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Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:50:00 -
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While it comes to no surprise to anyone that keyboard and mouse users would need to cheat in an attempt to try and be competitive with the vastly supreme controller for FPS games.
The real question is when is CCP going to do something to punish them? Right now most K+M users are using programmable mouses with rapid fire on weapons such as the Tactical Assault Rifle to fire of 10 rounds in 1 second.
My suggestion for the inferior K+M users is to grab a controller and understand why it is superior to your archaic K+M and please, for the sake of your own dignity; stop cheating. It only makes you look more pathetic than you already are dragging the K+M around pretending to be relevant in FPS games. |
Iskandar Zul Karnain
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:52:00 -
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1/10 |
Cain Han
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:53:00 -
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You do realize that people not using a kb/m can use modded controllers and accomplish all of that as well right?
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XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:54:00 -
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-1/10 |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:55:00 -
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Cain Han wrote:You do realize that people not using a kb/m can use modded controllers and accomplish all of that as well right?
The entry barrier to that is vastly, vastly higher and you know it. |
Schalac 17
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.25 19:57:00 -
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Reported your post for trolling. |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:03:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Reported your post for trolling. Because I say it like it is without sugar coating it? So we have to put on kid gloves or the K+M users will have their feeling hurt with the truth? Or are you upset because I'm calling out the rapid fire mouse users? |
Argo Filch
BetaMax. CRONOS.
28
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:05:00 -
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Wanted to link one of them "don't know if trolling or..." images... but in the end that might be a bannable offense so i won't bother... but you can google image search them yourself... |
Drud Green
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:06:00 -
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Yeah op right on! It's as bad as using a wheel to cheat at gran turismo and nearly as bad as all the cheaters with a bigger tv than me. I also despise those cheaters who rely on surround sound to cheat. Dastardly cheaters |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:24:00 -
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Its pretty easy to shoot fast with any mouse, you dont need a modded mouse. |
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Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:25:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Its pretty easy to shoot fast with any mouse, you dont need a modded mouse. 10 rounds from the TAR in under 1 second? Yeah I don't think so. |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:28:00 -
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Cain Han wrote:You do realize that people not using a kb/m can use modded controllers and accomplish all of that as well right?
We COULD but we don't |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:35:00 -
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Drud Green wrote:Yeah op right on! It's as bad as using a wheel to cheat at gran turismo and nearly as bad as all the cheaters with a bigger tv than me. I also despise those cheaters who rely on surround sound to cheat. Dastardly cheaters
You forgot about those that have faster Internet connections and even those cheaters that installed SSD. |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:44:00 -
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What is sad is CCP might nerf weapons that are balanced in non-cheating hands due to the K+M users. |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
60
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:49:00 -
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Cheaters, cheaters everywhere!
I personally choose to cheat by sneaking up behind people and shooting them in the back, b/c I'm an ass like that.
How do YOU choose to cheat? |
Succendo
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:52:00 -
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You wanna go? I'll have you know I was an intern for John Cena. I know my stuff. Mano a mano; you against me. It'll nominally be a fair fight; I say nominally because I'm obviously way stronger and more powerful than you could ever be. Feel my biceps. You know what that is? It's your comeuppance. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
113
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:57:00 -
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Expensive gaming mice provide the same advantages as expensive/modded controllers.
News at 11. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
889
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:59:00 -
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clearly if someone is beating you they must have an unfair advantage, thusly they are cheating.
You poor, tormented and abused soul, you. |
Khamelaya
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
13
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:02:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Its pretty easy to shoot fast with any mouse, you dont need a modded mouse. 10 rounds from the TAR in under 1 second? Yeah I don't think so.
TAC has a rate of fire of 789.5 shots per minute or about 13 shots per second. If CCP wanted it to shoot slower, then they would lower the rate of fire. Certainly not cheating to use the weapon within its stated limits. Also it kicks like a *****, it is practically useless to fire it that fast at anything but point blank range.
Also
Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:vastly supreme controller for FPS games
Ahahahahhahhahhahahahhahhhahhahhahaha!!!
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Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:10:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:clearly if someone is beating you they must have an unfair advantage, thusly they are cheating.
You poor, tormented and abused soul, you. When eight different people reply to you asking the question, "How are you shooting the TAR so fast?" with the answer "Rapid fire mouse button" it leaves things pretty cut and dry.
Do try and keep up son. |
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Soldier of Mawat
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
67
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:21:00 -
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With only my finger I can probably achieve a fire rate of about 500-600 RPM, that being a rough estimate. Should my finger be nerfed too? |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
310
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:40:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:clearly if someone is beating you they must have an unfair advantage, thusly they are cheating.
