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SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:55:00 -
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Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing.
Be careful what you say about the TAR around these forums. You will get shunned by glorified users of that gun.
I wrote a whole essay as to why it needs to be nerfed and got called an idiot for it. Basically I said this game is turning into Halo (Battle Rifle/DMR) with only one weapon in mind. I tried explaining that there whole corps pubstomping New players in instant battle to feel elitist with that easy mode gun.
OP, I have been here since the the start of the open beta, have over 5mil SP, and it was never like this before the uprising build. Players where actually using all types of weapons and all the TAR needed was a slight buff, not this mega-op-buff we have now.
Top corps abuse this broken gun and they know it. If mostly if not all the players are using that one weapon, something is wrong.
I found that if I select instant battle (skirmish) you will find that none of these big corps are playing that game mode because that's all there is in Planetary Conquest. They are mostly playing the ambush game modes. Funny thing is that I was having more fun playing with either non-player corps or small corps that can't compete against large corps in PC, and hardly anyone was using the TAR. Once again, the gun game felt balanced. I was getting one shotted from multiple angles, and actually had a chance.
So don't fret OP, I feel your pain. I just hope CCP realizes how much damage the TAR is doing to this game and making new player's leave. Pretty soon all that's going to be left are corps from PC playing their game TAC 514. It needs a nerf, pronto. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:28:00 -
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Pyro Danielson wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. Be careful what you say about the TAR around these forums. You will get shunned by glorified users of that gun. I wrote a whole essay as to why it needs to be nerfed and got called an idiot for it. Basically I said this game is turning into Halo (Battle Rifle/DMR) with only one weapon in mind. I tried explaining that there are whole corps pubstomping New players in instant battle to feel elitist with that easy mode gun. OP, I have been here since the the start of the open beta, have over 5mil SP, and it was never like this before the uprising build. Players where actually using all types of weapons and all the TAR needed was a slight buff, not this mega-op-buff we have now. Top corps abuse this broken gun and they know it. Mostly if not all the players are using that one weapon, something is wrong. I found that if I select instant battle (skirmish) you will find that none of these big corps are playing that game mode because that's all there is in Planetary Conquest. They are mostly playing the ambush game modes. Funny thing is that I was having more fun playing with either non-player corps or small corps that can't compete against large corps in PC, and hardly anyone was using the TAR. Once again, the gun game felt balanced. I was getting one shotted from multiple angles, and actually had a chance. So don't fret OP, I feel your pain. I just hope CCP realizes how much damage the TAR is doing to this game and making new player's leave. Pretty soon all that's going to be left are corps from PC playing their game TAC 514. It needs a nerf, pronto. I actually read that post of your about the game becoming like halo and I have to agree with you on it. But I don't want to attack the CCP because I think they are trying their best but I'm pretty sure this company is brand new to fps so it will take them time to understand lol. But I hope it get nerfed soon.
By all means, I'm not attacking CCP, and I love this game because it (was) so different then your average FPS(Halo, COD, BF). I was just trying to let them know that the game is unbalanced right now with that weapon and something needs to be done quick before New players start leaving in droves. Everytime I'm put up against one of these corps, the game is over with a loss and potential bad KDR, before it even started.
So, I say to the new players that are reading this, go into instant battle skirmish, since PC and FW only have that game mode. They are either playing one of the ambush modes or domination. You will see less TAC users and have a fighting chance. It feels balanced when your not playing against a whole team of TAC users.
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SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:50:00 -
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Pyro Danielson wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. Be careful what you say about the TAR around these forums. You will get shunned by glorified users of that gun. I wrote a whole essay as to why it needs to be nerfed and got called an idiot for it. Basically I said this game is turning into Halo (Battle Rifle/DMR) with only one weapon in mind. I tried explaining that there are whole corps pubstomping New players in instant battle to feel elitist with that easy mode gun. OP, I have been here since the the start of the open beta, have over 5mil SP, and it was never like this before the uprising build. Players where actually using all types of weapons and all the TAR needed was a slight buff, not this mega-op-buff we have now. Top corps abuse this broken gun and they know it. Mostly if not all the players are using that one weapon, something is wrong. I found that if I select instant battle (skirmish) you will find that none of these big corps are playing that game mode because that's all there is in Planetary Conquest. They are mostly playing the ambush game modes. Funny thing is that I was having more fun playing with either non-player corps or small corps that can't compete against large corps in PC, and hardly anyone was using the TAR. Once again, the gun game felt balanced. I was getting one shotted from multiple angles, and actually had a chance. So don't fret OP, I feel your pain. I just hope CCP realizes how much damage the TAR is doing to this game and making new player's leave. Pretty soon all that's going to be left are corps from PC playing their game TAC 514. It needs a nerf, pronto. I actually read that post of your about the game becoming like halo and I have to agree with you on it. But I don't want to attack the CCP because I think they are trying their best but I'm pretty sure this company is brand new to fps so it will take them time to understand lol. But I hope it get nerfed soon. By all means, I'm not attacking CCP, and I love this game because it (was) so different then your average FPS(Halo, COD, BF). I was just trying to let them know that the game is unbalanced right now with that weapon and something needs to be done quick before New players start leaving in droves. Everytime I'm put up against one of these corps, the game is over with a loss and potential bad KDR, before it even started. So, I say to the new players that are reading this, go into instant battle skirmish, since PC and FW only have that game mode. They are either playing one of the ambush modes or domination. You will see less TAC users and have a fighting chance. It feels balanced when your not playing against a whole team of TAC users. Ok I understand now. TAR makes the game like I said earlier unenjoyable.
