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Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:01:00 -
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http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut |
Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:21:00 -
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durrrrp |
Spergin McBadposter
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
46
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:33:00 -
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Sounds almost exactly like the tac AR. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:36:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut
Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
524
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:37:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments.
Hey, competitive checkers is a thing too.
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Zekain K
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:39:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments. Hey, competitive checkers is a thing too.
Yea but checkers takes skill. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1909
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:39:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments. Hey, competitive checkers is a thing too.
competitive Scrabble... not even joking. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
279
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:45:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments.
Irony = competitive Dust 514 tournaments .... oh.... wait.... |
dent 308
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:45:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments. Hey, competitive checkers is a thing too. competitive Scrabble... not even joking.
The scrabble circuit is serious business. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
617
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:47:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Buster Friently wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Knarf Black wrote:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/why-a-gun-became-so-deadly-it-had-to-be-banned-from-competitive-call-of-dut Irony = competitive Call of Duty tournaments. Hey, competitive checkers is a thing too. competitive Scrabble... not even joking. The scrabble circuit is serious business.
Word. |
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Kaze Eyrou
ROGUE SPADES
EoN.
244
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:48:00 -
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Just because a single gun was banned from an MLG tournament doesn't mean CCP will get a bright idea and look at the TAR and realize that it needs to be nerfed...
In any case, has anyone mentioned clip size? Rate of fire is high yes, but some players are good at firing fast. Damage is supposed to be high because it's supposed to hit hard at a longer range. but I think we need to do something different.
I know hip fire was mentioned. Make the tac rifle have an aim box at the hip the same size or slightly smaller than the sniper rifle. That way it's difficult to use in close combat.
And my idea, reduce clip size and max ammo. Half it and it should be fine. They only need 12 shots anyways. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:50:00 -
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It all boils down to the modded controllers.
Dust can learn from the Halo series and setup a limiter by simply having the gun fire as fast as the animation allows rather than as fast as the trigger can be pulled. The Covenant Carbine and UNSC DMR are perfect examples of tactical assault rifles with limiters. This feature is what made modded controllers absolutely useless in the Halo series because the animations of the Covenant Carbine and the UNSC DMR couldn't process any faster than about 2-3 shots per second while most modded controllers can go as far as 15 shots per second.
I'm surprised that Call of Duty never learned from this despite the benefits of imposing such an animation-based limiter. Dust could learn from this. |
Novawolf McDustingham The514th
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2013.05.24 19:52:00 -
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I'm not really sure why more DEVs don't just break each shot with an animation to limit the number of shots you can fire in succession to a reasonable amount or limit certain movements just enough to break the advantage of secondary jump/prone button mods.
This isn't a new issue, it has been coming up over and over for years and years but DEVs seem to be trapped in an almost tard level of neivte over it to the point in some cases of denying it is possible at all. |
Schalac 17
Murderz for hire
165
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:13:00 -
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GÇ£Some players asked for a patch instead, calling for Treyarch to nerf the gun, but in the end, it didn't make sense logistically to nerf the FAL for all when the professional scene represents 1% of the overall community,GÇ¥ said Rubens.
Why nerf the TAR when there isn't even a professional scene in DUST. Other guns kill people in DUST and they do it quite well. Plus we haven't even seen what the Minny AR is going to be like. It might destroy the TAR and then you will have a nerfed TAR that noone uses and everyone just training Minny ARs instead. |
Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
95
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:16:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:GÇ£Some players asked for a patch instead, calling for Treyarch to nerf the gun, but in the end, it didn't make sense logistically to nerf the FAL for all when the professional scene represents 1% of the overall community,GÇ¥ said Rubens.
Why nerf the TAR when there isn't even a professional scene in DUST. Other guns kill people in DUST and they do it quite well. Plus we haven't even seen what the Minny AR is going to be like. It might destroy the TAR and then you will have a nerfed TAR that noone uses and everyone just training Minny ARs instead.
This is true.
Maybe tweak it until then? |
ReGnUm AwOx Dei
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:23:00 -
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lo |
DreddWings
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:25:00 -
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Dumb. Only idiots would ban a in game gun over banning the modded controllers themselves. Simple solution, take the screws out for MLG play. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:26:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:GÇ£Some players asked for a patch instead, calling for Treyarch to nerf the gun, but in the end, it didn't make sense logistically to nerf the FAL for all when the professional scene represents 1% of the overall community,GÇ¥ said Rubens.
Why nerf the TAR when there isn't even a professional scene in DUST. Other guns kill people in DUST and they do it quite well. Plus we haven't even seen what the Minny AR is going to be like. It might destroy the TAR and then you will have a nerfed TAR that noone uses and everyone just training Minny ARs instead.
Think of PC like participation in MLG.
This is where all the big shots (who are not busy pubstomping) are playing.
And if you look around, you will notice that they are all using the TAC, just like the MLG players. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:32:00 -
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Quote:supposed to win close range gun fights, however, the FAL is too powerful and can win the fight in too many different situations.GÇ¥
The result was that players were essentially forced into using this gun over all others, and that makes the game pretty boring. And it's not super exciting when all players essentially have an instant death beam at their disposal. |
Sister Genevieve
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:35:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:
And my idea, reduce clip size and max ammo. Half it and it should be fine. They only need 12 shots anyways.
Totally! The damage doesn't bother me, just half the clip size and it will mean you need skill to use it effectively.
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