DUST Search - Upcoming Speeder/Hover bikes

mollerz wrote:

Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:

trollsroyce wrote:

HD is minmatar.

I rode with a guy who has a 50's panhead. He announced to the group: "We're either leaving now or in 20 minutes!" when trying to kick it.

After a few attempts, he replies "It won't start if anyones looking!" We all turned around and she started right up.

Definitely Minmatar

Depends. Some HD riders are what us bikers call weekend warriors. you know- spit shined HD with brand new leather saddlebags and uncreased chaps on the dude. Usually in their 50s. And an aging GF with bleached hair on the back.

Then there are HDs that are what we call rat bikes. Jaoanese bikes can be rat bikes as well. my bike is a CBR600rr but it would be called a rat bike. I don't fix damage, I supe up the internals. So race computer on board with chip, aftermarket exhaust that sounds mean but also shaves 25lbs off the weight, monoblock brembo front brake with braided SS cable (on rear brake as well), ohlins read shock.. i could go on :). It also has band aids on the rear fairing to represent each crash ;)

So amarr would be a shiny showroom harley. minmatar would be a sons of anarchy harley.

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mollerz s1ck3r Corp 288	Posted - 2013.05.25 04:02:00 - [1] - Quote As an avid motorcyclist with an illegally suped up, and consequently fun, race bike, I am really looking forward to the speeder bikes coming in an expansion. Since they are still in SOONvelopment, I thought I would weigh in from the POV of someone who has been through it all on a two wheeled speed demons (lately a black GÇÖ07 CBR600rr with about $15k of aftermarket parts installed on it ). LetGÇÖs begin with real world counterparts to address the look, feel, and purposes of what eve racial bikes would kind of seem to be IMHO: Caldari- Japanese Racers. Honda, Yamaha, and Kawasaki. Bare minimal and highly functional. Made to go fast and to last. Gallente- Italian Cafe Racers. Ducati, Aprilla, and MV Agusta. High end and expensive upkeep. No faster than the competition really, but it looks better getting places. Minmatar- KTM, Motards and rat bikes. Could be any brand, but they are typically far prettier on the inside than the outside. Usually suped up and purpose specialized bikes either modeled after other races, or consist of outright bastardized originals. Amarr- BMWs and Harleys. Image driven and beefy. They represent more than a brand, but a way of life. Expensive yet sought after, they truly represent form over function. NON-NEGOTIABLE... if you want to succeed with these vehicles, at least :): Physics have to be spot on. !!!Control!!! has to be spot on. bikes should posses very quick acceleration but also be very very maneuverable. Hitting a lamp post would obviously be devastating, but the ability to avoid such obstacles has to be paramount. Going fast quickly, much like real life, will be a disaster if they are not laser beam johnny on the spot as far as controllability. The reason race bikes donGÇÖt kill everyone who rides them (mostly) is due to the fact they are extremely controllable; even at high speeds. They canGÇÖt flip, get stuck on terrain, or catch on edges as they zip around. Shields should represent lighter and faster (Caldari, Gallente, and some Minmatar). Armor should represent slower and more capacity (Amarr and some Minmatar). Some bikes should be better with regards to paved/flat surfaces, and others better for off-roading. I know they will hover/float, but it could be a nice distinction. Much like a race bike vs an enduro type of approach. Modules: Scanning, afterburners, cloaking, etc.modules should be included, of course. As far as some specialty modules, IGÇÖd love to at least see a couple GÇ£BikeGÇ¥ specialized or oriented modules. IGÇÖd love to hear ideas? Perhaps spike strips to take out LAVs? Mine layers? target painters? ThatGÇÖs just an initial .02isk. IGÇÖd love to hear any one elseGÇÖs thoughts because, I for one, and really looking forward to these little monsters being unleashed on eve.
Xender17 Murderz for hire 103	Posted - 2013.05.25 04:06:00 - [2] - Quote How fast. my only question HOW FAST?
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 18	Posted - 2013.05.25 04:17:00 - [3] - Quote haha well played to the OP he has summed up the racial bike to real life counter parts perfectly. As for your handling request... yea good luck with that bud, LAVs can still jump 200m in the air after hitting a stone all the while corkscrewing 2000 rotations like a bad ass James Bond.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 445	Posted - 2013.05.25 04:21:00 - [4] - Quote I demand CCP nerf walls of text by requiring any post containing more than 140 characters contain a TL;DR.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 288	Posted - 2013.05.25 05:02:00 - [5] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I demand CCP nerf walls of text by requiring any post containing more than 140 characters contain a TL;DR. oh sorry about that! TL;DR Your mom even thinks you suck.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 288	Posted - 2013.05.25 05:02:00 - [6] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: haha well played to the OP he has summed up the racial bike to real life counter parts perfectly. As for your handling request... yea good luck with that bud, LAVs can still jump 200m in the air after hitting a stone all the while corkscrewing 2000 rotations like a bad ass James Bond. I know, but at least I could say I told you so.
Guildo Crow PROJECT 86 U 28	Posted - 2013.05.25 05:08:00 - [7] - Quote mollerz wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I demand CCP nerf walls of text by requiring any post containing more than 140 characters contain a TL;DR. oh sorry about that! TL;DR Your mom even thinks you suck. +1
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 428	Posted - 2013.05.25 07:38:00 - [8] - Quote I'm thinking about speeders, and as fast as they may be they'll still be handicapped by the 15 second delay from sending your request to actually riding. Maps are still so small that the speed isn't worth the 15 seconds. So to take advantage of them currently, you'd need to keep them out at all times. But you can't really just walk away from them as they will either blow up or get stolen. What would be nice is some stealth module to make it invisible when you dismount, or perhaps a new equipment that stealths everything nearby, sort of like that gadget from the Unreal Engine 4 demo. I suppose a potential solution would be to park it a good ways away from your destination and drop a bubble shield around it. Or keep complaining until they get major armor buffs so we can take hits from mulitple swarms and simply make a living off running people over
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 25	Posted - 2013.05.25 07:44:00 - [9] - Quote They have already shown concept art for the Caldari and Gallente Variants of these and many other new things coming to dust here: http://imgur.com/a/4bKjz#22
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 453	Posted - 2013.05.25 08:51:00 - [10] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: I demand CCP nerf walls of text by requiring any post containing more than 140 characters contain a TL;DR. Go back to Twitter.

