DUST Search - It is time to fix vehicles, you don't know what you are doing

ladwar wrote:

Daedric Lothar wrote:

The thing is that you don't use tanks like they are supposed to be used currently. Tanks are STILL a heavy weapons platform and NOT a moving bunker. a LAV is a Light weapons/transport platform. The HAV is a Heavy Weapons Platform and the drop ship is a mobile spawn point, anti sniper, anti rogue capper and base runner.

Each vehicle fits its role fairly well. The problem is that you are using them wrong.Tankers in my corp can run 40/1. If you can get 40 kills to 1 death, well... you are doing it right. And if you are going 40/1 and complaining. Then you should STFU.

Sorry.

I can go 40/1 as a sniper.. whats your point. I can go 40/1 in a base soma. its not the vehicle, its the other team. when the other team is completely green then you can't go off of that for balance, I bet you no vehicle with a half decent enemy can get more then 20kills without a great deal of skill and luck and a lot help from their teammates which can be overshadowed by the top infantry.

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BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 168	Posted - 2013.05.24 02:33:00 - [1] - Quote Blam! please go read forums even AV guys laught at how easy to kill tanks.
Godin Thekiller Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 105	Posted - 2013.05.24 02:38:00 - [2] - Quote So everyone is just going to ingore my post about how to fix them? That makes me sad. Peace, Godin
Aerion Spiritus The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2013.05.24 02:55:00 - [3] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: So everyone is just going to ingore my post about how to fix them? That makes me sad. Peace, Godin I didn't
137H4RGIC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 67	Posted - 2013.05.24 04:21:00 - [4] - Quote Being an Avid AV player, I can say tanks are fine. LAVs are OP
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 117	Posted - 2013.05.24 04:32:00 - [5] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Being an Avid AV player, I can say tanks are fine. LAVs are OP yeah because you can kill HAVs by simply spamming AV nades from cover (iv been doing that) but you cant kill lav without being run over, go cry somewhere else
CharCharOdell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz 201	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:10:00 - [6] - Quote nerf mlt havs nerf av nades give us adv, proto, and officer havs and dropships give us back our PG skill ALL PROBLEMS SOLVED.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:14:00 - [7] - Quote 137H4RGIC wrote: Being an Avid AV player, I can say tanks are fine. LAVs are OP Shut up loser.
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 112	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:17:00 - [8] - Quote I'll copy and paste my proposal The buff on vehicles HP and the relative skills change was unwanted. The only vehicles that needed a free (little) buff on HP were: derpships, adv-pro LAV and enforcer HAVs. The old skills granted us a 25% bonus Armor/Shield at max lvl. The new skills grant us a 10% on each resistance A/S at max lvl. My suggestion is to invert the two. We should get a 10% resistance bonus for free and the 25% buff on HP through the skills. The PG skill should return. I want to remind that all the handheld weapons got a free 10% damage bonus not long time ago. This changes would stop the free LAV spamming and it would also make upper tier vehicles specialization worth of its name.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 445	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:23:00 - [9] - Quote Vehicles are fine, if a little expensive.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 175	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:36:00 - [10] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Vehicles are fine, if a little expensive. Wrong tanks and dropships need more pg to at least fit a deacent tank. Currently if you wanh a good tank and rep system you have to fit 2 local powergrid expansion units thusly reducing the variety of avalable fits . Even a 10% bonus to pg would be welcome.

