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Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.05.25 09:34:00 -
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Seriously if there ever was a time it was "Uprising".
They didn't do it though and it's pretty clear why at this point.
Just imagine where server numbers would be is AFKers were kicked or vulnerable for a TK? |
Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1375
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Posted - 2013.05.25 09:41:00 -
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They'll just find another way to break the game.
Red-Line Railgunning LAV Red-Line Repping Red-Line AFKing
Maybe they should just do away with Red-Lines entirely.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
374
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Posted - 2013.05.25 09:57:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:They'll just find another way to break the game.
Red-Line Railgunning LAV Red-Line Repping Red-Line AFKing
Maybe they should just do away with Red-Lines entirely.
I don't think the red line is the problem. At least behind the red line you are still (usually) able to be killed off. A bit of thought into making sure people are generally "at risk" on the battlefield would go a long way.
If you want to do something drastic just make the player chevron light up when a suit hasn't been utilized for some period of time. Call it a suit/operator malfunction issue -- either the controls of the suit aren't working and extraction is needed or the player has some type of problem and is unable to control the suit.
Hell, the suit could self-destruct to avoid AFK capture as the enemy might be able to capture it and remove codes and other intelligence -- it's not like the wearer can't get another clone. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
374
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Posted - 2013.05.25 09:58:00 -
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It's a lot less fun to AFK if you aren't able to be A. |
JL3Eleven
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
444
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:00:00 -
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Quit awarding points for simply being in the match. Problem solved.
Where's my cookie? |
Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:01:00 -
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Make rewards scale to accrued WP per minute gains. Problem solved. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
620
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:01:00 -
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People would just buy a tank and sit in the readline or sit on top of the mcc |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4647
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:22:00 -
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Its more like its going to take more coding than initially thought there is a TEAM of developers working on this. |
Mer Kure
DUST University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:44:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:They'll just find another way to break the game.
Red-Line Railgunning LAV Red-Line Repping Red-Line AFKing
Maybe they should just do away with Red-Lines entirely.
I don't think the red line is the problem. At least behind the red line you are still (usually) able to be killed off. A bit of thought into making sure people are generally "at risk" on the battlefield would go a long way. If you want to do something drastic just make the player chevron light up when a suit hasn't been utilized for some period of time. Call it a suit/operator malfunction issue -- either the controls of the suit aren't working and extraction is needed or the player has some type of problem and is unable to control the suit. Hell, the suit could self-destruct to avoid AFK capture as the enemy might be able to capture it and remove codes and other intelligence -- it's not like the wearer can't get another clone.
This would not work, AFK-ers would just set their controllers to spin round or keep walking into a wall. There are plenty easy ways to do this, most which don't require to buy anything, or extremely cheap stuff.
Getting rid of the red line would just make it worse, as spawn-camping would be a major problem then. Not to mention even then, there are plenty other ways and places to AFK, even getting rid of the MCC would probably still leave most AFK-ers. Believe it or not, there are plenty AFKers on Ambush maps as well, they just find a good spot to hid and stay there.
Setting it so one has to actually "move" places would be bad for people who use attack installations or some snipers, among other non-specific situations where one has to stay still. (Unless its a long time in-between, in which case AFK-ers would just flick their controllers every now and then anyways.)
My guess is that CCP has not talked on how to 'fix' AFK-ing because as of yet there may not be a good way to prevent it, without making it even more inconvenient to regular players at least. (I mean they could probably get rid of any and all ways of doing it, but with a method that would be even worse for everyone else and would bring even more complaining.) |
Hexen Trickster
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:48:00 -
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Add team killing.. let players take care of the afkers
or for those of you who are to scared to let us follow in eve footsteps of free fire.. make it so after a period of inactivity they are vulnerable or something.. idk i just want to shoot them i dant care of my wp takes a hit because of it
... On the plus side itd also make nova knifes useful |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
454
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:54:00 -
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There are a number of things that weren't delivered on in Uprising - maybe in a few years. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
53
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Posted - 2013.05.25 10:56:00 -
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awarding points for AFK is there to prevent people quiting the match
keeping the matches populated even if they dont do much
its not like they AFK forever
they will jump into battle eventually and there is a CAP
if no points are awarded for AFK whenever your team loses you quit and look for another game
and if you lose SP for quiting the match many will quit the game
with points awarded for AFK there is a chance they will join the fight , with none all you gona see is empty teams
have you ever seen a game with incomplete teams at the end of the match?
i didnt
think about AFKers like Naruto fillers episodes
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
302
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:45:00 -
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Remove SP gains for time spent in the mcc. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
619
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:48:00 -
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The best way to fix AFK is to make the SP gained based on what you actually do in battle not the time spent on the battle field, but CCP knows 90% of the scrubs that play this game will quit if they don't continue to get paid out for being completely useless on the battlefield. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its more like its going to take more coding than initially thought there is a TEAM of developers working on this. I would imagine it's hard to concentrate when you're just waiting to be a part of the next 20%.
