DUST Search - Logi support role

TcuBe3 wrote:

I know I am a newb here but m y biggest gripe with the logi suits are the lack of shield and available defense. Mabye it is my team just not defending me or I suck, my average K/D with logi is 0.5 or lower.. This being said, I find myself dying a lot trying to revive dead team mates with the injector which seems to be a crap shoot. 50% is a generous statistic for using it. Regardless, I still find myself running out to help team mates only to be shot in the back as the fight has shifted elsewhere. I am very frustrated with the logi class as there are way to many people just running and gunning. Players typically do not appreciate the uplinks, nannohives, repair tools or injectors that are used rarely. I think the biggest reason that this game has little value on logi class is because of the reward for killing opponents. K/D ratio's are important to players and everyone wants to have the most kills, getting triage and revive points just don't feel as rewarding as putting a red player down in the dirt.


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Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 271	Posted - 2013.05.23 17:12:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone knows about the nanite injector situation. It's completely broken. I don't know anybody that is still using them. This in conjunction with the equipment selection wheel being glitchy has turned me into a full blown assault logi. I've stopped advertising myself as a logi and I used to love that role. The equipment selection wheel and weapon selection wheel are supposed to be fixed, but the nanite injector needs to go back to the way it was in Chromosome. Lots of people throw that around, but this is really a case of fixing something that wasn't broken. It really appears the number one priority here was to avoid screwing up KDR due to revive farmers in pub matches (I could be wrong, but it seems to be a consensus among many players I talk to). With PC clones are more valuable than ever. I'd guess 20% of the clones lost in PC battles are due to the lack of nanite injectors in the field right now and that is VERY conservative in my opinion. If you consider my conservative number this could be costing an attacker or defender who reinforced with a clone pack at least 16 million ISK per battle. I'd be interested in seeing the percentage of players that are strictly shield tanking right now as well. It appears to be rampant. Shield tanking and the problems that heavy players foresaw in Uprising led to many of them specing out of heavy suits thus rendering the repair tool less important. Heavies seem to be making a comeback and we may see more after the optional respec so the repair tool may make a comeback. All in all the logi role isn't what it used to be. Perhaps it is because I'm "failing to adapt" or maybe it's because the logi suits are so attractive to build an assault role around. Either way, it seems like something that needs to be discussed.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 273	Posted - 2013.05.23 20:45:00 - [2] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: A logi is the ammo guy, the alarm clock guy, and the waterboy. He has a gun to protect himself while doing those jobs.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 273	Posted - 2013.05.23 20:45:00 - [3] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: A logi is the ammo guy, the alarm clock guy, and the waterboy. He has a gun to protect himself while doing those jobs. So you didn't read my thread? I'm fully aware of what a logi is. Although I feel like a logi has to be a killer if the team he's playing on is going to be worth a damn. A logi used to be able to truly help in a battle. The tools they used to do so aren't as effective as they were. I don't think that was intentional. I wanted to start a discussion to get feedback from other logis to see if they feel as I do that the role has been diminished.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 276	Posted - 2013.05.24 13:36:00 - [4] - Quote I guess I'm alone in this.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 279	Posted - 2013.05.24 16:20:00 - [5] - Quote Mikey The Bandaid wrote: Good post! I feel your pain. The Nanite injector is ridiculous, however I have noticed that it is a little better then when uprising was first released. It is rather frustrating being the only merc in New Eden carrying an injector, I never get revived and am constantly losing suits. My biggest gripe right now is the amount of time I sped trying to select my equipment from the equipment wheel. I spend so much time trying to select my rep tool that my fellow merc dies or passively heals to full health before I can have my tool in hand. Not to mention all the times I've accidentally shot mercs thinking I have selected my rep tool. I wish this problem was a priority to CCP but it just seems to be constantly neglected. Maybe they will fix it b I shot one of my dude's in the face during a PC battle against Grupo thinking I had my repair tool. A Freedom MD round to the face. He vaporized and he wasn't happy. The heavies getting buffed is a big help to logis. I think more guys will go back to it whenever the respec happens. If we start getting WP for vehicle repair and installations it will help too.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 280	Posted - 2013.05.24 18:58:00 - [6] - Quote Mikey The Bandaid wrote: As for nanohives.... Why aren't they restocked when you visit a supply depot or other nanohives? Remote explosives and proximity mines get restocked from depots and they use an equipment slot just like hives do. I don't get it lol maybe they can impliment that into the game soon. That would be cool for sure
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. League of Infamy 283	Posted - 2013.05.26 02:13:00 - [7] - Quote TcuBe3 wrote: I know I am a newb here but m y biggest gripe with the logi suits are the lack of shield and available defense. Mabye it is my team just not defending me or I suck, my average K/D with logi is 0.5 or lower.. This being said, I find myself dying a lot trying to revive dead team mates with the injector which seems to be a crap shoot. 50% is a generous statistic for using it. Regardless, I still find myself running out to help team mates only to be shot in the back as the fight has shifted elsewhere. I am very frustrated with the logi class as there are way to many people just running and gunning. Players typically do not appreciate the uplinks, nannohives, repair tools or injectors that are used rarely. I think the biggest reason that this game has little value on logi class is because of the reward for killing opponents. K/D ratio's are important to players and everyone wants to have the most kills, getting triage and revive points just don't feel as rewarding as putting a red player down in the dirt. It's a shame that you are getting into the logi role now. It was a lot of fun and felt as though you were vital to your teams success. If I were you I'd respec, stick with the suit but outfit it as though you are assault. Go as far into nanocircuitry as possible for the nanohives and L2 uplinks. Leave it at that as far as equipment goes until they fix it. You'll get better at your gun game while you wait.