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Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:11:00 -
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I don't usually complain on game forums about stuff being overpowered or underpowered but. The AR's need a nerf they chew through my heavy before I can even get half their shields down. It makes the game unenjoyable and might actually stop playing because of it. I just want to be able to go toe to toe with these guys I don't even stand a chance. |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:16:00 -
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Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:21:00 -
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DigiOps wrote:How close were they and what dropsuit where they using? Granted, it already sounds like a Caldari.
Usually, engaging heavies at range is the only safe way to do it. I've killed my fair share, but I'm not going anywhere near them unless their back is turned and I have my knives on me.
It is usually Caldari but sometimes they are wearing logi suits but I never see them heal or anything. Not sure why that is. Usually looks Amarr when they are in the logi suite, but not sure if Amarr make a logi lol. |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:23:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:I'm a Scout with 160hp shield.. and you can't even get half my of shields down, because i use an AR ? ... maybe you should get better ? yes ? Scouts are usually not problem my HMG tears them up, but they can circle and jump faster than I can turn but thats one of the downfalls to a heavy. |
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:34:00 -
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stormtroopin wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. Thanks for clarifying that you meant Tactical version, lol cuz I was about to go aggro. The regular AR's are fine. The tactical Duvolle definitely needs either hipfire dispersion or damage nerfed. it sounds like you are getting out-ranged for the most part. friday nights are pretty active corp wise and i don't think we've squadded up yet. i'll roll w ya if you get on this evening and show you how to counter it. Thank you I do get out ranged quite a bit. I don't think we have squaded up either . |
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:37:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Looks like somebody forgot their logibro today Though if you're talking about TARs then I agree. It's all ARs, they out DPS every weapon in the game. This is intentional for some reason because everything else keeps getting nerfed. What got nerfed while the ARs didn't? Only thing I can think of is laser rifles which did need to happen but was over-corrected. Also ARs did get nerfed at the same time with range. I've tried all ARs and gone up against all ARs, the only one that needs fixing is the TAR. Did you ever perhaps think that since ARs are the general go-to weapon that there are simply more players who spec'd into them (and would of regardless of how powerful they are). More players using a weapon means more chance of a good player using a weapon. Don't call for a nerf because the player is good. I know that Heavy Machine Guns got nerfed on damage and range. I can't think of any others off the top of my head. |
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:41:00 -
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Sorry its another one of these posts I know there are a lot of them but I was kinda mad about it. But it seems to be a hot topic on the forums to me lol |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:53:00 -
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I love the heavy my kd ratio is 2.4 last time I looked ( is probably lower now had a couple really bad games). I dont think they need to buff the heavy any (little more range would be nice but thats bias lol). I try to roll with the squad or defend an area as much as possible. BTW I'm really liking the corps |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 14:57:00 -
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EVERYTHING else is ****? lol.. dude common sense should tell you that you just suck with everything else if other people can kill things just fine with snipers/FG's/MD's/SCR's/flaylocks/etc..[/quote] Yeah, attack a person's skills and avoid the facts. I'd throw out some numbers, but you'd probably try to get me burned at the stake for being a warlock. [/quote] I have to agree with stormtroopin sorry. The rest of the guns seem to be pretty equal. |
