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Dias Bailey
the Aurum Grinder and Company
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:50:00 -
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I know this weapon isn't out yet, but I figured I would put a request in during its development.
PLEASE do NOT make the dmg type for this weapon KIN/EXP like the barrage or hail ammo in eve. rather make it based on the dmg type of EMP ammo. Minnie weapons need some variety in dmg types.
furthermore, it you must use fusion/tech 2 ammo as a model for its dmg type, please consider making the variants of this weapon use different ammo types. |
Ulysses Knapse
Bojo's School of the Trades
408
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:05:00 -
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So basically, you want to have every faction better against shields than armor? If so, it's good to be Gallente! |
Dias Bailey
the Aurum Grinder and Company
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Posted - 2013.05.26 17:38:00 -
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no, i want minmatar to be well represented as what they are in eve... utilitarian. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.05.26 18:08:00 -
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More ammo types are coming...
I've been hoping to see frequency crystals for a long time now.... |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
28
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:05:00 -
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Considering the fact that Minmatars and Amarr are at war, Minmatar's weapon should affect shield/armor equally. In which case, it should be 80/80 dmg vs shield/armor, however i also feel that the mass driver should be the rifle equivalent of the Minmatars. |
XXfootnoteXX
DUST University Ivy League
320
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:42:00 -
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What ever damage type it is, I can't wait for it to come out. |
Kaathe
DUST University Ivy League
60
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:55:00 -
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cy6 wrote:Considering the fact that Minmatars and Amarr are at war, Minmatar's weapon should affect shield/armor equally. In which case, it should be 80/80 dmg vs shield/armor, however i also feel that the mass driver should be the rifle equivalent of the Minmatars.
Going off topic: Each weapons should have separate damage stats like stated above.
On topic: But rails and Blasters are already the even damage types in DUST (for now). It should be released as another kinetic damage type... At least until ammo types are brought into the game. So far there are no good medium range weapons that do kinetic damage. The Mass Driver is a different weapon all together....they are explosives that aren't as accurate as a bullet. |
cy6
Raging Pack of Homos
28
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:19:00 -
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Kaathe wrote:cy6 wrote:Considering the fact that Minmatars and Amarr are at war, Minmatar's weapon should affect shield/armor equally. In which case, it should be 80/80 dmg vs shield/armor, however i also feel that the mass driver should be the rifle equivalent of the Minmatars. Going off topic: Each weapons should have separate damage stats like stated above. On topic: But rails and Blasters are already the even damage types in DUST ( for now). It should be released as another kinetic damage type... At least until ammo types are brought into the game. So far there are no good medium range weapons that do kinetic damage. The Mass Driver is a different weapon all together....they are explosives that aren't as accurate as a bullet.
Not sure what kinetic dmg is. i say min rifle should be 80/80 bc scrambler/lazers are 150/50. also find it odd that blasters are gallente but w/e
edit: i see minmatars as the guerilla warfare type which leads me to assume they use cheap tech (launchers) |
Sete Clifton
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
187
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:25:00 -
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cy6 wrote:Kaathe wrote:cy6 wrote:Considering the fact that Minmatars and Amarr are at war, Minmatar's weapon should affect shield/armor equally. In which case, it should be 80/80 dmg vs shield/armor, however i also feel that the mass driver should be the rifle equivalent of the Minmatars. Going off topic: Each weapons should have separate damage stats like stated above. On topic: But rails and Blasters are already the even damage types in DUST ( for now). It should be released as another kinetic damage type... At least until ammo types are brought into the game. So far there are no good medium range weapons that do kinetic damage. The Mass Driver is a different weapon all together....they are explosives that aren't as accurate as a bullet. Not sure what kinetic dmg is. i say min rifle should be 80/80 bc scrambler/lazers are 150/50. also find it odd that blasters are gallente but w/e edit: i see minmatars as the guerilla warfare type which leads me to assume they use cheap tech (launchers)
Aren't lasers (at least scrambler rifles) 120/80?
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Kaathe
DUST University Ivy League
60
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:26:00 -
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cy6 wrote:Kaathe wrote:cy6 wrote:Considering the fact that Minmatars and Amarr are at war, Minmatar's weapon should affect shield/armor equally. In which case, it should be 80/80 dmg vs shield/armor, however i also feel that the mass driver should be the rifle equivalent of the Minmatars. Going off topic: Each weapons should have separate damage stats like stated above. On topic: But rails and Blasters are already the even damage types in DUST ( for now). It should be released as another kinetic damage type... At least until ammo types are brought into the game. So far there are no good medium range weapons that do kinetic damage. The Mass Driver is a different weapon all together....they are explosives that aren't as accurate as a bullet. Not sure what kinetic dmg is. i say min rifle should be 80/80 bc scrambler/lazers are 150/50. also find it odd that blasters are gallente but w/e edit: i see minmatars as the guerilla warfare type which leads me to assume they use cheap tech (launchers)
Minmatars are not necessarily cheap...but they are diverse. 80/80 is hybrid damage output. Kinetic damage output would be 50/150. Such as the Minmatar Submachine Gun. |
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V 23
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:46:00 -
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How do you find out what race makes what gun? |
Kaathe
DUST University Ivy League
60
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Posted - 2013.05.27 02:14:00 -
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V 23 wrote:How do you find out what race makes what gun?