Drommy Hood The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 279	Posted - 2013.05.25 08:53:00 - [11] - Quote inkeeping with new eden designs: Caldari: built for function. No mad cons, all gun metal, wider than other speeders and shorter. 15m/s, highest shields, lowest armor. Gallente: Some uneeded flair and colour. average width average length, above average armor, average shields, 16m/s Amarr: GOLD AND ***** SHAPED, Highest armor, lowest shields 14m/s Minimatar: Rusty brown, slimmest and longest, (think the stabber, for any eve players). Averge shields and armor. 17/ms
Aeon Amadi Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 1374	Posted - 2013.05.25 08:56:00 - [12] - Quote My only issue is that they SHOULD NOT - ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT - be brought in by the RDVs. Would be silly having to wait in excess of 15+ seconds to get your speed demon which has no offensive capabilities. They should drop, from orbit, and hit the ground via Inertia Dampeners, same as dropsuits. INSTANTLY.
Succendo Goonfeet 25	Posted - 2013.05.25 08:59:00 - [13] - Quote I can't wait to pilot a bike with terrible handling that crashes into everything. It'll be just like my college years.
trollsroyce Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 474	Posted - 2013.05.25 09:31:00 - [14] - Quote HD is minmatar.
Slash Phage Vacuum Cleaner. LLC RUST415 7	Posted - 2013.05.25 11:26:00 - [15] - Quote I would like to speculate about which class takes the most benefit of this speeder. I this the new PAWNmobil for heavies?
Jenova's Witness Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2013.05.25 11:34:00 - [16] - Quote Succendo wrote: I can't wait to pilot a bike with terrible handling that crashes into everything. It'll be just like my college years. I might make an alt that specializes in them. I'll name him... Ben Roethlisberger!
Cody Allentek Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2013.05.25 12:00:00 - [17] - Quote I hope the speeder bikes are three times faster as the LAVs so I can do twice as much road killing..err I mean so I can quickly cap an objective, leave and cap another.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 296	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:30:00 - [18] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: My only issue is that they SHOULD NOT - ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT - be brought in by the RDVs. Would be silly having to wait in excess of 15+ seconds to get your speed demon which has no offensive capabilities. They should drop, from orbit, and hit the ground via Inertia Dampeners, same as dropsuits. INSTANTLY. Now that is a bad as idea! +1 my friend. Also, the ideas about cloaking it are good. A bike would need to go a lot faster than 17 m/s. More like 74 m/s or so depending. And it would help to have bigger maps of course. Since they talked about jets with the bikes at fanfest, I'd imagine both of their releases would coincide with far larger maps being introduced. Because the only thing worse than a speeder bike on a small map is a jet on a small map. Dual flaylocks on the front would be pretty sweet :)
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1472	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:36:00 - [19] - Quote Drommy Hood wrote: Amarr: Highest armor, lowest shields Sir, that is not how it works in DUST.
Cyrius Li-Moody The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 126	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:40:00 - [20] - Quote trollsroyce wrote: HD is minmatar. I rode with a guy who has a 50's panhead. He announced to the group: "We're either leaving now or in 20 minutes!" when trying to kick it. After a few attempts, he replies "It won't start if anyones looking!" We all turned around and she started right up. Definitely Minmatar

