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stormtroopin
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:25:00 -
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Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing.
Thanks for clarifying that you meant Tactical version, lol cuz I was about to go aggro. The regular AR's are fine. The tactical Duvolle definitely needs either hipfire dispersion or damage nerfed. it sounds like you are getting out-ranged for the most part. friday nights are pretty active corp wise and i don't think we've squadded up yet. i'll roll w ya if you get on this evening and show you how to counter it. |
stormtroopin
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:31:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Looks like somebody forgot their logibro today  Though if you're talking about TARs then I agree. It's all ARs, they out DPS every weapon in the game. This is intentional for some reason because everything else keeps getting nerfed. What got nerfed while the ARs didn't? Only thing I can think of is laser rifles which did need to happen but was over-corrected. Also ARs did get nerfed at the same time with range. I've tried all ARs and gone up against all ARs, the only one that needs fixing is the TAR. Did you ever perhaps think that since ARs are the general go-to weapon that there are simply more players who spec'd into them (and would of regardless of how powerful they are). More players using a weapon means more chance of a good player using a weapon. Don't call for a nerf because the player is good.
no matter how many times someone brings up this point, the butthurt anti-AR people are always going to complain. a more COMMON weapon does not mean overpowered weapon. the AR is just a very vanilla go-to choice for infantry. so a lot of people use it. so a lot of people die by it.
of course except the TAR.. which legitimately has issues. to the OP, heavies need chubby chasers, and you need to roll in a squad. usually strafing is the best counter for the TAR for right now, but as a heavy you're kinda s.o.l. on that. stick to your squad and dont fight in the open. the TAR will rip ANYONE to shreds that way. not just heavies. |
stormtroopin
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:44:00 -
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Pyro Danielson wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Looks like somebody forgot their logibro today Though if you're talking about TARs then I agree. It's all ARs, they out DPS every weapon in the game. This is intentional for some reason because everything else keeps getting nerfed. What got nerfed while the ARs didn't? Only thing I can think of is laser rifles which did need to happen but was over-corrected. Also ARs did get nerfed at the same time with range. I've tried all ARs and gone up against all ARs, the only one that needs fixing is the TAR. Did you ever perhaps think that since ARs are the general go-to weapon that there are simply more players who spec'd into them (and would of regardless of how powerful they are). More players using a weapon means more chance of a good player using a weapon. Don't call for a nerf because the player is good. I know that Heavy Machine Guns got nerfed on damage and range. I can't think of any others off the top of my head.
but it also received a 10% damage buff after that. and the AR and LR got range increase skill taken away. heavies aren't the mid range mowers they used to be (i think intentionally). if you don't enjoy playing the heavy as they are now you might consider taking CCP up on the optional respec, because i believe heavies may not be changing much if at all. you will notice a big difference if/when the TAR gets nerfed, but if you're being taken out by regular AR users easily, it may be that the role of heavy isnt your thing.
(also don't forget to try rolling in a squad when you get online. heavy rolling by himself is prime target and you won't last long. ask for squads in the corp channel, or dust.gents channel.) |
stormtroopin
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:48:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Looks like somebody forgot their logibro today Though if you're talking about TARs then I agree. It's all ARs, they out DPS every weapon in the game. This is intentional for some reason because everything else keeps getting nerfed. What got nerfed while the ARs didn't? Only thing I can think of is laser rifles which did need to happen but was over-corrected. Also ARs did get nerfed at the same time with range. I've tried all ARs and gone up against all ARs, the only one that needs fixing is the TAR. Did you ever perhaps think that since ARs are the general go-to weapon that there are simply more players who spec'd into them (and would of regardless of how powerful they are). More players using a weapon means more chance of a good player using a weapon. Don't call for a nerf because the player is good. HMG, Shotgun, MD, lasers and scrambler pistols all took a damage or utility hit. HMG got double nerfed in DPS and range, shotguns got a wider spread, MD got damage/radius nerf with the nanohive nerf starving the weapon, lasers tickle and taste like lemon and scrambler pistols lost the headshot multiplier. I wouldn't expect you to keep up with this stuff since the HMG was the only one that was listed on the patch notes, the rest were ninja nerfed. I didn't even know about half of these until I found out from friends and on the forums. The removal of sharpshooter wasn't an AR nerf, it was the removal of a game breaking mechanic that affected all weapons. While everything else was nerfed to laughable levels, the AR stayed the same. But when the 10% damage boost came in, the AR didn't need the full 10% (maybe only 5%) and the TAR sure as hell didn't need it. We didn't even have a problem with the TAR until after that damage buff. Want to know why 90% of our players run around with the AR? It's not because it's not because it's a good weapon. It's because it's the only good weapon because everything else is ****.
EVERYTHING else is ****? lol.. dude common sense should tell you that you just suck with everything else if other people can kill things just fine with snipers/FG's/MD's/SCR's/flaylocks/etc.. |
stormtroopin
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:00:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. So don't fret OP, I feel your pain. I just hope CCP realizes how much damage the TAR is doing to this game and making new player's leave. Pretty soon all that's going to be left are corps from PC playing their game TAC 514. It needs a nerf, pronto.
oh they know. CCP has brought the nerf hammer with far less complaints before. the TAR is mega-busted. right now people are just getting their fill before it goes away. so for the time being, just gotta hang in there and hope that SoonGäó actually means Soon. |
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