Everyone knows Iceland seldom takes the whack so I would imagine it's all LinkedIn updates for everyone in Shanghai. |
Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
325
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Posted - 2013.05.25 12:00:00 -
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Huge ammounts of SP needed to do things + Bad skill + Less rewards per battle = Happy happy new players.
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Hexen Trickster
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:45:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Its more like its going to take more coding than initially thought there is a TEAM of developers working on this.
A few of there team members are AFK in the break room *cough cough*
I kid, im sure a fix will come thats fair.. and then the afkers will complain pretending that they actually are doing work and getting punished..
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fahrenheitM
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
280
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:50:00 -
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People still play pub matches? |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1949
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:14:00 -
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people still crying about this? lol...
hey, it's only been about 3-4 months, let's continue making threads about it! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
3221
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:31:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:people still crying about this? lol...
hey, it's only been about 3-4 months, let's continue making threads about it!
The only people who would be upset with AFK farmers losing AFK SP is AFK farmers
Go figure
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1950
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:people still crying about this? lol...
hey, it's only been about 3-4 months, let's continue making threads about it! The only people who would be upset with AFK farmers losing AFK SP is AFK farmers Go figure
I haven't been on DUST for 2 weeks...
go figure
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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:39:00 -
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They can't do crap to move towards a more WP focused reward system without a complete overhaul of the WP system first, and your chances of seeing that happen any time soon are likely laughable.
With the current WP system focused on little more than mindless rushes for hacking and aggressive pushes any defensive players are just being told to **** off. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
3221
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:39:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I haven't been on DUST for 2 weeks...
go figure
I haven't been on DUST in about the same amount of time
Lol failships.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1950
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:I haven't been on DUST for 2 weeks...
go figure
I haven't been on DUST in about the same amount of time Lol failships.
I don't see how people not giving a **** about people being AFK means I do it. WHO CARES!??
People care about PC, not some lame ass pub game. "OH NO! THERE'S SOME PEOPLE AFK IN THE MCC!! QQ AND THEY MADE US LOSE THIS MEANINGLESS PUB GAME! OOOH NOOOO"
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Banned From Forums
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:44:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:Seriously if there ever was a time it was "Uprising".
They didn't do it though and it's pretty clear why at this point.
Just imagine where server numbers would be is AFKers were kicked or vulnerable for a TK?
They get respecs. That's how CCP punishes afkers.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
542
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:46:00 -
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Nah because then afkers will just get a rubber band and whack it on the controller so they are always running
Only way to stop it is to have some many WP gained per min but for example it wouldnt work because bad player would get booted lol which maybe a plus |
Chinduko
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
112
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:31:00 -
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Hexen Trickster wrote:Add team killing.. let players take care of the afkers
or for those of you who are to scared to let us follow in eve footsteps of free fire.. make it so after a period of inactivity they are vulnerable or something.. idk i just want to shoot them i dant care of my wp takes a hit because of it
... On the plus side itd also make nova knifes useful
Yes. Let us regulate ourselves with friendly fire. There will be no more AFKers. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
92
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:38:00 -
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people crying about AFKers are usually redline snipers. Skirmish has always been the tame game mode. some people are just tamer than you. go play ambush. no AFKers there. its not a good idea to bring your sniper rifle though. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
143
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:55:00 -
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Chinduko wrote:Hexen Trickster wrote:Add team killing.. let players take care of the afkers
or for those of you who are to scared to let us follow in eve footsteps of free fire.. make it so after a period of inactivity they are vulnerable or something.. idk i just want to shoot them i dant care of my wp takes a hit because of it
... On the plus side itd also make nova knifes useful Yes. Let us regulate ourselves with friendly fire. There will be no more AFKers. Killing them will help red team to clone out your team faster ... But i support idea of enabling FF for pub matches... With negative WP and SP?
Afkers should be "marked" via introduction of "standing system"... Or no SP and ISK gain... |
Saki Seto
DUST University Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.05.25 17:32:00 -
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make this game fun. would do wonders for this afk problem. |
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