DUST Search - ("ONLY WANT TO HEAR FROM DEVS") on the TAC ARs

karonzon wrote:

are you gonna leave them in of fix them or anything there a easy mode gone killing everything and they have no counter why not give the HMG real dmg and range to counter or how bout this put a rock in the game that instantly kills who ever it is thrown at even if it misses, makes more sence then a tac ar shooting as fast at a ar full auto with no heat build up or even any true kick are they using plasma or iron based ammo look at how many ppl hate this type of weapon and do something or just ignore it and **** ppl of and if your leaving it in because of the more ppl like it because they use it then wow WTF you say ballancei say realy where show me prove it and i will be quite there is no ballance in this game a pistol does mre then a HMG i mean get real wake up dont act like you were dropped on your flat top or you were beat just about to death with a F U C K T A R D stick act and program like you have a brain.
ty and yes i am pissed off at stupidity use logic not whim

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karonzon D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:03:00 - [1] - Quote are you gonna leave them in of fix them or anything there a easy mode gone killing everything and they have no counter why not give the HMG real dmg and range to counter or how bout this put a rock in the game that instantly kills who ever it is thrown at even if it misses, makes more sence then a tac ar shooting as fast at a ar full auto with no heat build up or even any true kick are they using plasma or iron based ammo look at how many ppl hate this type of weapon and do something or just ignore it and **** ppl of and if your leaving it in because of the more ppl like it because they use it then wow WTF you say ballancei say realy where show me prove it and i will be quite there is no ballance in this game a pistol does mre then a HMG i mean get real wake up dont act like you were dropped on your flat top or you were beat just about to death with a F U C K T A R D stick act and program like you have a brain. ty and yes i am pissed off at stupidity use logic not whim
karonzon D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:09:00 - [2] - Quote lasers dont do more dmg as they heat up it is a photon not plasma dumb tell me any laws of science that says photons heat up if you heat up a lens that focuses a photon it gets worse not better and then the particals in the air that reduce the dmg over distances am i wrong?
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 76	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:12:00 - [3] - Quote karonzon wrote: are you gonna leave them in of fix them or anything there a easy mode gone killing everything and they have no counter why not give the HMG real dmg and range to counter or how bout this put a rock in the game that instantly kills who ever it is thrown at even if it misses, makes more sence then a tac ar shooting as fast at a ar full auto with no heat build up or even any true kick are they using plasma or iron based ammo look at how many ppl hate this type of weapon and do something or just ignore it and **** ppl of and if your leaving it in because of the more ppl like it because they use it then wow WTF you say ballancei say realy where show me prove it and i will be quite there is no ballance in this game a pistol does mre then a HMG i mean get real wake up dont act like you were dropped on your flat top or you were beat just about to death with a F U C K T A R D stick act and program like you have a brain. ty and yes i am pissed off at stupidity use logic not whim I would bet -ú100 that the devs will read this once and click away instantly.
karonzon D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:16:00 - [4] - Quote then it proves they dont care how pissed ppl are getting about the TAR
karonzon D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:17:00 - [5] - Quote im tired of asking for them to look at it, how long have the TARs been easy mode rapeing ppl
karonzon D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:21:00 - [6] - Quote plus from what ihave seen in all the posts i have been reading they only do anything if alot of ppl get mad not passive you want to be a passive sheep then do so it is your right just as it is my right to be mad against stupidity
karonzon D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:26:00 - [7] - Quote and the only ppl saying that i have seen just leave it alone untill more weapons come out is the imps, if that is the only reason they havent done anything then it shows favoritism, and then i guess we know why. put them in game history, do a imps vs. creators game hell give them a whole solar system i dont care just fix the weapons
Rjaan The Enclave Syndicate 0	Posted - 2013.05.27 06:45:00 - [8] - Quote I'm fully in support of a TAR nerfing, so bullshi+ higher rate of fire than full auto weapon (dafuq does that work) ridiculous damage, not to forget the crazy range.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.05.27 08:27:00 - [9] - Quote Yes, OP. The TAR needs to be nerfed. Do I want this? No. Is it necessary? Yes. Please contact your CPM as well.
Jenova's Witness Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 43	Posted - 2013.05.27 08:31:00 - [10] - Quote I've kind of given up on this. Just been using LAVs to run people over because it's the only balanced weapon in the game right now.

