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Hexen Trickster
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:11:00 -
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Ways to adapt without ruining to much of your regular fit
1) My first humble suggestion is to spec into some proximity explosives, you know what the car is driving toward (your face) simply put a remote explosive between you and it and watch the purdy explosion (bonus points if you walk away while not looking at the explosion, we all know thats awesome)
2) The humble AV grenade. the regular ones may not take out a LAV in 1 shot but advanced packed AV grenades do! The best bit is your dont have to aim, just toss it in the general direction and if your to lazy to do that toss it on the ground at your feet, that badboy will home in on the LAV if it gets close
3) Ram them yourself. As a avid tank driver i take alot of joy in simply ramming LAV's to death, just drop a milita tank and run em all over! Tank to costly? ram them with your very own FREE LAV. (Warning occupant may wish to jump out at last second to avoid also becoming dead)
These 3 things can easly be fit into any regular dropsuit without to many huge issues. You may also wish to try spending some sp on a AV suit since there are many more vehicles soon(TM) to come. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:20:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:All that needs to be done is get rid of the free BPO LAV. Make people pay for their murder taxis, buy a BPO militia one for aurum (like with weapons), or shell out for an elite or veteran pack.
I'd really hope they would take all the free stuff from the game and replace them with limited run copies.
And if BPO's are going to work like they do in EVE (I hope so) you still need to actually manufacture it and that requires resources. |
Liner ReXiandra
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2013.05.25 11:22:00 -
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Ecshon Autorez wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm a BF3 player Well there's your problem.
No, it's a valid concern he brings up.
Engineer (or anti-vehicle) classes in BF3 spawn with a fairly decent rifle to counter personnel, along with a range of AV weaponry.
Dust 514 will have you spawn in either a medium suit, with a thumbtac shooting smg or finnicky pistol to counter personnel, and lock you depending on medium/heavy suit into a swarm launcher (which is vehicle lockon only) or plasma/forge gun. In the event that there are no vehicles to shoot, you're a sitting duck to personnel in your heavy suit.
When you run out of vehicles to shoot, you *need* to swap dropsuits because otherwise you're a massive waste to your team. In Battlefield 3, this problem is solved by having enough options to counter different types with a same fit.
Dust's fittings should be able to properly specialize into AV; but currently there is no middle ground to cover all bases fairly decent. This is because of a massive lack of weapons available - bound to happen when you release a game with only half it's content. |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
34
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:22:00 -
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In battlefield they put a cap on the number of vehicles spawned on the field depending on map size.
Might be worth looking into. I am just waiting until megacorps start to have 15 HAV's on the field with support.
Until then SWARMLANCHER!!!!!! |
Hexen Trickster
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:47:00 -
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Rusty Shaklefurd wrote:In battlefield they put a cap on the number of vehicles spawned on the field depending on map size.
Might be worth looking into. I am just waiting until megacorps start to have 15 HAV's on the field with support.
Until then SWARMLANCHER!!!!!!
There is a cap in dust, dont quote me on this but i think its 3 HAV and 6 LAV and probably 2-3 dropships |
Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
296
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:59:00 -
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Maybe for Sentinel suits... |
Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
11
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:26:00 -
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WTF are you bringing AR's into it for? Don't go blaming AR's, TARs are a bit of a problem but not regular AR's which might as well be a god damned pea shooter. Gimme back my range. |
Aisha Ctarl
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
117
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Posted - 2013.05.25 15:54:00 -
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Liner ReXiandra wrote:Ecshon Autorez wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:I'm a BF3 player Well there's your problem. No, it's a valid concern he brings up. Engineer (or anti-vehicle) classes in BF3 spawn with a fairly decent rifle to counter personnel, along with a range of AV weaponry. Dust 514 will have you spawn in either a medium suit, with a thumbtac shooting smg or finnicky pistol to counter personnel, and lock you depending on medium/heavy suit into a swarm launcher (which is vehicle lockon only) or plasma/forge gun. In the event that there are no vehicles to shoot, you're a sitting duck to personnel in your heavy suit. When you run out of vehicles to shoot, you *need* to swap dropsuits because otherwise you're a massive waste to your team. In Battlefield 3, this problem is solved by having enough options to counter different types with a same fit. Dust's fittings should be able to properly specialize into AV; but currently there is no middle ground to cover all bases fairly decent. This is because of a massive lack of weapons available - bound to happen when you release a game with only half it's content.
This is exactly what I was trying to get across.
In DUST it would be more useful if I could fit say the SCR and a plasma cannon instead of one or the other.
Who wants to be limited to one role? If you run AV you're gimped against infantry, if you run anti infantry, well prepare to be roadkill. It's infuriating.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
92
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:00:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher.
Militia LAVs aren't a problem, they are a gift. I shouldn't be forced to roll with AV gear because the only way people can kill is to run you over.
You shouldn't be allowed to cry until you have tried AV. You get more ISK if you destroy more stuff. Your squad should have at least 2 AV guys. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
92
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:06:00 -
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Quote:This is exactly what I was trying to get across.
In DUST it would be more useful if I could fit say the SCR and a plasma cannon instead of one or the other.
