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XeroTheBigBoss
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:44:00 -
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joshua walcott wrote:ive been playing dust for roughly two and a half months,while i read the forums i realised somthing. most ppl dont know they are other weapons in game and decide that if an AR cant kill it nerf it. not every1 wants to bunny hop and spray bullets around i personally prefer to snipe.if u want to kill vehicles spec into av and dont whine because ur ARs cant kill them,they not supposed 2.
The problem with the AR in this build is you are just having to Spray and Pray 7-10. When I kill the experienced Scout players I am not even hitting them I am missing completely and WAAY off but I get the kill, lol! |
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:57:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:joshua walcott wrote:ive been playing dust for roughly two and a half months,while i read the forums i realised somthing. most ppl dont know they are other weapons in game and decide that if an AR cant kill it nerf it. not every1 wants to bunny hop and spray bullets around i personally prefer to snipe.if u want to kill vehicles spec into av and dont whine because ur ARs cant kill them,they not supposed 2. The problem with the AR in this build is you are just having to Spray and Pray 7-10. When I kill the experienced Scout players I am not even hitting them I am missing completely and WAAY off but I get the kill, lol! Actually, I have firsthand experience to know that scouts hate fully-automatic inaccurate weapons. I feel more safe going after a gun that shoots perfectly straight than an HMG that's firing in a cone. I can't dodge a cone.
Well the reason why HMG kill Scouts is because it shoots so fast once the real body is tracked it's dead. It shoots at such a rapid speed you can't avoid the ROF. AR isn't as fast ROF so Scouts can be fast and get away because it is almost impossible for AR to hit fast scouts.
Which is why if this isn't a flaw in the game and I am starting to think it's not. CCP is implementing Rock Paper Scissor or (Holy Trinity) system into their "MMO" Most MMOs have the holy trinity system. Tank, DPS, Healer.
Here you have
Heavy>Light
Light>Medium
Medium>Heavy
This doesn't mean other roles can't beat others but I am starting to think they purposely made the aim like this to implement Holy Trinity. |
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:47:00 -
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XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:joshua walcott wrote:ive been playing dust for roughly two and a half months,while i read the forums i realised somthing. most ppl dont know they are other weapons in game and decide that if an AR cant kill it nerf it. not every1 wants to bunny hop and spray bullets around i personally prefer to snipe.if u want to kill vehicles spec into av and dont whine because ur ARs cant kill them,they not supposed 2. The problem with the AR in this build is you are just having to Spray and Pray 7-10. When I kill the experienced Scout players I am not even hitting them I am missing completely and WAAY off but I get the kill, lol! Actually, I have firsthand experience to know that scouts hate fully-automatic inaccurate weapons. I feel more safe going after a gun that shoots perfectly straight than an HMG that's firing in a cone. I can't dodge a cone. This doesn't mean other roles can't beat others.
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:58:00 -
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Most scouts are running Knives and Shotgun. Therefore that would be why it plays into Heavies strength of strong rapid fire CqC. Scouts that run AR build would be the exception saying "This doesn't mean other roles can't beat others."
Scouts in CqC gunfights with the Assault class would prove greatly difficult as they are so fast you have to spray and pray. In long range however the Medium has the advantage over the Light because when trading dmg the Medium has more health and will outlast the light in long range combat.
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:29:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I have experience in these situations as a scout. Heavies don't move quickly enough to deal with a scout in melee range. Assaults do.
To get close to a heavy that close to melee him you have to sneak attack him. In the case of catching a enemy off gaurd ANYTHING can kill ANYTHING which is why catching a enemy off guard is so effective. To say you just run at heavies and own them with Melee all the time you are clearly playing against the worlds biggest idiots, OR just catching Heavies off guard. I can promise you if you try to fight a heavy (FIGHT not catch one off guard) You will get lit up. Meaning I have 100M Isk that Cubs would beat you at least 7-10 times in a confrontation Melee vs Heavy I would even give you some help and let you use Nova/Shotgun. He would still beat you. |
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:35:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I have experience in these situations as a scout. Heavies don't move quickly enough to deal with a scout in melee range. Assaults do. To get close to a heavy that close to melee him you have to sneak attack him. In the case of catching a enemy off gaurd ANYTHING can kill ANYTHING which is why catching a enemy off guard is so effective. To say you just run at heavies and own them with Melee all the time you are clearly playing against the worlds biggest idiots, OR just catching Heavies off guard. I can promise you if you try to fight a heavy (FIGHT not catch one off guard) You will get lit up. Meaning I have 100M Isk that Cubs would beat you at least 7-10 times in a confrontation Melee vs Heavy I would even give you some help and let you use Nova/Shotgun. He would still beat you. I catch them off guard, but still more easily than assaults. Heavies are easier to sneak up on for 2 reasons. They have the worst scanning stats, and they're usually cocky and don't watch their back.
So than that makes your argument flawed... You are trying to say Light beats Heavy because you can catch them off guard? Lol you can do the same to medium medium can catch light off guard anything can catch anything off guard. So to make a argument that something is better by catching enemies off guard as your main logic is invalid.... |
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:44:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Sadly the part in the OP about most people thinking the AR should kill anything is true I made an alt to play with tanks and the amount of people who will stand shooting at a HAV with an AR is simply incredible, even got hatemail from one guy because he put 3 clips into my HAV and didn't even take out my shields so I was obviously glitching and he was reporting me.
I will if they have no health. A few time's I have taken out LAV or Tank with AR  |
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:53:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:XeroTheBigBoss wrote:Medic 1879 wrote:Sadly the part in the OP about most people thinking the AR should kill anything is true I made an alt to play with tanks and the amount of people who will stand shooting at a HAV with an AR is simply incredible, even got hatemail from one guy because he put 3 clips into my HAV and didn't even take out my shields so I was obviously glitching and he was reporting me. I will if they have no health. A few time's I have taken out LAV or Tank with AR Fair enough if I see a badly damaged tank I put some MD rounds into it but spotting an undamaged HAV and deciding to sprint out of cover to engage it with an assault rifle makes me lol everytime. Also had a guy jump ontop of my tank with a shotgun and just sit there constantly shooting down onto my turret, was pretty amusing sadly my top gunner still didn't manage to get a kill and eventually the guy got bored/ran out of bullets and wandered off I was so impressed with his dedication I let him live. Edited for dodgy spelling.
Lol nice
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