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UK-Shots
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Posted - 2013.05.27 11:59:00 -
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you people moaning about not getting the skill respec as expected are starting to sound like little brats.
thank you |
Bad Heal
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:00:00 -
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Kill4fornia
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:03:00 -
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same UK-Shots as in BFBC? |
sgtBelson
S.e.V.e.N. Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:03:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:you people moaning about not getting the skill respec as expected are starting to sound like little brats.
thank you
*Ding ding ding*
We have a winner.
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Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:04:00 -
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They don't care what they sound like.
They have a right to complain. It was said the first batch of skill respecs would begin Monday and once again everyone got the rug yanked from under their feet last minute with CCP once again saying "soon".
They have the right to whine now Imo. |
UK-Shots
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:08:00 -
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Kill4fornia wrote:same UK-Shots as in BFBC?
yep |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:11:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:Kill4fornia wrote:same UK-Shots as in BFBC? yep
HIGH FIVE |
Kill4fornia
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:11:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:Kill4fornia wrote:same UK-Shots as in BFBC? yep oh cool, this is xMFHxCeltics lol. been long time man. |
Dusty Sampson
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:48:00 -
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You see those delicious apples over there at the fruit stand? The sign says "Apples, only -Ñ35!" Dirt cheap and delicious looking, so you buy one. As soon as you take a bite *poof!* your mouth stings and your eyes water as you realize that that apple you bit into turned into a raw onion. You look at the guy running the apple stand as he flips his sign around and changes his stock from apples to onions and tells you "Sorry, I was only selling apples a few minutes ago. Deal with it."
Congratulations! Now you know how people who were promised their respec today feel like. |
UK-Shots
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:14:00 -
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ok folks enough of the g a y jokes ..specialy when its from a g a y broke bi tch like you a low |
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:22:00 -
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meh, just continue to gain more sp, and when it finally does come you will have more to place into ****** skills so you can start demanding more reespecs next week. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:27:00 -
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I agree w/ the OP. Did they say respecs would be today? I can't find where it said that.... this is about all I could find:
"Update on the respec/reset status:
We are currently planning to roll respec/reset out this week to players that applied. We will announce exact date in the individual downtime announcement when it is about to happen.
Thank you."
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77103&p=4
post #74
And I haven't seen a downtime announcement with an SP respec advisory.
So yeah... at least we know they plan to put it in motion this week.
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Serah Phymne
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:28:00 -
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
It's our right to complain when promises are not kept. The idea that complaining is a bad thing seems to be something that's come up with the new generation. That it's better to fanboy up things you like and turn a blind eye to the things you don't.
Games get better with constructive criticism and people pointing out flaws to be corrected. Not by people saying that flaws don't matter and that they should be ignored.
It is threads like this that lead to the downfall of Bioware and other companies. Where fanboys fed an egotistical games maker into thinking they could make a poor game and it would sell well.
You are yes men to this company.
And yes men cause more damage than those who can objectively look at something in the hopes of making it better. |
UK-Shots
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:31:00 -
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Serah Phymne wrote:"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
It's our right to complain when promises are not kept. The idea that complaining is a bad thing seems to be something that's come up with the new generation. That it's better to fanboy up things you like and turn a blind eye to the things you don't.
Games get better with constructive criticism and people pointing out flaws to be corrected. Not by people saying that flaws don't matter and that they should be ignored.
It is threads like this that lead to the downfall of Bioware and other companies. Where fanboys fed an egotistical games maker into thinking they could make a poor game and it would sell well.
You are yes men to this company.
And yes men cause more damage than those who can objectively look at something in the hopes of making it better.
not a fan boy. just that the forum is litterd with whiny post about not getting the recpec today. its just doing nothin but making the thread creator look like a brat |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:32:00 -
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Serah Phymne wrote:"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
It's our right to complain when promises are not kept. The idea that complaining is a bad thing seems to be something that's come up with the new generation. That it's better to fanboy up things you and turn a blind eye to the things you don't.
Games get better with constructive criticism and people pointing out flaws to be corrected. Not by people saying that flaws don't matter and that they should be ignored.
It is threads like this that lead to the downfall of Bioware and other companies. Where fanboys fed an egotistical games maker into thinking they could make a poor game and it would sell well.
You are yes men to this company.