Dale Templar Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 9	Posted - 2013.05.27 10:25:00 - [11] - Quote Oh hey another TAR thread, awesome, just awesome.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.05.27 10:49:00 - [12] - Quote The number of these threads will only increase if nothing is done I'm afraid. Especially if respec day comes, and people spec into TacAR/Assault. The tactical is currently very fun to use, but I have to admit, they over did it. The Tactical AR is in need of urgent rebalancing. Better to have it rebalanced BEFORE respec instead of after.
SATAN'S PRODIGY D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 0	Posted - 2013.05.27 11:27:00 - [13] - Quote Dale Templar wrote: Oh hey another TAR thread, awesome, just awesome. Until they say they are going to fix it. I am going to complain about it. My HMG is so disproportionately bad it makes the Heavy unplayable. (It weighs me down to a literal crawl and has the punch/range of my 80-year-old grandmother).
Raze galder Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2013.05.27 13:11:00 - [14] - Quote Jathniel wrote: The number of these threads will only increase if nothing is done I'm afraid. Especially if respec day comes, and people spec into TacAR/Assault. The tactical is currently very fun to use, but I have to admit, they over did it. The Tactical AR is in need of urgent rebalancing. Better to have it rebalanced BEFORE respec instead of after. Yea but the qq for a re spec if they nerf it will be great cause people won't have any easy time anymore pages upon pages of whining
Valmar Shadereaver GUNNING HEAVY STYLE 18	Posted - 2013.05.27 13:37:00 - [15] - Quote Tactical AR more range more damage same rate of fire at proto extra clip size Burst AR less damage same range slower rate of fire Breach AR more damage less range lower rate of fire its obvius the tactical has gained a to huge advantage compared to the burst and breach more range and more damage? usualy mora range wuild decrease damage single fire shud have less rate of fire so id have to vote for nerf on Tactical AR and slight buff's on breach and burst so that they actualy become less obselite compared to the normal AR need for respec after tactical get's nerfed isent needed the other variant's of AR are stil good enof to use just wanting a dirent weapon cause the atm op tactical get's nerfed to a reasonable lvl's wuildend make sense
Draco Cerberus Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.05.27 14:01:00 - [16] - Quote The TAC AR is a level 4-5 weapon, it's only OP because you need more skill to use it. The people who put SP into weapons are the people who also put SP into proficiency which increases damage. No, it will not part the red sea like moses's staff. This is an SP investment that people have made. Respect the TAC AR.
Draco Cerberus Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 64	Posted - 2013.05.27 14:15:00 - [17] - Quote SATAN'S PRODIGY wrote: Dale Templar wrote: Oh hey another TAR thread, awesome, just awesome. Until they say they are going to fix it. I am going to complain about it. My HMG is so disproportionately bad it makes the Heavy unplayable. (It weighs me down to a literal crawl and has the punch/range of my 80-year-old grandmother). This was fixed already, do you use a Boundless HMG? I saw a member in my corp lay a pile of bodies at my feet 30-0 deep with his and let me tell you, I thought at first why not go on the forums and QQ about it being overpowered? Then I thought oh wait, right the HMG is supposed to do that. Just like the Boundless HMG, the Duvolle TAC AR is a level 5 weapon, one that requires SP to use and should be able to cut a swath of destruction. Stop QQing about something that is functioning as it is supposed to and start fixing how you play.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.05.27 15:14:00 - [18] - Quote Raze galder wrote: Jathniel wrote: The number of these threads will only increase if nothing is done I'm afraid. Especially if respec day comes, and people spec into TacAR/Assault. The tactical is currently very fun to use, but I have to admit, they over did it. The Tactical AR is in need of urgent rebalancing. Better to have it rebalanced BEFORE respec instead of after. Yea but the qq for a re spec if they nerf it will be great cause people won't have any easy time anymore pages upon pages of whining That's the point. If they rebalance the Tactical AR, AFTER the respec day, the amount of crying will be horrendous. If they do it beforehand, then many people will likely spec into the roles they actually want to play instead of Tactical AR roles they feel they HAVE to spec into in order to win and/or be competitive.
Jathniel G I A N T EoN. 383	Posted - 2013.05.27 15:22:00 - [19] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: SATAN'S PRODIGY wrote: Dale Templar wrote: Oh hey another TAR thread, awesome, just awesome. Until they say they are going to fix it. I am going to complain about it. My HMG is so disproportionately bad it makes the Heavy unplayable. (It weighs me down to a literal crawl and has the punch/range of my 80-year-old grandmother). This was fixed already, do you use a Boundless HMG? I saw a member in my corp lay a pile of bodies at my feet 30-0 deep with his and let me tell you, I thought at first why not go on the forums and QQ about it being overpowered? Then I thought oh wait, right the HMG is supposed to do that. Just like the Boundless HMG, the Duvolle TAC AR is a level 5 weapon, one that requires SP to use and should be able to cut a swath of destruction. Stop QQing about something that is functioning as it is supposed to and start fixing how you play. I can take a Duvy Tac, and cut a proto Heavy down in 9-12 rounds... 5 rounds or less if I hit him in the head. Doesn't matter if he's using a Boundless or not. I'm talking CQC to closer mid-range. He's too slow to do anything about it. That's too potent. It takes skill to use a Tactical when you ADS, but it's easy mode when you hip fire. The thing is way too efficient CQC... SP investment be damned, it's OP. In PC, vs. stronger corps... it's all you're going to see their top assault guys use. Duvy is old school and obsolete. Duvy TAR is the new weapon of choice.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 224	Posted - 2013.05.27 16:05:00 - [20] - Quote Raze galder wrote: Jathniel wrote: The number of these threads will only increase if nothing is done I'm afraid. Especially if respec day comes, and people spec into TacAR/Assault. The tactical is currently very fun to use, but I have to admit, they over did it. The Tactical AR is in need of urgent rebalancing. Better to have it rebalanced BEFORE respec instead of after. Yea but the qq for a re spec if they nerf it will be great cause people won't have any easy time anymore pages upon pages of whining Still hoping that they give everyone their respec and then the day after all of the them have been used (probably mostly to spec into Caldari Logi and DTAR) they drop a hotfix on both of them with a "No Respecs until next build at the earliest" announcement.

Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 225	Posted - 2013.05.27 16:06:00 - [21] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Raze galder wrote: Jathniel wrote: The number of these threads will only increase if nothing is done I'm afraid. Especially if respec day comes, and people spec into TacAR/Assault. The tactical is currently very fun to use, but I have to admit, they over did it. The Tactical AR is in need of urgent rebalancing. Better to have it rebalanced BEFORE respec instead of after. Yea but the qq for a re spec if they nerf it will be great cause people won't have any easy time anymore pages upon pages of whining That's the point. If they rebalance the Tactical AR, AFTER the respec day, the amount of crying will be horrendous. If they do it beforehand, then many people will likely spec into the roles they actually want to play instead of Tactical AR roles they feel they HAVE to spec into in order to win and/or be competitive. The QQ would be epicly entertaining though.
Kaathe DUST University Ivy League 63	Posted - 2013.05.27 16:33:00 - [22] - Quote Just wait until other weapons come out. Besides, it is a skill point based weapon. So it's going to be powerful and hated. Scrambler Rifle is one potential counter. Just wait for the other. Or...don't walk out in No Man's Land.
Draco Cerberus Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 68	Posted - 2013.05.29 23:50:00 - [23] - Quote When Combat Rifles are introduced they will fill the role soon to be vacated by the TARs. What then? More complaining? I say no! The weapon is there because the Combat Rifles will have that range and damage. Come up with a counter, you're going to need it.
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 78	Posted - 2013.05.30 02:02:00 - [24] - Quote karonzon wrote: are you gonna leave them in of fix them or anything there a easy mode gone killing everything and they have no counter why not give the HMG real dmg and range to counter or how bout this put a rock in the game that instantly kills who ever it is thrown at even if it misses, makes more sence then a tac ar shooting as fast at a ar full auto with no heat build up or even any true kick are they using plasma or iron based ammo look at how many ppl hate this type of weapon and do something or just ignore it and **** ppl of and if your leaving it in because of the more ppl like it because they use it then wow WTF you say ballancei say realy where show me prove it and i will be quite there is no ballance in this game a pistol does mre then a HMG i mean get real wake up dont act like you were dropped on your flat top or you were beat just about to death with a F U C K T A R D stick act and program like you have a brain. ty and yes i am pissed off at stupidity use logic not whim Calm down. Devs are addressing TAC-ARs.


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