There's times I feel like throwing my controller through the screen.
Picture this: I'm having a 1v1 with a TAC user while I'm using my scrambler rifle. We are shooting each other but somehow his TAC is causing more DPS then then my SCR causing me to seek cover. O.K. let's try this again. Nope my shields are being brought down with 2-3 hits while my SCR s taking 5-7 hits to take his shield down and that's with damage mods. I thought SCR easily destroys shields? Oh-oh, here comes 3 of his boys with the same gun coming to flank me and my squad. Let me try to at least take this one guy out before I get kil...I just got 3 shotted by all of them in a matter of half a second, along with the squad I was with. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:12:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:The tar is pretty aweful in close range engagements.
Thats why most Tar users try to outrange people. Or use a SMG for close in fire.
If your in a heavy suit, out in the open and run towards someone with a tar YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. Infact you shouln't expect to live. I would argue that any heavy one v one verses any other suit in the open should lose.
This is not rocket science.
Seems like everyone in this game wants thier pet fitting to Masta cheef everything and cry nerf when they die in rediculious circumstances.
Ive seen some really dumb heavies running about in the open expecting thier suit to somehow make them immune from bullets. A heavy is for objective protection the extra hitpoints is allow you to survive against multiple opponents not give you carte blache to run about the map like a mech. If you do that, you will also die.
When the TAR gets nerfed you'll all just complain about another gun you die a lot from. Probably the Duvalle assault rifle.
Its pointless. Just suck it up.
This post is not about heavy's and their HMG(which was recently buffed). They are fine now for their intended role. It's about the TAC being able to kill faster then any weapon in the game sans the Sniper rifle, plama cannon or forge gun. Two of those is meant for vehicles. Read my last post for a better example as to why it needs a nerf.
Also the duvolle AR is actually on par with the cradium(forgot name) Assault scrambler rifle, so no complaints there. |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:18:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:iceyburnz wrote:The tar is pretty aweful in close range engagements.
Thats why most Tar users try to outrange people. Or use a SMG for close in fire.
If your in a heavy suit, out in the open and run towards someone with a tar YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. Infact you shouln't expect to live. I would argue that any heavy one v one verses any other suit in the open should lose.
This is not rocket science.
Seems like everyone in this game wants thier pet fitting to Masta cheef everything and cry nerf when they die in rediculious circumstances.
Ive seen some really dumb heavies running about in the open expecting thier suit to somehow make them immune from bullets. A heavy is for objective protection the extra hitpoints is allow you to survive against multiple opponents not give you carte blache to run about the map like a mech. If you do that, you will also die.
When the TAR gets nerfed you'll all just complain about another gun you die a lot from. Probably the Duvalle assault rifle.
Its pointless. Just suck it up. This post is not about heavy's and their HMG(which was recently buffed). They are fine now for their intended role. It's about the TAC being able to kill faster at any range then any weapon in the game sans the Sniper rifle, plama cannon or forge gun. Two of those is meant for vehicles. Read my last post for a better example as to why it needs a nerf. Also the duvolle AR is actually on par with the cradium(forgot name) Assault scrambler rifle, so no complaints there.
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SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.24 20:23:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:The problem is the amount of tank a medium suit can fit. Not the power of the weapon that it carries. If they reduced the shields and armor of a few of the proto medium suits then their weapons wouldn't be so OP in a head on gunbattle. If you get picked off from the side though and are not firing at your attacker then it doesn't matter what weapon they are using.
Point taken, but if I'm getting shot by TAC AR all at the same time and can't even step out of cover, I'm dead before I can even react. Too many times I've been in a situation where I'm 1v1ing a TAC user just trying to down his shield( because my scrambler rifle has **** range) and his squad mates(also with tacs) begin to rush my position and I can't relocate because I'll be dead before i take 3 steps, so I have to stay in cover knowing there's a swarm of TAC users coming for me, also his squad mates knowing I'm having problems with their lonely squad mate, and can't do anything about it. I have aways been able to get out of near impossible situations with my team in other FPS. In dust It's blatantly impossible. |
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