And yes men cause more damage than those who can objectively look at something in the hopes of making it better.
I agree that you deserve the respec, and if they turned around and told everyone no their will be no respecs, you'd be fully in your right to complain.
what I suspect though is, that if they haven't done a respec yet because they have other things to do, for example maybe balance the tac AR so nobody wastes their SP and demands a respec again.
I don't know I just figure when they are ready you will get it, and not a moment before, even if that means delays, oh well. they pushed uprising early and look where that got us... |
Serah Phymne
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.27 13:49:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:Serah Phymne wrote:"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
It's our right to complain when promises are not kept. The idea that complaining is a bad thing seems to be something that's come up with the new generation. That it's better to fanboy up things you and turn a blind eye to the things you don't.
Games get better with constructive criticism and people pointing out flaws to be corrected. Not by people saying that flaws don't matter and that they should be ignored.
It is threads like this that lead to the downfall of Bioware and other companies. Where fanboys fed an egotistical games maker into thinking they could make a poor game and it would sell well.
You are yes men to this company.
And yes men cause more damage than those who can objectively look at something in the hopes of making it better. I agree that you deserve the respec, and if they turned around and told everyone no their will be no respecs, you'd be fully in your right to complain. what I suspect though is, that if they haven't done a respec yet because they have other things to do, for example maybe balance the tac AR so nobody wastes their SP and demands a respec again. I don't know I just figure when they are ready you will get it, and not a moment before, even if that means delays, oh well. they pushed uprising early and look where that got us... the saying of good men doing nothing doesn't apply to people just being impatient
Your post would make a lot of sense if they didn't say the first wave would go out on Monday (They did say this by the way).
And it's not difficult to discern between impatience and not getting what you were promised and in a reasonable time frame.
It's called common sense.
There isn't just one man at CCP responsible for both balance and the skill respecs. To think this is folly and I'd point you to the common sense reference above.
If CCP as a company cannot handle the changing of numbers on the TAC AR and issuing the round of respecs they promised, then they need to have a good long look at their company makeup and make adjustments. |
Lilah Silverstone
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:27:00 -
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Seems like everybody skipped the line where CCP said the date was subject to change, and/or expects CCP to operate with maximum efficiency 24/7... |
Infekti0n
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:34:00 -
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Seriously UK-Shot why would you care what other people want? Why would you care what they type on the forums, WHY! Then you make a NEW TOPIC with no relevance filled with unwanted oppinions and plain insults. And YOUR the one calling people brats?! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttt... |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:36:00 -
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Many ppl on this forum are whiny - no disputing that
But just look at the amount of PR blunders CCP continue to make and its hard to not side with them some of the times.
Here is a little scenario - suppose you work alot with little off time and you scheduled an off day after hearing the roll out would start Monday (when you know you were one of the firsts to submit) and your support ticket had been closed. You log in and ......
I think CCP should really learn one rule about any type of service providing - Under promise so you can Over deliver - dont hype what you cannot guarantee.
If they had just stuck to their comment of rolling them out this week and them being finished by the 31st they could avoid most of this. |
Phantomnom
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:40:00 -
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Sad-acts need to go outside and find more depth to their life rather than holding up promises that were never made by a company running a free game lololol.
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Phantomnom
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:42:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Many ppl on this forum are whiny - no disputing that
But just look at the amount of PR blunders CCP continue to make and its hard to not side with them some of the times.
Here is a little scenario - suppose you work alot with little off time and you scheduled an off day after hearing the roll out would start Monday (when you know you were one of the firsts to submit) and your support ticket had been closed. You log in and ......
I think CCP should really learn one rule about any type of service providing - Under promise so you can Over deliver - dont hype what you cannot guarantee.
I think you need to learn to read before booking time off work chief, they never promised you anything, and up until the 31st owe you nothing.
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DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:44:00 -
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Serah Phymne wrote:Trimmed by your's truly. Its the expectations people set themselves that are annoying. Its not fanboy-ism. Its not being a "yes man". Its getting annoyed with CONSTANTLY seeing someone complain about something. Constructive criticism gets buried in all the whine topics. Before taking the time to make a post feigning intelligence, take a step back and look at the big picture and assess the real situation opposed to what is believed to happen. |
Infekti0n
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.27 14:53:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Sad-acts need to go outside and find more depth to their life rather than holding up promises that were never made by a company running a free game lololol.
