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Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 33	Posted - 2013.05.26 02:59:00 - [1] - Quote A sidearm similar to the non-lethal cough-ya right! have you seen what it does!?-unconvincing cough riot-control gun from Pandorum. Does not need to be attached to the arm, can look more like a traditional gun. Weapon attributes Possible Clip types/Size A battery with several rounds, at least three but less than ten. Rechargable battery. Has reduced clip size, increased (or decreased? since it has reduced clip size.) "reload time" (recharge time) and unlimited total ammo. Range Somewhere around the range of the Shotgun, or inbetween the Shotgun and SMG. Reticule A reticule similar to the one the Shotgun has, maybe smaller or larger. Spread Nonexistant: When fired the "round" starts small then expands to cover the entire reticule at maximum range((?) Should it be a bit before, or maybe after max range?), then disipates. The way I think of them implementing this on the technical level is: have it fire "pellets" similar to the Shotgun, but instead of a random spread, they cover the ENTIRE reticule (but each only does insanely small amounts of damage, PRO might get 1-3hp out of one "pellet", STD more like .1-.5hp per "pellet"). The "pellets" start out compressed into the "round", since the number of "pellets" fired stays the same, but they need to fill more space later (as the "round" expands), meaning that when the "round" is still small because it hasn't traveled far, there are more "pellets" in the same amount of space when compared to max range. Knockback Will probably not be implemented until they fix insta-kill LAVs and have things of that manner down The "pellets" also carry momentum that they transfer to the targets hit, giving them a knockback effect, making this a "good" area denial weapon. Doesn't matter how determined that heavy is to walk down that hall if you keep shoving him back each time he reaches the door. (and for those of you going "Thats OP! Theres no way to counter that!" Did you see he clip size and amount of damage per "pellet"? Just shoot him with your GUN, he wont be able to do much to stop you unless you're using a Shotgun or Nova Knives) Firing Types: Semi-Automatic Charge Weapon Purposes Area Denial: As stated above, it can be used to keep enemies from breaching rooms, buying teamates time to prepare/heal, or locking the room out entirely by using a firing line of people armed with this. (till an MD user showes up, one guy makes it past and kills everyone, or they decide to lob a bunch of grenades at you) Objecive Denial: At an objective the enemy is hacking, but don't have the time to kill the person hacking? (due to the players in full Proto covering him) Shoot them once and push them out of range, forcing them to start over. Setting up kills: Got an a squad of enemies behind cover? Keep them pinned down while one guy sneaks around back with this and pushes him out of cover. Then shoot them with your firing line. Breaching rooms: Laying siege to a room with a squad placed at strategic locations around the room? Send in someone with this, they'll get off as many shots as they can, doing a small amount of damage, but more importantly: hitting the defenders with knockback, pushing them out of position.
RedBleach LeSanglant Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 262	Posted - 2013.05.26 03:24:00 - [2] - Quote +1 love these kind of ideas
Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 34	Posted - 2013.05.26 03:31:00 - [3] - Quote Thanks. In regards to the name: Is it a good one? If you like the idea and decide to post, please include another potential name if you have one. It would be sort of sad if the Devs liked this enough to make it, but didn't because they couldn't come up with a good name for it. And @Devs reading this, would you do that, or would you put up a voting poll or something?
Timothy Reaper ZionTCD Unclaimed. 353	Posted - 2013.05.26 04:16:00 - [4] - Quote I like it! As for weapon's clip or whatever, how about a charging function similar to that in Minority Report? http://youtu.be/1SBPc9kDVVo?t=1m
Ulysses Knapse Bojo's School of the Trades 409	Posted - 2013.05.26 06:30:00 - [5] - Quote Force Gun, eh? Couldn't possibly be misread as Forge Gun.
Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.05.26 06:48:00 - [6] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Force Gun, eh? Couldn't possibly be misread as Forge Gun. You try coming up with a name then!
Dust HaHakoke Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2013.05.26 07:27:00 - [7] - Quote What about Knock Gun
Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.05.26 07:30:00 - [8] - Quote Is that a pun or reference? Cus if so, Idongetit.
Dust HaHakoke Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2013.05.26 07:32:00 - [9] - Quote Its more on what your weapon does it fires pellets that KNOCKback mercs
Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 39	Posted - 2013.05.26 08:17:00 - [10] - Quote Dust HaHakoke wrote: Its more on what your weapon does it fires pellets that KNOCKback mercs It doesn't fire pellets. It fires a single round, the "pellets" things was just the way I thought that they could implement it. It fires the "round" but the "round" isn't the actual projectile, it's just made to look like it is, because it is the projectile, just not on a technical level, because inside of the "round" are the "pellets" but they are invisible. So it is made to appear as though it shoots a single "round". This is the only scene from Pandorum I've been able to find that has Bower fire the gun I used for inspiration. Skip to 30s in if you don't feel like waiting through the rest of the video to see him shoot it. Found a second one WARNING: THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST SCENES AND CONTAINS SPOILERS! If you still wanna watch it it's here, go to 3:35 if you want to know why I laughed at it being called non-lethal. If you start there and end at 3:50 the movie won't get spoilt. I recommend you watch it if you can. You can get it on Netflix if it's avaliable where you live. It is rated R, if I recall correctly. When fired it makes the blue thing, the "round" because I think it would be harder to program this into a single projectile, I recommended that the "round not actually DO anything. Instead, inside of the "round" are the individual "pellets", they are invisible, and are there to do the damage and knockback, but to also make it look like the "round" is what is doing those things. Think of it this way: In a video game, when someone fires a gun, you see the "bullet trail" or something similar. Now think of the bullet and the "trail" as two seperate entities. This means that you can fire the bullet and kill your target without the"bullet trail". This also means that in say: Call of Duty, you could make it appear as though your P90 is firing missiles (or any other object for that matter), while it is still behaving like the missile is just a bullet, no explosions, no massive damage increase.

Dust HaHakoke Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 10	Posted - 2013.05.26 08:36:00 - [11] - Quote Hmm this could be a fun idea
Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.27 00:08:00 - [12] - Quote I saw another thread where they had non-lethal cough cough weapons. One of the people in there brough up how they should be equipment. Any thoughts on this being equipment rather than a sidearm? Possibly both but the equipment version suffers from drawbacks? And if someone with the info posts: Are we ever going to get weapons (of any kind) as equipment? (as in have the Devs have gone "I think we should have a kind of gun as an equipment!" other Devs: "Yaaa!") just curious.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 756	Posted - 2013.05.27 00:24:00 - [13] - Quote Much better than the other LTL weapon thread. I'd like the name to represent the weapon's race, like seismic driver for minmatar, concussive scrambler for Amarr, plasma interdiction generator for gallente or graviton swarm launcher for the last, and certainly least with the coming BS changes, the caldari.
Ecshon Autorez Nova Tech Marines Hephaestus Forge Alliance 40	Posted - 2013.05.27 00:30:00 - [14] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Much better than the other LTL weapon thread. I'd like the name to represent the weapon's race, like seismic driver for minmatar, concussive scrambler for Amarr, plasma interdiction generator for gallente or graviton swarm launcher for the last, and certainly least with the coming BS changes, the caldari. LTL thread? Haven't heard of that, link? Good job with the names by the way. I'm liking Cuncussive Scrambler and Seismic Driver.The others seem a bit long or too menacing for this gun. Plasma Interdicion Generator and Graviton Swarm Launcher make me think it's AV or a heavy weapon.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 362	Posted - 2013.05.27 01:49:00 - [15] - Quote I can dig it.


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