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:01:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. Be careful what you say about the TAR around these forums. You will get shunned by glorified users of that gun. I wrote a whole essay as to why it needs to be nerfed and got called an idiot for it. Basically I said this game is turning into Halo (Battle Rifle/DMR) with only one weapon in mind. I tried explaining that there are whole corps pubstomping New players in instant battle to feel elitist with that easy mode gun. OP, I have been here since the the start of the open beta, have over 5mil SP, and it was never like this before the uprising build. Players where actually using all types of weapons and all the TAR needed was a slight buff, not this mega-op-buff we have now. Top corps abuse this broken gun and they know it. Mostly if not all the players are using that one weapon, something is wrong. I found that if I select instant battle (skirmish) you will find that none of these big corps are playing that game mode because that's all there is in Planetary Conquest. They are mostly playing the ambush game modes. Funny thing is that I was having more fun playing with either non-player corps or small corps that can't compete against large corps in PC, and hardly anyone was using the TAR. Once again, the gun game felt balanced. I was getting one shotted from multiple angles, and actually had a chance. So don't fret OP, I feel your pain. I just hope CCP realizes how much damage the TAR is doing to this game and making new player's leave. Pretty soon all that's going to be left are corps from PC playing their game TAC 514. It needs a nerf, pronto. I actually read that post of your about the game becoming like halo and I have to agree with you on it. But I don't want to attack the CCP because I think they are trying their best but I'm pretty sure this company is brand new to fps so it will take them time to understand lol. But I hope it get nerfed soon. |
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Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:23:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:Mike Poole wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:The most recent weapon to receive a buff was the HMG is I recall correctly. While every weapon got a 10% damage buff (besides the flaylock and plasma cannon for stupid reasons I'm sure), the HMG got another 10% damage buff (so 20% total) and a decrease to dispersion. A near pointless buff since the HMG's wide dispersion and significantly reduced range means that 9/10 times you're dead before anyone is even in your range. Perhaps then you should change your play style so you avoid encounters with enemies over great distances? Avoid large open areas and if you must cross one then either do so in a vehicle or with a squad. Heavies are deadly when used in the right situations. I agree haha but heavies should atleast be able to put support fire down at a range. Because they are super slow and if there is a fight going on a ways away they should be able to assist their team. Atleast shoot as far as the AR's I mean its a HMG, In real life (I know I'm stepping into dangerous territory now) the HMG round shot further and is still accurate even on miniguns. |
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:31:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:Opps I missed the "T" yeah I'm talking TARs even with a logi they tear through me like I'm nothing. Be careful what you say about the TAR around these forums. You will get shunned by glorified users of that gun. I wrote a whole essay as to why it needs to be nerfed and got called an idiot for it. Basically I said this game is turning into Halo (Battle Rifle/DMR) with only one weapon in mind. I tried explaining that there are whole corps pubstomping New players in instant battle to feel elitist with that easy mode gun. OP, I have been here since the the start of the open beta, have over 5mil SP, and it was never like this before the uprising build. Players where actually using all types of weapons and all the TAR needed was a slight buff, not this mega-op-buff we have now. Top corps abuse this broken gun and they know it. Mostly if not all the players are using that one weapon, something is wrong. I found that if I select instant battle (skirmish) you will find that none of these big corps are playing that game mode because that's all there is in Planetary Conquest. They are mostly playing the ambush game modes. Funny thing is that I was having more fun playing with either non-player corps or small corps that can't compete against large corps in PC, and hardly anyone was using the TAR. Once again, the gun game felt balanced. I was getting one shotted from multiple angles, and actually had a chance. So don't fret OP, I feel your pain. I just hope CCP realizes how much damage the TAR is doing to this game and making new player's leave. Pretty soon all that's going to be left are corps from PC playing their game TAC 514. It needs a nerf, pronto. I actually read that post of your about the game becoming like halo and I have to agree with you on it. But I don't want to attack the CCP because I think they are trying their best but I'm pretty sure this company is brand new to fps so it will take them time to understand lol. But I hope it get nerfed soon. By all means, I'm not attacking CCP, and I love this game because it (was) so different then your average FPS(Halo, COD, BF). I was just trying to let them know that the game is unbalanced right now with that weapon and something needs to be done quick before New players start leaving in droves. Everytime I'm put up against one of these corps, the game is over with a loss and potential bad KDR, before it even started. So, I say to the new players that are reading this, go into instant battle skirmish, since PC and FW only have that game mode. They are either playing one of the ambush modes or domination. You will see less TAC users and have a fighting chance. It feels balanced when your not playing against a whole