mollerz s1ck3r Corp 296	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:48:00 - [21] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: trollsroyce wrote: HD is minmatar. I rode with a guy who has a 50's panhead. He announced to the group: "We're either leaving now or in 20 minutes!" when trying to kick it. After a few attempts, he replies "It won't start if anyones looking!" We all turned around and she started right up. Definitely Minmatar Depends. Some HD riders are what us bikers call weekend warriors. you know- spit shined HD with brand new leather saddlebags and uncreased chaps on the dude. Usually in their 50s. And an aging GF with bleached hair on the back. Then there are HDs that are what we call rat bikes. Jaoanese bikes can be rat bikes as well. my bike is a CBR600rr but it would be called a rat bike. I don't fix damage, I supe up the internals. So race computer on board with chip, aftermarket exhaust that sounds mean but also shaves 25lbs off the weight, monoblock brembo front brake with braided SS cable (on rear brake as well), ohlins read shock.. i could go on :). It also has band aids on the rear fairing to represent each crash ;) So amarr would be a shiny showroom harley. minmatar would be a sons of anarchy harley.
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 320	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:55:00 - [22] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: trollsroyce wrote: HD is minmatar. I rode with a guy who has a 50's panhead. He announced to the group: "We're either leaving now or in 20 minutes!" when trying to kick it. After a few attempts, he replies "It won't start if anyones looking!" We all turned around and she started right up. Definitely Minmatar Depends. Some HD riders are what us bikers call weekend warriors. you know- spit shined HD with brand new leather saddlebags and uncreased chaps on the dude. Usually in their 50s. And an aging GF with bleached hair on the back. Then there are HDs that are what we call rat bikes. Jaoanese bikes can be rat bikes as well. my bike is a CBR600rr but it would be called a rat bike. I don't fix damage, I supe up the internals. So race computer on board with chip, aftermarket exhaust that sounds mean but also shaves 25lbs off the weight, monoblock brembo front brake with braided SS cable (on rear brake as well), ohlins read shock.. i could go on :). It also has band aids on the rear fairing to represent each crash ;) So amarr would be a shiny showroom harley. minmatar would be a sons of anarchy harley. I would think Minmatar would be any brand name bike but customized. Look at the Yamaha Vmax (Gen 1) look at the stupid amount of modifications people do to it, to the point the only thing that is still a Vmax is the motor.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 40	Posted - 2013.05.26 13:20:00 - [23] - Quote mollerz wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: trollsroyce wrote: HD is minmatar. I rode with a guy who has a 50's panhead. He announced to the group: "We're either leaving now or in 20 minutes!" when trying to kick it. After a few attempts, he replies "It won't start if anyones looking!" We all turned around and she started right up. Definitely Minmatar Depends. Some HD riders are what us bikers call weekend warriors. you know- spit shined HD with brand new leather saddlebags and uncreased chaps on the dude. Usually in their 50s. And an aging GF with bleached hair on the back. Then there are HDs that are what we call rat bikes. Jaoanese bikes can be rat bikes as well. my bike is a CBR600rr but it would be called a rat bike. I don't fix damage, I supe up the internals. So race computer on board with chip, aftermarket exhaust that sounds mean but also shaves 25lbs off the weight, monoblock brembo front brake with braided SS cable (on rear brake as well), ohlins read shock.. i could go on :). It also has band aids on the rear fairing to represent each crash ;) So amarr would be a shiny showroom harley. minmatar would be a sons of anarchy harley. +1 to you, Sir. Although when it comes to suspension I am more of a Penske guy.... I am waiting for speeders and bikes more than any other vehicles. LAVs, HAVs and dropships hold no appeal, but fighters and speeders - all the way! I definitely think these need to wait for bigger maps though.... and a passenger carrying ability would be fun. I'd enjoy speed running a team mate deep behind enemy lines to drop uplinks or hack objectives.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 390	Posted - 2013.05.26 14:01:00 - [24] - Quote Dude, you're going to get a fat wheeled tricycle man... it's not a "ride" it's a weapon and transport platform.
