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Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 19	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:22:00 - [1] - Quote Also, could we get a bonus for killing players while they're hacking?
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 112	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:23:00 - [2] - Quote this is not COD
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 445	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:24:00 - [3] - Quote no
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 23	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:24:00 - [4] - Quote A hacking interruption WP is likely on the way, from what CCP has said so far. As for bonus WP for killing a good player, I don't see any real reason for it. The Squad Order bonus fits here in my opinion.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3970	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:26:00 - [5] - Quote I think it would make sense, some players have proven by their killstreaks that they are more of a threat than others. Killing them would be a greater benefit to the team, so higher WP rewards would make sense.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 20	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:42:00 - [6] - Quote EXASTRA INVICTAS wrote: A hacking interruption WP is likely on the way, from what CCP has said so far. As for bonus WP for killing a good player, I don't see any real reason for it. The Squad Order bonus fits here in my opinion. I haven't seen any devs talk about a WP reward for killing someone trying to hack an installation, but they did say we will get points for counter-hacking. Is that what you were referring to? As for my first suggestion, it's just like Kagehoshi said: someone with a 5+ killstreak is probably a considerable threat, so it would make sense to get extra WP for removing them from the field, even if it's only temporary (the squad order bonus doesn't really count, since it applies to every player you kill, even if they aren't a threat).
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 112	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:50:00 - [7] - Quote A player that take advantage of his team, can be in a 5+ killstreak without being a considerable threat, a player that gains a lot of WP per Minute it's a considerable threat.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 20	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:27:00 - [8] - Quote shaman oga wrote: A player that take advantage of his team, can be in a 5+ killstreak without being a considerable threat, a player that gains a lot of WP per Minute it's a considerable threat. You can suggest different criteria if you feel that rewarding players for taking out enemies with high killstreaks is a bad idea (example: +10 WP for killing someone with X amount of points).
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 112	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:35:00 - [9] - Quote This is not totally a bad idea but it should be implemented in a certain manner. Right now i don't have thought any numbers, but only a general picture of how it should work. A bounty system would be also good.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 20	Posted - 2013.05.24 20:53:00 - [10] - Quote shaman oga wrote: This is not totally a bad idea but it should be implemented in a certain manner. Right now i don't have thought any numbers, but only a general picture of how it should work. A bounty system would be also good. Agreed. I wonder if CCP created the Templar Manhunt event to see how a bounty system would work in practice.

ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 224	Posted - 2013.05.24 20:54:00 - [11] - Quote if you get a 5+ killstreak you should be able to calling in a Hunter Killer, UAV, or Lightning Strike Just sayin'
Arx Ardashir Bragian Order Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:07:00 - [12] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: Also, could we get a bonus for killing players while they're hacking? No. Your bonus is that you don't have to counterhack or rehack the objective, and possibly win the game by saving your MCC the damage from the hit. Killing someone who's hacking is just how you win the game. Do you also want points for killing an enemy who is firing? Who was moving towards your team/objectives?
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 20	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:25:00 - [13] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Also, could we get a bonus for killing players while they're hacking? No. Your bonus is that you don't have to counterhack or rehack the objective, and possibly win the game by saving your MCC the damage from the hit. Killing someone who's hacking is just how you win the game. Do you also want points for killing an enemy who is firing? Who was moving towards your team/objectives? Every action that nets you war points can help you win the game, does that mean CCP should remove those rewards?
Arx Ardashir Bragian Order Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:32:00 - [14] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: Every action that nets you war points can help you win the game, does that mean CCP should remove those rewards? Who said anything about removing anything? I was saying that we shouldn't get extra WP for every little action.
shellhead Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 38	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:37:00 - [15] - Quote I'd also like to see a 5 point increase for each consecutive kill/WP achievable action.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 20	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:38:00 - [16] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Every action that nets you war points can help you win the game, does that mean CCP should remove those rewards? Who said anything about removing anything? I was saying that we shouldn't get extra WP for every little action. But if killing someone while they're hacking is how you win the game, as you said, then it's hardly a little action.
Arx Ardashir Bragian Order Amarr Empire 23	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:41:00 - [17] - Quote Canaan Knute wrote: But if killing someone while they're hacking is how you win the game, as you said, then it's hardly a little action. And I already told you what your rewards were for that kill.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 418	Posted - 2013.05.24 21:47:00 - [18] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: Every action that nets you war points can help you win the game, does that mean CCP should remove those rewards? Who said anything about removing anything? I was saying that we shouldn't get extra WP for every little action. But actually you should. I know many may think it is too COD and we don't need to be rewarded for everything, but it actually makes more sense. Everything you do is likely attributing to the team, but only some actions get rewarded? If you give war points for every little action than you open up the game for more playstyles and better teamwork. Should you get extra war points for killing someone on a kill streak? Yes, he is a big threat to your team and needs to be made a higher priority target. Should you get extra war points for killing someone who is currently hacking? Absolutely, they are a higher priority. Should you get war points if you are in the vicinity of a teammate hacking and watching his back? Yup. Destroying equipment? Yup. The problem with this right now is the values for some of our currently rewarded actions are so low that even giving someone 1 point for a particular action may be too much. So unless we want to get into decimals, just scale everything up some (including the requirement for orbital strikes of course). Another problem with this is we'd be seeing a higher frequency of points popping up in the middle of the screen which can be distracting. A simple option to turn this off would work however.
Canaan Knute Conspiratus Immortalis 21	Posted - 2013.05.25 04:18:00 - [19] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: Canaan Knute wrote: But if killing someone while they're hacking is how you win the game, as you said, then it's hardly a little action. And I already told you what your rewards were for that kill. When you kill an enemy, the other team loses one clone. When you repair a teammate's armor, that player doesn't have to wait as long to get back into the fight. When you deploy an uplink, you allow your team to spawn closer to an objective. All of these actions benefit the team, but they also generate war points. According to your logic, the only reward for doing anything on the battlefield should be knowing that it helps your team, which doesn't work in a game where active SP is earned by gaining WP. If there was no active SP, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but that's not the case. I am merely asking for more ways to earn WP, which can be hard for some classes. Take the heavy, for example: we can gain WP by hacking and killing, but that's about it. Unless the enemy team makes itself an easy target, it can be hard to earn a decent amount of WP (not necessarily speaking for all heavies, I'm sure there are a few that don't have much of a problem with this), so I believe we should have more ways to do so. P.S. See Delirium Inferno's post: his views on the matter are similar to mine, only better explained.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance 18	Posted - 2013.05.25 04:40:00 - [20] - Quote No

Draco Cerberus Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 59	Posted - 2013.05.25 05:47:00 - [21] - Quote Not that I'm against getting more wp for killing a hacker but would you like for more wp to be in the system? A lot of squads get 2-3 orbitals per match and the changes you are suggesting would only increase the number of orbitals and sp earned of course as well. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind dropping them on you but...you sure about this? I've also asked for wp for destroying equipment and for counterhacking an objective that has been hacked.
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2013.05.25 06:02:00 - [22] - Quote Draco Cerberus wrote: Not that I'm against getting more wp for killing a hacker but would you like for more wp to be in the system? A lot of squads get 2-3 orbitals per match and the changes you are suggesting would only increase the number of orbitals and sp earned of course as well. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind dropping them on you but...you sure about this? I've also asked for wp for destroying equipment and for counterhacking an objective that has been hacked. CCP could increase the amount of WP needed for an orbital to compensate for the extra ways to earn WP. And I don't know about you, but I could do with earning a bit more SP, as (in my opinion) the current amounts of SP per battle are a little on the low side, at least without boosters.
Draco Cerberus Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 59	Posted - 2013.05.25 14:51:00 - [23] - Quote More sp would be welcome but in the last 3 days (with boosters) I've been averaging 7-10k sp per match. It does seem low considering the isk payouts are relatively low with fewer than 2000 wp. If a person making 1000 wp per match could make 5000sp without a booster I would see sp as about right on payouts for sp in the current way wp are allocated. As it is, to earn 10,000sp atm you need to earn 2000+sp with a booster and without I don't want to guess what it would take. Most of my sp are from triage, it is currently the best way to earn sp.


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