Who wants to be limited to one role? If you run AV you're gimped against infantry, if you run anti infantry, well prepare to be roadkill. It's infuriating.
Again squad up with different types of players. A whole squad of AR guys is a nightmare to fight. HAV, LAV, and drop ships trump this though. AV trumps vehicles. AR guys trump AV guys.
Its paper, rock, scissors and you are crying that scissors dont always win.
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Full Metal Kitten
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
530
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:17:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher. You got a lot of likes for incorrect information. Well played!
Bottom line, Chromosome free LAVs were fine. That's essentially what you described anyway. |
Charizard Zakalwe
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:18:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:
I shouldn't be forced to roll with AV gear because the only way people can kill is to run you over.
*facepalm* You seem to be missing the point of having multiple fitting options, customisation, AV weapons available and an ability to swap them out at supply depots in game. I get the point, my point is I don't want to be AV period, if I see an HAV I simply run the other way. I shouldn't have to worry about LAV spam and have to be forced to switch roles just to take out some drunken idiot on a joy ride.
Well aren't you precious.
BEEP BEEP
Jeeps need horns. |
Udaeus Sol
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:33:00 -
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Oh god no, armor lock is the very reason I quit halo. |
Shijima Kuraimaru
WarRavens
205
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:06:00 -
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I don't want armor lock. I just want the LAV to take damage equivalent to the victims current shields + armor + 1 on impact. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1344
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:10:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher.
Militia LAVs aren't a problem, they are a gift. I shouldn't be forced to roll with AV gear because the only way people can kill is to run you over. Are you reading what you're saying? You're asking to be forced to use armor lock because the only way people can kill is to run you over.
All you're asking for is a new type of AV |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
1
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:23:00 -
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1. No. This isn't Halo.
2. You should be enjoying the easy points. |
BOOOOOOM Headshot
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
3
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:28:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher.
Militia LAVs aren't a problem, they are a gift.
BUT none of those AV weapons can kill my 3000 hp murder taxi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1346
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:31:00 -
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BOOOOOOM Headshot wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher.
Militia LAVs aren't a problem, they are a gift. BUT none of those AV weapons can kill my 3000 hp murder taxi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If it's still like when I had a logi LAV last build, the most deadly AV weapon against you will be a blueberry ramming you, or superaccurate turret AI sniping you from the driver's seat. |
Dr Poopypants
Dropsuit Repository
2
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:37:00 -
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Vee Abbey wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: Yep we should be able to slam our fists into the ground and any LAV that hits us instantly is destroyed.
r u trolling??
Actually, in my imagination we can hack our inertia dampeners, and suicide on contact. Since we Immortal
inertia dam
Check? |
Mr Sprinklez
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:40:00 -
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I just don't understand why the LAV doesn't take damage when it hits someone. In real life if you hit someone going 60 miles per hour that person will at least dent your bumper, and people in real life aren't wearing incredibly heavy suits of metal. |
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Dr Poopypants
Dropsuit Repository
2
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:41:00 -
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BOOOOOOM Headshot wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher.
Militia LAVs aren't a problem, they are a gift. BUT none of those AV weapons can kill my 3000 hp murder taxi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
forge gun 9k330 can. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
266
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:49:00 -
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Full Metal Kitten wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher. You got a lot of likes for incorrect information. Well played! Bottom line, Chromosome free LAVs were fine. That's essentially what you described anyway. This ^^
Personally I switch to a completely FREE AV starter fit with the swarms and 3 highs n no lows ... swapped out the highs for triple bpo militia light damage mods and a bpo hive n watch the bank roll inflate :-) ... but it still takes 2 volleys even if all the missiles hit. |
Dr Poopypants
Dropsuit Repository
2
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Posted - 2013.05.26 02:53:00 -
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Mr Sprinklez wrote:I just don't understand why the LAV doesn't take damage when it hits someone. In real life if you hit someone going 60 miles per hour that person will at least dent your bumper, and people in real life aren't wearing incredibly heavy suits of metal.
Some heavies stop your momentum , and I think they should do moderate collision damage. |
DeadlyAztec11
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
352
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Posted - 2013.05.26 03:19:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Vee Abbey wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: Yep we should be able to slam our fists into the ground and any LAV that hits us instantly is destroyed.
r u trolling?? It's called sarcasm...it doesn't play out well over text since you can't hear inflection. Sarcasm is crappier than the Nova knives' hit detection |
BOOOOOOM Headshot
Grupo de Asalto Chacal CRONOS.
5
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:07:00 -
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Dr Poopypants wrote:BOOOOOOM Headshot wrote:iceyburnz wrote:Militia LAVs can be one shotted by a militia Forge Gun.
Militia LAVs can be destroyed by 2 standard AV grenades.
Militia LAVS can be two shotted by a Standard Plasma Cannon.
Militia LAVS can be one volleyed by a Standard Swarm Launcher.
Militia LAVs aren't a problem, they are a gift. BUT none of those AV weapons can kill my 3000 hp murder taxi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! forge gun 9k330 can.
but it will be hard to hit me , they call me dominic toreto xD |
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