You poor, tormented and abused soul, you. When eight different people reply to you asking the question, "How are you shooting the TAR so fast?" with the answer "Rapid fire mouse button" it leaves things pretty cut and dry. Do try and keep up son.
Sorry to break it to you man but the ones using Rapid Fire & Turbo modes are controller users, my programmable 14 button mouse does not work on the PS3 and for the record you cannot and i stress this, you CANNOT bind a macro to your fire button even if my mouse actually worked.
PC mice actually need software to run their macros, even my Razor, controllers on the other hand are native to the PS3.
Besides i use the Scrambler Rifle.
PS: Scrubs like you if i encounter them on PC games in any FPS fill my Tear tanks with Hackusations at around 4 per hour. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
891
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:40:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:clearly if someone is beating you they must have an unfair advantage, thusly they are cheating.
You poor, tormented and abused soul, you. When eight different people reply to you asking the question, "How are you shooting the TAR so fast?" with the answer "Rapid fire mouse button" it leaves things pretty cut and dry. Do try and keep up son.
Post on your main or be dismissed.
And until CCP declares it an exploit, it's not cheating.
No I don't use a TAC. I dont care enough to. |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet
106
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:44:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote: When eight different people reply to you asking the question, "How are you shooting the TAR so fast?" with the answer "Rapid fire mouse button" it leaves things pretty cut and dry.
Do try and keep up son.
You know what, you're right. Keyboard & Mouse are cheating, and that one guy totally proves it. I for one find that DS3 are the superior way to combat people, who needs some cheating overpriced piece of crap? |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
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Posted - 2013.05.25 21:45:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:And until CCP declares it an exploit, it's not cheating. Goonswarm defending cheating nonshocker. |
Mr PurpSicle
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:17:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:And until CCP declares it an exploit, it's not cheating. Goonswarm defending cheating nonshocker.
haha goonswarm hate funny..... OP's thread topic stupid |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:32:00 -
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it's funny how everything that gives someone an edge is automatically "cheating"
It's an interesting phrase which loosely translates to "Behavior which violates established rules."
if there is no rule against it then it cannot, in fact, be labelled as cheating.
On this forum more than any other i find a lot of tryhards who seem to believe they are so very skilled that if someone beats them it means that person was obviously cheating.
You got your ass kicked. deal with it. |
Succendo
Goonfeet
29
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:36:00 -
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I've trained many a year to annihilate scrublords like you. Come at me. I'll show you the true meaning of power. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:36:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:it's funny how everything that gives someone an edge is automatically "cheating"
It's an interesting phrase which loosely translates to "Behavior which violates established rules."
if there is no rule against it then it cannot, in fact, be labelled as cheating.
On this forum more than any other i find a lot of tryhards who seem to believe they are so very skilled that if someone beats them it means that person was obviously cheating.
You got your ass kicked. deal with it.
None of which negates the concept that some folks may be using mechanical assistance outside of the expected game mechanics to gain an edge.
It should be pretty easy for CCP to track it if they care to. |
Eltra Ardell
Goonfeet
113
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:37:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:And until CCP declares it an exploit, it's not cheating. Goonswarm defending cheating nonshocker. Goonfeet member here. Confirming we all run Tac ARs with modded controllers and mice payed for with RMT'd ISK from developer handouts to Goonswarm. We blackmailed CCP and made it legal, too, so good luck getting it banned. Next hotfix we'll have bumblebee-colored dropsuits, with a bonus 400 to shield and armor each. Also, we are every awoxing squad and spend our time in the game solely to ruin it for you and your friends.
Join today and you too can be a part of the fun. We require a 500m ISK deposit, but offer full reimbursement for everything you run. You just need to play for the Amarr in Faction Warfare. We don't reimburse public games.
Send me a mail in-game for details. |
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Succendo
Goonfeet
29
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:49:00 -
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Goons run Dust 514 IRL. |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet
106
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:00:00 -
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Eltra Ardell wrote: You just need to play for the Amarr in Faction Warfare. We don't reimburse public games.
This is true. We wave our Confederate flags and chew our tabacky while driving our pickup trucks across the fields.
Succendo wrote:Goons run Dust 514 IRL.
Goons are CCP. Go ask Riverini, he'll agree. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
171
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:03:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:it's funny how everything that gives someone an edge is automatically "cheating"
It's an interesting phrase which loosely translates to "Behavior which violates established rules."
if there is no rule against it then it cannot, in fact, be labelled as cheating.
