i take zero damage as a sniper (im too far), and i can deal more damage than a heavy anyway. so what conclusion do we have? we have a game where you have limited choice in effective weapons and loadouts. hmmm... sounds like Cod to me. might as well play that. i speaking about balance. if you want an unbalanced FPS then play Cod, or BF. My point was that the Heavy Frame isn't for point defense That's the Sentinels job. So when you say "THE HEAVY ISNT FOR POINT DEFENSE" you're right, because it's not intended to be. the HMG is for area denial, much like a mass driver or a flaylock. It's not for covering fire or assaulting, its for making certain chokepoints impassible. This does not mean that the Heavy Frame is ONLY for sitting in one spot like a turret, it's for moving around and forcing the enemy to move where the team needs them to go. This is very useful when in very tight quarters where you need to force enemies into choke points to be torn apart by friendly assault roles. Does this provide much of a role when running solo? No not really, but this is a team based game after all.