team of TAC users. Ok I understand now. TAR makes the game like I said earlier unenjoyable. |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:35:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:Delirium Inferno wrote:Looks like somebody forgot their logibro today Though if you're talking about TARs then I agree. It's all ARs, they out DPS every weapon in the game. This is intentional for some reason because everything else keeps getting nerfed. What got nerfed while the ARs didn't? Only thing I can think of is laser rifles which did need to happen but was over-corrected. Also ARs did get nerfed at the same time with range. I've tried all ARs and gone up against all ARs, the only one that needs fixing is the TAR. Did you ever perhaps think that since ARs are the general go-to weapon that there are simply more players who spec'd into them (and would of regardless of how powerful they are). More players using a weapon means more chance of a good player using a weapon. Don't call for a nerf because the player is good. Guns don't kill... Players do. Agreed but the player has a better chance of killing if the gun he's using is strong/op. Thats why we send our troops over with m4s not .22s |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 15:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Pyro Danielson wrote:I don't usually complain on game forums about stuff being overpowered or underpowered but. The AR's need a nerf they chew through my heavy before I can even get half their shields down. It makes the game unenjoyable and might actually stop playing because of it. I just want to be able to go toe to toe with these guys I don't even stand a chance. Here's an idea: How about everyone try and play to the specialization they pick instead of claiming imbalance because it doesn't do better at the assault role than Assault suits. Know what happens to a Proto Assault Suit with a Duvolle Tac AR when it runs around a corner and a Proto Sentinel is standing there with a Boundless HMG? It dies. Hard. But now correct me if I'm wrong isn't the heavy supposed to be a tank(mmorpg terms tank) and be able to get shot more than 3 times and have his/her entire shield gone. I don't try to be an assault but I do try to help my team in battles. |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:03:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple I call lies haha in my heavy suite they 3 shot my shields and I have about 480 give or take 20 |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 16:11:00 -
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iceyburnz wrote:The tar is pretty aweful in close range engagements.
Thats why most Tar users try to outrange people. Or use a SMG for close in fire.
If your in a heavy suit, out in the open and run towards someone with a tar YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. Infact you shouln't expect to live. I would argue that any heavy one v one verses any other suit in the open should lose.
This is not rocket science.
Seems like everyone in this game wants thier pet fitting to Masta cheef everything and cry nerf when they die in rediculious circumstances.
Ive seen some really dumb heavies running about in the open expecting thier suit to somehow make them immune from bullets. A heavy is for objective protection the extra hitpoints is allow you to survive against multiple opponents not give you carte blache to run about the map like a mech. If you do that, you will also die.
When the TAR gets nerfed you'll all just complain about another gun you die a lot from. Probably the Duvalle assault rifle.
Its pointless. Just suck it up. I know my suite won't make me invincible and I don't want it to but if its meant for living a decent amount of time against multiple enemies then I should be able to take more than 6 hits from the TAR. If 4 people with the TAR try to take what me and my squad are protecting close range or long I'm going to die in 6 shots Its to fast for me to even do any damage or help the team. |
Pyro Danielson
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:07:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:Another thread with people complaining about something when nothing is wrong.. You are one of the people using the TAR lol. Of course you wouldn't see anything wrong when you use the weapon you want it to stay the same so you can keep getting easy kills. Well the rest of us just try to live instead of trying to capture points or get kills. Pretty bad when my main goal is just trying to stay alive instead of playing the game. |
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Posted - 2013.05.24 17:10:00 -
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Chinduko wrote:CCP does not care about the heavy suit or the HMG at all. We will eventually have to accept it. They only care about the AR and the medium suits. That's it. The scout and heavy suit along with most other if not all other weapons are unimportant to CCP. As long as the AR and medium suits are the most powerful, they will consider Dust working as expected. Off topic but I recently just got destroyed by your corp. Nothing against 'em but they all used the TAR and it was by far the worst match I have ever played I didn't even want to spawn anymore because wasting suites. |
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