On this forum more than any other i find a lot of tryhards who seem to believe they are so very skilled that if someone beats them it means that person was obviously cheating.
You got your ass kicked. deal with it. Sony has declared it an exploit. Modifying ANY of sony's hardware or software is considered an exploit. |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet
106
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:10:00 -
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http://imgur.com/8kBvubj |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
9
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:13:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:it's funny how everything that gives someone an edge is automatically "cheating"
It's an interesting phrase which loosely translates to "Behavior which violates established rules."
if there is no rule against it then it cannot, in fact, be labelled as cheating.
On this forum more than any other i find a lot of tryhards who seem to believe they are so very skilled that if someone beats them it means that person was obviously cheating.
You got your ass kicked. deal with it. Sony has declared it an exploit. Modifying ANY of sony's hardware or software is considered an exploit. ^^ This. |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
895
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:15:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:it's funny how everything that gives someone an edge is automatically "cheating"
It's an interesting phrase which loosely translates to "Behavior which violates established rules."
if there is no rule against it then it cannot, in fact, be labelled as cheating.
On this forum more than any other i find a lot of tryhards who seem to believe they are so very skilled that if someone beats them it means that person was obviously cheating.
You got your ass kicked. deal with it. Sony has declared it an exploit. Modifying ANY of sony's hardware or software is considered an exploit.
This is weak reasoning, given Sony doesn't have jurisdiction over personal property purchased in any country ever. Nevermind they cannot go in and tell you that you have to give up your PS3 equipment for inspection or confiscation.
So this is a weak argument, because one cannot PROVE who is using a modified anything. And bluntly there is no legal way for Sony or CCP to demand an inspection (or confiscation) of your hardware. Thus the only thing your shrieking accomplishes is getting legitimate users of the tech nerfed so that the cheapasses who physically mod their gear are brought back to normal competitive levels.
No one wins. |
Dr Poopypants
Dropsuit Repository
1
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:20:00 -
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I'm one of those guys that uses the glu-5 (duvolles are slightly better for 300% the price).
It is the lowest available variant of it's kind. As a logibro, I get one light weapon slot. I need it to be workable in close quarter, short and mid range with a little reach. The scope adds field awareness and saves ammo. When used in short bursts, the rifle is quiet enough to not give away my position.
I don't use turbo mod's , but I do use ds3 and a mouse.
It is possible to use modded controllers and modded mice simultaneously.
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I agree with much of your sentiment in the original post, so in closing.
Let's focus less on keyboard/mouse, ds3,ds3/m,move,move/keyboard/m variants. We can work to prohibit turbo mods if possible.
A suggestion was to reduce rate of fire. My suggestion would be to increase kick after 3 shots exponentially. Similar to heat up, but with kick instead.
A rifle kick gauge. Just like heat up, but it doesn't seize, it just has a higher miss chance as the bar fills |
Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
895
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:21:00 -
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also: modded controllers on the TAC AR are not unique to KB/M. they are two paths to the same place.
Drop the TAR rate of fire to a point where recoil will prevent more than two perfectly max-rate shots from hitting. problem solved.
Now pull the trigger manually you scrubs. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
172
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Posted - 2013.05.25 23:32:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:it's funny how everything that gives someone an edge is automatically "cheating"
It's an interesting phrase which loosely translates to "Behavior which violates established rules."
if there is no rule against it then it cannot, in fact, be labelled as cheating.
On this forum more than any other i find a lot of tryhards who seem to believe they are so very skilled that if someone beats them it means that person was obviously cheating.
You got your ass kicked. deal with it. Sony has declared it an exploit. Modifying ANY of sony's hardware or software is considered an exploit. This is weak reasoning, given Sony doesn't have jurisdiction over personal property purchased in any country ever. Nevermind they cannot go in and tell you that you have to give up your PS3 equipment for inspection or confiscation. So this is a weak argument, because one cannot PROVE who is using a modified anything. And bluntly there is no legal way for Sony or CCP to demand an inspection (or confiscation) of your hardware. Thus the only thing your shrieking accomplishes is getting legitimate users of the tech nerfed so that the cheapasses who physically mod their gear are brought back to normal competitive levels. No one wins. You might wanna read up on graf chokolo and geohotz ps3.
That will show you what sony can do to you for modding their console kthxbye.
