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Cy Clone1
Ill Omens
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:26:00 -
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An idea a friend came up with(mother Fracker). Doesnt need to be implimented anytime soon, but how about allowing respecs for players at anytime for an aur cost. |
Oss Tex
Planetary Response Organization
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:29:00 -
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Idea has been mentioned many times. I, for one, think it's a no-brainer...what's the harm? Make it $10 and it's plenty attainable but expensive enough to not be just thrown around frequently. |
DigiOps
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
273
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:29:00 -
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I'm in favor of it. |
Cy Clone1
Ill Omens
EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:34:00 -
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if its been mentioned before im sorry. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
97
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:35:00 -
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an SP respec with no Isk refund would keep the respecing to a minimum. It would also make the snail like skillprogression seem like you were getting somewhere. people would run out of Isk and have to go to battle and make more before they could use their SP up. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits
Unclaimed.
351
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:47:00 -
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Make it cost $30 |
Full Metal Kitten
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:01:00 -
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Oss Tex wrote:I, for one, think it's a no-brainer...what's the harm?
You guys can't just say "what's the harm?" as a reason to endorse the idea. Un intended consequences. You can't even think of one? |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
468
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:05:00 -
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Oss Tex wrote:Idea has been mentioned many times. I, for one, think it's a no-brainer...what's the harm? Make it $10 and it's plenty attainable but expensive enough to not be just thrown around frequently.
The harm being that any kid with mommy's credit card can respec into the FotM fit and roflstop the guy that decided not to be a wallet warrior. |
Sontie
Ill Omens
EoN.
413
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:05:00 -
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Don't you guys see what would happen once they make this happen?
Imagine the whining on the forums, the angry all caps, poor grammar letters to customer service, all complaining that this is a p2w mechanic, forcing people to spend money on a game that advertises itself as a AAA f2p game. With the constantly shifting balance, they will say, you HAVE to respec to be competitive, and therefore HAVE to pay to play.
Would they be wrong? |
Heathen Bastard
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
310
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:51:00 -
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Sontie wrote:Don't you guys see what would happen once they make this happen?
Imagine the whining on the forums, the angry all caps, poor grammar letters to customer service, all complaining that this is a p2w mechanic, forcing people to spend money on a game that advertises itself as a AAA f2p game. With the constantly shifting balance, they will say, you HAVE to respec to be competitive, and therefore HAVE to pay to play.
Would they be wrong?
on a technical level, yes, as you don't technically HAVE to pay, its just if you don't want to get stomped into the dust by all the people who would immediately switch to the most OP thing with every single patch.
It'll be more of a "pay to even be remotely competitive" game
TL;DR: On a technical level, still F2P. Realistically, it'll basically be a subscription game, and the subscription game I'm planning on playing is shaping up to be much, much better than dust is right now, and it's in beta. Also, this is technically longer than the original post, suckers! |
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Exmaple Core
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
374
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:09:00 -
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If your able to respec whenever you like there will be no value of any class because anyone can fulfill any role your teams need. Itd make the game borring if you can do what you want when you want |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1785
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:10:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Make it cost $30
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
102
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:13:00 -
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Nope. Make your bed and lie in it...and if you don't like the way you made your bed...take the time to remake it. :D |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:44:00 -
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Sontie wrote:Don't you guys see what would happen once they make this happen?
Imagine the whining on the forums, the angry all caps, poor grammar letters to customer service, all complaining that this is a p2w mechanic, forcing people to spend money on a game that advertises itself as a AAA f2p game. With the constantly shifting balance, they will say, you HAVE to respec to be competitive, and therefore HAVE to pay to play.
Would they be wrong?
Well, I think they would be. If people are willing to say that spending money on double boosters and getting 50% more SP (~73.44% with Omega Passive) is not "paying to win", then why would they say "being able to change your SP points is paying to win."?
People generally say "they can use the equipment faster and use more but they are not inherently better than you"; I would hazard that we would say the same thing for optional respec.
That being said, I do not like the idea of an AUR respec option. For the insidious company, it favors them greatly changing the game constantly not for balance but to wrestle the dollars from those that are suddenly in an inferior position. From a game design perspective, I don't like the ideas of your choices being so impermanent for a game that sells itself as being persistent experience point based. |
Cy Clone1
Ill Omens
EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.05.26 05:08:00 -
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Mag offers the option to respec skill points after accumulating a certian amount of points, and it becomes increasingly more difficult each time. The aur concept was just to adhere to the buisness aspect that every company follows. I think that this would allow people to try new weapons or vehicles types, creating a more diverse battlefield. Just an idea though im not really pushing for it. |
DeeJay One
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 09:16:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:I think that this would allow people to try new weapons or vehicles types, creating a more diverse battlefield.
Not really, everybody would be running the weapon/tank/dropship for this expansion changing everything instantly when the next nerf/buff hammer hits. You can't balance for that.... |
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