HAHHAAHAHAHAHA. Ohw man, well written. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:15:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Many ppl on this forum are whiny - no disputing that
But just look at the amount of PR blunders CCP continue to make and its hard to not side with them some of the times.
Here is a little scenario - suppose you work alot with little off time and you scheduled an off day after hearing the roll out would start Monday (when you know you were one of the firsts to submit) and your support ticket had been closed. You log in and ......
I think CCP should really learn one rule about any type of service providing - Under promise so you can Over deliver - dont hype what you cannot guarantee.
I think you need to learn to read before booking time off work chief, they never promised you anything, and up until the 31st owe you nothing.
I like how you guys try to make everything personal. I dint say the scenario was true but only related it from the threads that popped up when Uprising was about to drop and then the ire that came out of the staggered release etc.
I also didnt say they owe me anything but it adds to bad publicity this company continues to heap on itself for no apparent reason.
I posted last week that people should calm down and not expect anything before the 31st and sure enough what did a CCP person do - jump on the forum and say that respecs will be rolling out Monday - dumb move.
Same with the staggered release - same with not having all basic dropsuits in but some specialized after they show off what the suits will mostly look like and say they have the values already worked out - same with not even crafting a proper message once the system closed the respec tickets. Should I go on?
Its not that they owe anybody anything, its that they should know how to handle their customer better, especially if they want to grow the game into a AAA game. |
Phantomnom
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:20:00 -
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They offered a free respec they didn't need to give and set themselves a deadline for the 31st. They nicely tried to jump their own deadline and get it rolling out faster for you. Once it doesn't turn up you all slam them and proclaim bad PR as the set up, even though the respecs are still coming and the deadline is still there.
This isn't bad PR, no company on earth has the PR department that could keep you whiny vaginas happy. |
grreen mctree
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:52:00 -
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[quote=Phantomnom][b]They offered a free respec they didn't need to give and set themselves a deadline for the 31st. They nicely tried to jump their own deadline and get it rolling out faster for you. Once it doesn't turn up you all slam them and proclaim bad PR as the set up, even though the respecs are still coming and the deadline is still there.
This isn't bad PR, no company on earth has the PR department that could keep you whiny vaginas
Are ccp gentle when you spread for em? |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:57:00 -
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We didn't need another respec in the first place. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:07:00 -
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they gave us 1 respect all ready, they didn't have to do it again, I to am waiting for a respect, and even I am getting sick of the multiple threads on this subject, it will come when it comes, all this gime gime gime... they gave you a fee game, if you think ccp are bad, dear god never buy a ubisoft game..... if I were ccp and everyone moaned id say you know what, screw ur respect, ill give it to the quite guy in the corner, and its a bank holiday here in uk, maybe it is where they are ? ? ? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:11:00 -
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grreen mctree wrote:
Are ccp gentle when you spread for em?
Oh he loves it and then thinks that load on his face is milk and honey.
While missing the whole point!!!!!!!
If they wanted to over deliver they would keep their mouth shut, not close out the tickets until they actually processed the respec and then went about their business rolling them out. Once they were done (hopefully before the 31st they can post to their hearts content)
Same with Uprising - bring in all one time dont announce, then stagger then bring in some content while leaving other stuff till later.
Yeah they didnt have to give respecs - they could have just refunded and been on their merry way but they chose to, then chose to jump the gun - who do you want to blame for that now.
Once again - some stuff people whine about but some stuff CCP open themselves up for.
Similar with weapons / vehicles - they simply need to state whether things are working as intended or they are still balancing or not sure which whey they want to go. Some of this they just remain silent on and leave CPM guys to do their best.
Anyway too much rant when I just really wanted to say that some things are acceptable to complain about and CCP really should do a better job with relating to their playerbase and some of the things are simple and straightforward. |
bonkersfox
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:18:00 -
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seriously, you guys should of played far cry 3, couldn't get in matches on day 1 nothing got fixed till after the Christmas holiday, nearly 3 weeks without an online mode, 4 months later still being kicked from servers, the devs on the fourm stopped posting completely, then they admit it was never beta tested and weren't bothering to fix it as they had to work on far cry 4, so they could steal our money all over again.... GIVE CCP A BREAK, |
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