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Skywalker83 GamersForChrist 17	Posted - 2013.05.26 08:00:00 - [1] - Quote the reason I ask is because if they do I may skill into the proto av grenades when I get my respec. I have the advanced av grenades now and it takes two grenades to kill the basic lav's when they are at full health. If it still takes two grenades then I will just stay with the exo av grenades. And again I am talking about the basic free lav's. I have been enjoying getting back at all of these new mad max drivers that showed up this build with what I have now but I think upgrading my skills to proto will be worth it if they one hit kill these guys.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1242	Posted - 2013.05.26 08:49:00 - [2] - Quote still two hits on the free ones, but it lowers it to two hits on the tanked ones
Orenji Jiji Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 77	Posted - 2013.05.26 08:58:00 - [3] - Quote One Lai Dai Packed is not enough in my experience, especially for the shielded ones. Even if they drive on top of it (should do extra dmg from the bottom, no?). Also shield maxed Charybdis eats three Packed Lai Dais and runs away with half shields left. Not sure about rezs, but it was frakking hilarious -- AV nades are only good against militia armor tanks now. Thanks CCP! I get it -- shields are strong against explosives, but I can not put a forge gun on my scout and Plasma Cannon is even more laughable than nades! People are laughing now that shield LAV > armor HAV. I haven't skilled into proxies yet, because of this silly business with nades.
Skywalker83 GamersForChrist 18	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:20:00 - [4] - Quote thanks for the replies. +1 to the both of you. This is what I wanted to know. I guess I will stick with the advance av grenades then.At around 20,000 isk you would think that the proto grenades would kill a free jeep that requires no skill points though. I am not against it taking a couple for the proto jeeps and better tanks but it does not seem fair to allow the free stuff to be overpowered compared to proto gear. I use a bpo assault rifle a lot of the time and get a lot of kills against proto gear but I think that has to do with the skill of the user. Now I don't think I am super ringer material but just making a point. The free jeep does not require that much skill, you just hit the gas a run into someone. Presto one hit kill. and even though there loud sometimes they will run over me from behind and they don't even show up on the radar until I am roadkill. I could raise my skills to see them but again I am using my skill points to avoid death from a vehicle that does not require any skill points at all to be effective.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 55	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:24:00 - [5] - Quote Advanced packed nades used to one **** militia LAVs, do they not anymore? I've been using the hacked EXO since Uprising because lol no SP requirement and I bought 1 thousand of em. I see no reason why an advanced packed nade wouldn't still blow up a militia LAV.
Full Metal Kitten Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 572	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:26:00 - [6] - Quote If you are only attempting to defend yourself from clown cars, you don't need advanced grenades. It takes two Packed AV grenades to kill a free LAV. It takes two advanced, and two proto also. Advanced and proto AV grenades are better versus tanks, and do higher splash damage to kill infantry caught in the blast radius.
Full Metal Kitten Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 572	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:28:00 - [7] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Advanced packed nades used to one shot militia LAVs, do they not anymore? No, they don't. In fact, standard packed AV do more damage than advanced EX-0. The compromise is EX-0 can be thrown farther.
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 257	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:30:00 - [8] - Quote Skywalker83 wrote: the reason I ask is because if they do I may skill into the proto av grenades when I get my respec. I have the advanced av grenades now and it takes two grenades to kill the basic lav's when they are at full health. If it still takes two grenades then I will just stay with the exo av grenades. And again I am talking about the basic free lav's. I have been enjoying getting back at all of these new mad max drivers that showed up this build with what I have now but I think upgrading my skills to proto will be worth it if they one hit kill these guys. Package Lai Dai can destroy the free "armor LAVs" (Oikuma I think). "Shield LAVs" need 2 (I think). Of course we're talking about free LAV's without modules. Edited: Advance package (EX-11) needs 2 against shields LAVs, and 2 against armor LAVs, but when you take an armor LAV with one EX-11, you just need to shoot him a little because you almost get it.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1362	Posted - 2013.05.26 23:36:00 - [9] - Quote I'm so happy from what happened today. I threw a standard AV grenade at a logi LAV. The grenade actually managed to OHK the driver! I ended up hacking the LAV, too.
BOOOOOOM Headshot Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS. 4	Posted - 2013.05.27 00:04:00 - [10] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm so happy from what happened today. I threw a standard AV grenade at a logi LAV. The grenade actually managed to OHK the driver! I ended up hacking the LAV, too. i think that was me

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 1321	Posted - 2013.05.27 00:12:00 - [11] - Quote these LAVs are on steroids. You know it's a problem when you have to restock on Lai Dai packed AV grenades to destroy an LAV
Skywalker83 GamersForChrist 18	Posted - 2013.05.27 01:30:00 - [12] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: Skywalker83 wrote: the reason I ask is because if they do I may skill into the proto av grenades when I get my respec. I have the advanced av grenades now and it takes two grenades to kill the basic lav's when they are at full health. If it still takes two grenades then I will just stay with the exo av grenades. And again I am talking about the basic free lav's. I have been enjoying getting back at all of these new mad max drivers that showed up this build with what I have now but I think upgrading my skills to proto will be worth it if they one hit kill these guys. Package Lai Dai can destroy the free "armor LAVs" (Oikuma I think). "Shield LAVs" need 2 (I think). Of course we're talking about free LAV's without modules. Edited: Advance package (EX-11) needs 2 against shields LAVs, and 2 against armor LAVs, but when you take an armor LAV with one EX-11, you just need to shoot him a little because you almost get it. Ok so it may still be worth using the skill points for the proto if they are effective against tanks as well. I never skilled this high into grenades and hence the questions. If I see some extra skill points I may still go ahead and get some proto av. Thanks for the help guys.
Skywalker83 GamersForChrist 18	Posted - 2013.05.27 01:36:00 - [13] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: these LAVs are on steroids. You know it's a problem when you have to restock on Lai Dai packed AV grenades to destroy an LAV I have to agree. Maybe ccp will help balance this a little bit. I don't think they need to buff the grenades though because it would probably effect the balance with tanks and better jeeps. Maybe a small nerf to the basic lav to allow all proto level av grenades kill the lav. Just my opinion though. It seems other people agree to though I see a lot of nerf threads for the lav. I don't agree with all of them if I skilled heavy into the lav I would expect it to not be paper thin.


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