Also it's not hard to detect an inhuman RoF. |
DJINN serious issues
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
28
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:15:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:While it comes to no surprise to anyone that keyboard and mouse users would need to cheat in an attempt to try and be competitive with the vastly supreme controller for FPS games.
The real question is when is CCP going to do something to punish them? Right now most K+M users are using programmable mouses with rapid fire on weapons such as the Tactical Assault Rifle to fire of 10 rounds in 1 second.
My suggestion for the inferior K+M users is to grab a controller and understand why it is superior to your archaic K+M and please, for the sake of your own dignity; stop cheating. It only makes you look more pathetic than you already are dragging the K+M around pretending to be relevant in FPS games.
It is highly unlikely that anyone you have encountered is using kbm currently. The kbm is FUBAR and I think 99% of us have moved on. |
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Eddy Lightgrace
Codex Troopers
3
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:16:00 -
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ahh... juz gave me an idea,,, mebe I should borrow 1 macro mouse juz to try it on Kalaakoita Tac Sniper..
p/s: not that I need it anyway... Thales 1 shot almost everything that's running. |
Kane Fyea
BetaMax. CRONOS.
175
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Posted - 2013.05.26 00:21:00 -
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Eddy Lightgrace wrote:ahh... juz gave me an idea,,, mebe I should borrow 1 macro mouse juz to try it on Kalaakoita Tac Sniper..
p/s: not that I need it anyway... Thales 1 shot almost everything that's running. I have two programmable mouses and neither of them work on my ps3. |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:33:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote: You might wanna read up on graf chokolo and geohotz ps3.
That will show you what sony can do to you for modding their console kthxbye.
Also it's not hard to detect an inhuman RoF.
If you believe that hacking the firmware of a console and distributing the root keys is equivalent to a modded controller then that's fairly hilarious. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
95
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:44:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:Cheaters, cheaters everywhere!
I personally choose to cheat by sneaking up behind people and shooting them in the back, b/c I'm an ass like that.
How do YOU choose to cheat?
I use boosters AND sniper rifles. I also run with a squad when I'm able. We cheat together by communicating. |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
12
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Posted - 2013.05.26 01:51:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:Cass Barr wrote:Cheaters, cheaters everywhere!
I personally choose to cheat by sneaking up behind people and shooting them in the back, b/c I'm an ass like that.
How do YOU choose to cheat? I use boosters AND sniper rifles. I also run with a squad when I'm able. We cheat together by communicating. Stop trying to dilute and down play what is going on. |
Abu Stij
Goonfeet
108
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:07:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:Stop trying to dilute and down play what is going on.
YEAH! I got your back Velico, long have the days gone by that I have had my Dust game ruined because of cheating scrubs that blatantly need to illegally get the upper hand on us supreme FPS players.
I can't stand by and watch this horrible act go on any longer. I'm going to go tell The Mittani himself he needs to fix this. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
95
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:13:00 -
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Sorry? Not really, here's why: CCP is aware of modded controllers and adjustable mice and are already looking into it. I'd post a link but I'm on a phone and it's too much trouble atm... Just to show I'm not a complete ***... I don't use either a kb/m with or without an adjustable mouse or modded controller. I can't wait to see all those who do use that stuff play with those of us who have put in the time to learn and adjust to the game as is... I'll still be terrible but at least I won't be butthurt. |
Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
13
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:19:00 -
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OP is talking out his ***. Any PC using player who's into shooting games that's worth anything has a fast finger. Besides the point, why would you cry about the kb+m users.. the real enemy is modded gamepads.
There are no real modded kb+m for RoF increase, so your post is done.
Good day sir. |
Thousandth Son
Grief University
6
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Posted - 2013.05.26 04:31:00 -
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Just ban anything other than PlayStation Move. Problem solved. |
Velico Orion Necrosis
Team PLASMA
13
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Posted - 2013.05.26 07:55:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:There are no real modded kb+m for RoF increase, so your post is done. Ahahahahahaa, oh my sides. Wait, your serious? Ahahahahaaa
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1242
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:51:00 -
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Velico Orion Necrosis wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Its pretty easy to shoot fast with any mouse, you dont need a modded mouse. 10 rounds from the TAR in under 1 second? Yeah I don't think so. you would need a modded mouse....
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1242
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:52:00 -
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also http://www.blendhelp.com/g/clickgame.html |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
504
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Posted - 2013.05.26 13:53:00 -
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Ok, guys, let's stop it right there.
We encourage discussion in a spirited and positive atmosphere, and this thread is anything but that.
Locked. |
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