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karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:30:00 -
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there should be a skill tier not sp tier it should be a kdr tier setup so the ppl with high kdr can only play against high kdr ppl .99-.00 1.00-1.99 2.00-2.99 ect. so that ppl who suck such as me wont have to play against high kdr ppl but if you are in a squad you are in the tier of the highest kdr in the sqaud so you can move up in kdr tiers but never down plz respond and tell me what you think DEVS plz and ty |
Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:32:00 -
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Your idea has good intentions, but KDR is a horrible stat to base this on. What about logis and snipers? |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:35:00 -
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and tell me what you think about using this in corp battles so low skilled corps cant be continually attacked in PC just for free / easy **** just to get more areas because ppl can say will they need to get better but what about ppl that like the game but arnt top skills and probly wont ever be and still they get mad because of continualy being raped by top kdr players plz DEVS respond and let me hear your points both for and against this idea ty very much |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:36:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Your idea has good intentions, but KDR is a horrible stat to base this on. What about logis and snipers? like i said you can still squad up with your friends and play with them but you will be in their tier of kdr |
GLiMPSE X
Gigolos of the Interwebz
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:46:00 -
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karonzon wrote:and tell me what you think about using this in corp battles so low skilled corps cant be continually attacked in PC just for free / easy **** just to get more areas because ppl can say will they need to get better but what about ppl that like the game but arnt top skills and probly wont ever be and still they get mad because of continualy being raped by top kdr players plz DEVS respond and let me hear your points both for and against this idea ty very much
No. If you're not strong enough to hold your land in PC against better players the DEV's shouldn't hand it to you.
We don't want the "Best Athletes" of the Special Olympics pounding their chests about how they hold a district. |
Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:48:00 -
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karonzon wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Your idea has good intentions, but KDR is a horrible stat to base this on. What about logis and snipers? like i said you can still squad up with your friends and play with them but you will be in their tier of kdr and as for snipers they will be in their kdr tier battles which would be the 3.00+ tier which i see no problem in I think lifetime WP, WP per minute, (when we get that stat) W/L, lifetime kills, or a combination of all would probably work out better in the long run. How many times you kill someone vs how many times you die is a pretty silly stat to base rank off of and inspires unneeded elitism, boosting, and usage of gaming exploits. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:50:00 -
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karonzon wrote:there should be a skill tier not sp tier it should be a kdr tier setup so the ppl with high kdr can only play against high kdr ppl .99-.00 1.00-1.99 2.00-2.99 3.00+ so that ppl who suck such as me wont have to play against high kdr ppl but if you are in a squad you are in the tier of the highest kdr in the sqaud so you can move up in kdr tiers but never down plz respond and tell me what you think DEVS plz and ty
You seem to forget that if you put high KDR players together, they will (assuming they wanna play, because most drop a game if they see good players opposite side) start dropping in KDR because they are more equal skill and soon you will be playing with people that kill you really fast with sub 3.0 KDR because they all dropped. |
Mad Mav
Brotherhood of the Commissioned
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:54:00 -
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Problem with this is that KDR and WP has been broken for those that play Skirmish almost exclusively. |
Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:57:00 -
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Mad Mav wrote:Problem with this is that KDR and WP has been broken for those that play Skirmish almost exclusively. This is why leader boards should have been reset in Uprising. |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:00:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:karonzon wrote:there should be a skill tier not sp tier it should be a kdr tier setup so the ppl with high kdr can only play against high kdr ppl .99-.00 1.00-1.99 2.00-2.99 3.00+ so that ppl who suck such as me wont have to play against high kdr ppl but if you are in a squad you are in the tier of the highest kdr in the sqaud so you can move up in kdr tiers but never down plz respond and tell me what you think DEVS plz and ty You seem to forget that if you put high KDR players together, they will (assuming they wanna play, because most drop a game if they see good players opposite side) start dropping in KDR because they are more equal skill and soon you will be playing with people that kill you really fast with sub 3.0 KDR because they all dropped. plz reread what i typed i said you can move up but never down* |
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karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:05:00 -
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ok here let me say this if your kdr is like 2.92<< and you fight ppl of your own skill and your kdr drops to 1.12 you will still be in the 2.00-2.99 tier if your kdr is .80 and you party with a friend whos kdr is 3.00+ you play with him in his kdr tier while in a party with him when you are no longer in the squad you will play in your own tier hense the your best is where you stay untill you get better and move up always up nvr down |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:09:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:karonzon wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Your idea has good intentions, but KDR is a horrible stat to base this on. What about logis and snipers? like i said you can still squad up with your friends and play with them but you will be in their tier of kdr and as for snipers they will be in their kdr tier battles which would be the 3.00+ tier which i see no problem in I think lifetime WP, WP per minute, (when we get that stat) W/L, lifetime kills, or a combination of all would probably work out better in the long run. How many times you kill someone vs how many times you die is a pretty silly stat to base rank off of and inspires unneeded elitism, boosting, and usage of gaming exploits. then thoughs ppl that exploit the game will have to use real skill because the ppl they are playing will force them to because they have the skill why dont ppl see this |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
100
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:50:00 -
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karonzon wrote:there should be a skill tier not sp tier it should be a kdr tier setup so the ppl with high kdr can only play against high kdr ppl .99-.00 1.00-1.99 2.00-2.99 3.00+ so that ppl who suck such as me wont have to play against high kdr ppl but if you are in a squad you are in the tier of the highest kdr in the sqaud so you can move up in kdr tiers but never down plz respond and tell me what you think DEVS plz and ty
The ONLY reason many of these players have a high KDR is because they have been playing since closed beta or the very beginning of open beta; encountering nothing but equal or lesser resistance in matches. i.e. they have never been victims of protostomping. They never had to face opponents equipped with proto suits, stacked proto modules and weapons having lvl 5 shield and armor upgrades, weapon proficiency, and accuracy, while playing in MLT or standard gear with virtually no core skills themselves.