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 66	Posted - 2013.05.26 14:50:00 - [25] - Quote My requirements are simple: 1. It insta-spawns when called, insta-despawn on command 2. Has hidden explosive in seat. If stolen, press button, thief go BOOM 3. Fast, agile with minimal shield and Armor. It will help against raking fire from ARs etc but you hit a dropsuit then you both die 4. It replaces the free LAV with the militia variant of the hover cycle. This is what I would like as a minimum. 5. Better models that you could skill into would be very nice.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2013.05.26 15:03:00 - [26] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: My requirements are simple: 1. It insta-spawns when called, insta-despawn on command 2. Has hidden explosive in seat. If stolen, press button, thief go BOOM 3. Fast, agile with minimal shield and Armor. It will help against raking fire from ARs etc but you hit a dropsuit then you both die 4. It replaces the free LAV with the militia variant of the hover cycle. This is what I would like as a minimum. 5. Better models that you could skill into would be very nice. All except insta despawn
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 750	Posted - 2013.05.26 15:13:00 - [27] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: My requirements are simple: 1. It insta-spawns when called, insta-despawn on command 2. Has hidden explosive in seat. If stolen, press button, thief go BOOM 3. Fast, agile with minimal shield and Armor. It will help against raking fire from ARs etc but you hit a dropsuit then you both die 4. It replaces the free LAV with the militia variant of the hover cycle. This is what I would like as a minimum. 5. Better models that you could skill into would be very nice. All except insta despawn Every vehicle despawns almost instantly....
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2013.05.26 18:05:00 - [28] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: My requirements are simple: 1. It insta-spawns when called, insta-despawn on command 2. Has hidden explosive in seat. If stolen, press button, thief go BOOM 3. Fast, agile with minimal shield and Armor. It will help against raking fire from ARs etc but you hit a dropsuit then you both die 4. It replaces the free LAV with the militia variant of the hover cycle. This is what I would like as a minimum. 5. Better models that you could skill into would be very nice. All except insta despawn Every vehicle despawns almost instantly.... Oh - I thought the dropship thingy had to remove them from the battlefield.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations 3240	Posted - 2013.05.26 18:08:00 - [29] - Quote I just want them to retain momentum when you jump off, so you can launch them into enemies
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1244	Posted - 2013.05.26 18:10:00 - [30] - Quote How about right before you crash you get a op up text typing test. Quick! Spell spoon! If you spell it fast enough you turn avoiding the crash!

Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 752	Posted - 2013.05.26 18:11:00 - [31] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: My requirements are simple: 1. It insta-spawns when called, insta-despawn on command 2. Has hidden explosive in seat. If stolen, press button, thief go BOOM 3. Fast, agile with minimal shield and Armor. It will help against raking fire from ARs etc but you hit a dropsuit then you both die 4. It replaces the free LAV with the militia variant of the hover cycle. This is what I would like as a minimum. 5. Better models that you could skill into would be very nice. All except insta despawn Every vehicle despawns almost instantly.... Oh - I thought the dropship thingy had to remove them from the battlefield. Nope, it despawns like dead bodies use to


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