Rei Shepard Spectre II 300	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:39:00 - [11] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: Being an Avid AV player, I can say tanks are fine. LAVs are OP Shut up loser. Says someone who needs a tank to kill infantry, LOL
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:42:00 - [12] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: BOZ MR wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: Being an Avid AV player, I can say tanks are fine. LAVs are OP Shut up loser. Says someone who needs a tank to kill infantry, LOL Waiting 4 you in BF3. I ll show you what gungame means if you dare.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 445	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:46:00 - [13] - Quote The thing is that you don't use tanks like they are supposed to be used currently. Tanks are STILL a heavy weapons platform and NOT a moving bunker. a LAV is a Light weapons/transport platform. The HAV is a Heavy Weapons Platform and the drop ship is a mobile spawn point, anti sniper, anti rogue capper and base runner. Each vehicle fits its role fairly well. The problem is that you are using them wrong.Tankers in my corp can run 40/1. If you can get 40 kills to 1 death, well... you are doing it right. And if you are going 40/1 and complaining. Then you should STFU. Sorry.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:51:00 - [14] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: The thing is that you don't use tanks like they are supposed to be used currently. Tanks are STILL a heavy weapons platform and NOT a moving bunker. a LAV is a Light weapons/transport platform. The HAV is a Heavy Weapons Platform and the drop ship is a mobile spawn point, anti sniper, anti rogue capper and base runner. Each vehicle fits its role fairly well. The problem is that you are using them wrong.Tankers in my corp can run 40/1. If you can get 40 kills to 1 death, well... you are doing it right. And if you are going 40/1 and complaining. Then you should STFU. Sorry. How do you know how tanks should be used.? Just answer this
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 175	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:59:00 - [15] - Quote Dude iv been Running heavy since last august and tanking since the start of chromasome so iv seen the changes in vehicles at the moment I can go 20-30/0 because I know how to tank . But if ccp really wants us to be an intrinsic and tacticle battlefield assets that can have a variety of roles I.e. electronic warfair mobile crus and defence platforms then a little exra pg is needed otherwise most tankers will end out redline sniping (not fun for me personally, I like to get right into the thick of it) .
Rei Shepard Spectre II 301	Posted - 2013.05.24 11:59:00 - [16] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: BOZ MR wrote: 137H4RGIC wrote: Being an Avid AV player, I can say tanks are fine. LAVs are OP Shut up loser. Says someone who needs a tank to kill infantry, LOL Waiting 4 you in BF3. I ll show you what gungame means if you dare. Ill wait for you in APB R instead, at least there i need to actually hit my opponents instead of grazing them slightly for them to die, oh and you wont be able to use a tank there. Watch this and lemme know how many times i missed my targets.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 445	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:02:00 - [17] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: [ How do you know how tanks should be used.? Just answer this Well, if you can go 40 and 1. Then I would say you know how they should be used. Doesn't 40 and 1 sound legit? Sounds like a good number. I mean, I wouldn't want to listen to someone's advice if they went 1 and 40. They drive around real fast and never stay still and murder people by staying on the outsides and using their heavy weapons on people and then flee when AV shows up. They don't get in close and they get Piles and piles of kills.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 482	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:04:00 - [18] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: The thing is that you don't use tanks like they are supposed to be used currently. Tanks are STILL a heavy weapons platform and NOT a moving bunker. a LAV is a Light weapons/transport platform. The HAV is a Heavy Weapons Platform and the drop ship is a mobile spawn point, anti sniper, anti rogue capper and base runner. Each vehicle fits its role fairly well. The problem is that you are using them wrong.Tankers in my corp can run 40/1. If you can get 40 kills to 1 death, well... you are doing it right. And if you are going 40/1 and complaining. Then you should STFU. Sorry. I can go 40/1 as a sniper.. whats your point. I can go 40/1 in a base soma. its not the vehicle, its the other team. when the other team is completely green then you can't go off of that for balance, I bet you no vehicle with a half decent enemy can get more then 20kills without a great deal of skill and luck and a lot help from their teammates which can be overshadowed by the top infantry.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 445	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:19:00 - [19] - Quote ladwar wrote: I can go 40/1 as a sniper.. whats your point. I can go 40/1 in a base soma. its not the vehicle, its the other team. when the other team is completely green then you can't go off of that for balance, I bet you no vehicle with a half decent enemy can get more then 20kills without a great deal of skill and luck and a lot help from their teammates which can be overshadowed by the top infantry. Then there you go, you are doing it right. As for corp fights, I don't have much experience with Tankers in corp fights so I have no room to speak about that. However if Tankers are balanced up for Corp fights then they will be extremely OP in PUBS and then you still have problems. How would you balance both.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:22:00 - [20] - Quote ladwar wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: The thing is that you don't use tanks like they are supposed to be used currently. Tanks are STILL a heavy weapons platform and NOT a moving bunker. a LAV is a Light weapons/transport platform. The HAV is a Heavy Weapons Platform and the drop ship is a mobile spawn point, anti sniper, anti rogue capper and base runner. Each vehicle fits its role fairly well. The problem is that you are using them wrong.Tankers in my corp can run 40/1. If you can get 40 kills to 1 death, well... you are doing it right. And if you are going 40/1 and complaining. Then you should STFU. Sorry. I can go 40/1 as a sniper.. whats your point. I can go 40/1 in a base soma. its not the vehicle, its the other team. when the other team is completely green then you can't go off of that for balance, I bet you no vehicle with a half decent enemy can get more then 20kills without a great deal of skill and luck and a lot help from their teammates which can be overshadowed by the top infantry. Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar.

Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 446	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:27:00 - [21] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar. You show me a guy who "can" go consistantly 36/0 with a Nova Knife and I'll tell you Nova Knives are good and Balanced. The idea here is that its possible. With some weapons it just isn't as likely, if its possible then its a good starting point.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:30:00 - [22] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar. You show me a guy who "can" go consistantly 36/0 with a Nova Knife and I'll tell you Nova Knives are good and Balanced. The idea here is that its possible. With some weapons it just isn't as likely, if its possible then its a good starting point. I don't think you run away from a guy who holds militia AR with full health do you? I have to run from a militia swarm
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:35:00 - [23] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar. You show me a guy who "can" go consistantly 36/0 with a Nova Knife and I'll tell you Nova Knives are good and Balanced. The idea here is that its possible. With some weapons it just isn't as likely, if its possible then its a good starting point. Btw I don't comment on tac ar , if you are not AV or Vehicle guy you shouldnt be here since all you say are pointless.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 446	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:35:00 - [24] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: I don't think you run away from a guy who holds militia AR with full health do you? I have to run from a militia swarm And I run away from Militia HAVs and LAVs. Especially when the latter are moving rapidly at me at high speed. Don't compare apples and oranges.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 301	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:36:00 - [25] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar. You show me a guy who "can" go consistantly 36/0 with a Nova Knife and I'll tell you Nova Knives are good and Balanced. The idea here is that its possible. With some weapons it just isn't as likely, if its possible then its a good starting point. I don't think you run away from a guy who holds militia AR with full health do you? I have to run from a militia swarm Maybe your fit needs work...because ive seen tanks take it with a smile. PS: you ignoring my APB R post with a gameplay vid in it now? its F2P so no need for any of us to buy a game to have a face off there.
Sir Meode Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 581	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:42:00 - [26] - Quote Shield Tanks are EZ mode They are just too slow :(
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 174	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:43:00 - [27] - Quote I never understood the "Weapons got a free 10% damage buff" concern. Honestly, EVERYONE had that pre-Uprising; it was a level 1 Skill that gave access to Complex Damage Mods and 2% damage per level; it was a no brainer to max. Hell, I probably maxed that skill before anything else. The only thing that changed now is that Tanks actually have something that can counter it, albeit that it is not completely free. What is a problem is the stupid Module Selection Wheel being too slippery to be able to accurately choose what modules you want to use (I HATE THAT DAMN WHEEL!) and that either Tanks have too little PG or modules use too much. As it stands, you can't put standard HAV modules (Repairer/Plate or Booster/Extender) and still fit Turrets without PG modules. Either increase PG/give a skill to increase or decrease PG cost.
BOZ MR Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 169	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:47:00 - [28] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar. You show me a guy who "can" go consistantly 36/0 with a Nova Knife and I'll tell you Nova Knives are good and Balanced. The idea here is that its possible. With some weapons it just isn't as likely, if its possible then its a good starting point. I don't think you run away from a guy who holds militia AR with full health do you? I have to run from a militia swarm Maybe your fit needs work...because ive seen tanks take it with a smile. PS: you ignoring my APB R post with a gameplay vid in it now? its F2P so no need for any of us to buy a game to have a face off there. Nah, that game seems lame. PS: I know how to fix tanks don't worry about it.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 303	Posted - 2013.05.24 12:50:00 - [29] - Quote BOZ MR wrote: Rei Shepard wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: BOZ MR wrote: Unfortunately people are not intelligent enought to understand it. My friend can go 36/0 with tac ar. You show me a guy who "can" go consistantly 36/0 with a Nova Knife and I'll tell you Nova Knives are good and Balanced. The idea here is that its possible. With some weapons it just isn't as likely, if its possible then its a good starting point. I don't think you run away from a guy who holds militia AR with full health do you? I have to run from a militia swarm Maybe your fit needs work...because ive seen tanks take it with a smile. PS: you ignoring my APB R post with a gameplay vid in it now? its F2P so no need for any of us to buy a game to have a face off there. Nah, that game seems lame. PS: I know how to fix tanks don't worry about it. Yeah i am guessing any game that requires 95% hitrate = lame to the current generation of FPS gamers, why need skill if you can just spray them to death in 2 grazes imrite? Better yet make it 1 graze with a proto turret....
Void Echo Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 121	Posted - 2013.05.25 01:03:00 - [30] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: The thing is that you don't use tanks like they are supposed to be used currently. Tanks are STILL a heavy weapons platform and NOT a moving bunker. a LAV is a Light weapons/transport platform. The HAV is a Heavy Weapons Platform and the drop ship is a mobile spawn point, anti sniper, anti rogue capper and base runner. Each vehicle fits its role fairly well. The problem is that you are using them wrong.Tankers in my corp can run 40/1. If you can get 40 kills to 1 death, well... you are doing it right. And if you are going 40/1 and complaining. Then you should STFU. Sorry. yeah..... no, your not a tank driver so you cant say what tanks are supostu be used for, that's reserved for the actual tank drivers, so stfu



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