As I progress further and further in this game, fleshing out my character, it becomes much easier taking these scrubs out while wearing only MLT suit using a Standard HMG. Kitten help them when I finally get my proto suit! |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:46:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:karonzon wrote:there should be a skill tier not sp tier it should be a kdr tier setup so the ppl with high kdr can only play against high kdr ppl .99-.00 1.00-1.99 2.00-2.99 3.00+ so that ppl who suck such as me wont have to play against high kdr ppl but if you are in a squad you are in the tier of the highest kdr in the sqaud so you can move up in kdr tiers but never down plz respond and tell me what you think DEVS plz and ty The ONLY reason many of these players have a high KDR is because they have been playing since closed beta or the very beginning of open beta; encountering nothing but equal or lesser resistance in matches. i.e. they have never been victims of protostomping. They never had to face opponents equipped with proto suits, stacked proto modules and weapons having lvl 5 shield and armor upgrades, weapon proficiency, and accuracy, while playing in MLT or standard gear with virtually no core skills themselves. As I progress further and further in this game, fleshing out my character, it becomes much easier taking these scrubs out while wearing only MLT suit using a Standard HMG. Kitten help them when I finally get my proto suit! but i dont feel ill ever be as good as them while having to play them all the time because it gets frusterating dieing all the time it makes me hate the game i love |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
101
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:51:00 -
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karonzon wrote:but i dont feel ill ever be as good as them while having to play them all the time because it gets frusterating dieing all the time it makes me hate the game i love
It does get easier, but it is a long grind. Stick with it, and eventually you will have your revenge on the protobears.
The way I look at it, when I get to where they are, I'll be at least twice as good, considering what I had to fight against to get there. |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:57:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:karonzon wrote:but i dont feel ill ever be as good as them while having to play them all the time because it gets frusterating dieing all the time it makes me hate the game i love It does get easier, but it is a long grind. Stick with it, and eventually you will have your revenge on the protobears. The way I look at it, when I get to where they are, I'll be at least twice as good, considering what I had to fight against to get there. ok i have like 8.8 mill that is why i dont think i will be as good as them so i dont think i should have to play them all the time that is why i feel there needs to be a kdr tier system |
karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 13:00:00 -
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karonzon wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:karonzon wrote:but i dont feel ill ever be as good as them while having to play them all the time because it gets frusterating dieing all the time it makes me hate the game i love It does get easier, but it is a long grind. Stick with it, and eventually you will have your revenge on the protobears. The way I look at it, when I get to where they are, I'll be at least twice as good, considering what I had to fight against to get there. ok i have like 8.8 mill that is why i dont think i will be as good as them so i dont think i should have to play them all the time that is why i feel there needs to be a kdr tier system and the kdr tier system shouldnt be started untill you reach a 50 kills or deaths have been reached |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
101
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Posted - 2013.05.25 13:07:00 -
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karonzon wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:karonzon wrote:but i dont feel ill ever be as good as them while having to play them all the time because it gets frusterating dieing all the time it makes me hate the game i love It does get easier, but it is a long grind. Stick with it, and eventually you will have your revenge on the protobears. The way I look at it, when I get to where they are, I'll be at least twice as good, considering what I had to fight against to get there. ok i have like 8.8 mill that is why i dont think i will be as good as them so i dont think i should have to play them all the time that is why i feel there needs to be a kdr tier system
I'm sorry to say this to you, but if you are not good, then you are not good, and there isn't a crutch that will ever be able to hold you up.
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karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 13:36:00 -
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dont need a crutch but i dont think the high kdr should get free kills |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY
117
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Posted - 2013.05.25 13:43:00 -
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A good way to separate battles would be by sum of meta levels in fittings. For example a total PRO fitting have a greater sum of meta level than a total STD fitting. Passive skills will always be an advantage but if you want to play a certain battle you have to use a cheaper fitting. |
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karonzon
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:04:00 -
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that doesnt do anything for ppl with less skill, not skill points. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire
101
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:35:00 -
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karonzon wrote:dont need a crutch but i dont think the high kdr should get free kills
Just because a player is more skilled than you doesn't mean they are getting "free kills". This isn't kindergarten. You are a big boy now. You shouldn't need anyone to hold your hand.
karonzon wrote:that doesnt do anything for ppl with less skill, not skill points.
If you have no skill there is nothing anyone can do for you. HTFU! |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:51:00 -
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Quickly someone suggest Elo rating system to be implemented!!
Oh wait.. |
0B4NONE
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.26 08:08:00 -
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i think there should be a kdr tierd system |
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