It's an inherit EVE knowledge thing. Sometimes reading the flavor text on each weapon helps.
CCP doesn't really tell you which race makes which weapon...which should be addressed.
For someone with no understanding of the EVE universe it's actually hard to find out unless you lurk on the forums. |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
136
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:46:00 -
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V 23 wrote:How do you find out what race makes what gun? Read the names of the Proto version of that item. 1) boundless, Freedom and Six-Kin= Minmatar 2) Kaalakiota, Ishukone, Lai-Dai and Wyrkyomi = Caldari 3) Duvolle, Allotek and Creodron = Gallente 4) Imperial, Viziam and Carthum = Amarr |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
599
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Posted - 2013.05.27 11:35:00 -
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First off the damage ratios are as follows
Shields/armor Hybrid 110/90 Explosive 80/120 Laser based 120/80 Kinetic ???
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Kaathe
DUST University Ivy League
63
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:42:00 -
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Kinetic would be the same ratio as explosives. Again, the submachine guns do kinetic damage. If there is a difference it wouldn't be too far off. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
18
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:01:00 -
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minmintar weapons should do maybe 95-97% damage to shields and more to armor. it sorta defeats the point to having shields if every weapon does more damage to sheilds than to armor. since minmintar and galente are in aliance the galente created the flux grenade which the minmintars use to great effect.
in fact if you use minmintar weapons you should always carry flux nades with you. i do as a heavy and its great. plus the minmintars greater speed balances the low initial damage to to the enemy because of their shields. their shields give them a chance to retaliate |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
18
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:02:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:V 23 wrote:How do you find out what race makes what gun? Read the names of the Proto version of that item. 1) boundless, Freedom and Six-Kin, core, howlcage = Minmatar 2) Kaalakiota, Ishukone, Lai-Dai and Wyrkyomi = Caldari 3) Duvolle, Allotek and Creodron = Gallente 4) Imperial, Viziam and Carthum = Amarr
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
225
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:13:00 -
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Kaathe wrote:
Minmatars are not necessarily cheap...but they are diverse. 80/80 is hybrid damage output. Kinetic damage output would be 50/150. Such as the Minmatar Submachine Gun.
This reminded me of the pic of the Modular SMG--AR Variant we saw, that'd be a welcome addition. I also think that the damage output would be appropriate to be the same (50/150) |
Kaathe
DUST University Ivy League
63
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:20:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Kaathe wrote:
Minmatars are not necessarily cheap...but they are diverse. 80/80 is hybrid damage output. Kinetic damage output would be 50/150. Such as the Minmatar Submachine Gun.
This reminded me of the pic of the Modular SMG--AR Variant we saw, that'd be a welcome addition. I also think that the damage output would be appropriate to be the same (50/150)
I was using the 50/150 as an example. If that were the actual stats I would beg them to change it. 50% of the weapons damage hitting 400+ shield...who would use this weapon.
If anything make it the same as explosives. 80/120 |
BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homos
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:25:00 -
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Kaathe wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Kaathe wrote:
Minmatars are not necessarily cheap...but they are diverse. 80/80 is hybrid damage output. Kinetic damage output would be 50/150. Such as the Minmatar Submachine Gun.
This reminded me of the pic of the Modular SMG--AR Variant we saw, that'd be a welcome addition. I also think that the damage output would be appropriate to be the same (50/150) I was using the 50/150 as an example. If that were the actual stats I would beg them to change it. 50% of the weapons damage hitting 400+ shield...who would use this weapon. If anything make it the same as explosives. 80/120
it would require using flux grenades. i could see many more flux users vs av users |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
225
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:26:00 -
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Kaathe wrote:
who would use this weapon.
An opportunistic ninja who knew to hold their fire until the reddot was in armor......
then raping their face with it.
Not everyone is intended for direct confrontation, using cover and picking your moment can help a bunch. |
Kaathe
DUST University Ivy League
63
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:31:00 -
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You're completely chopping up my words there. But yeah...sure...thanks for the info. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
225
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:41:00 -
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edited my previous post so that I am not "chopping up your words" |
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